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And sometimes the quarterback's play even lessens the impact of them! Hey, there's a novel idea! ;)
So you would like for him to display confidence in the passing offense, when it's currently by far the worst functioning part of the team, and...
What there is seemingly a need to emphasize is how just about any important decision Joe Philbin makes, or the way the team functions in just...
They weren't converted. Those are simply his numbers at that down and distance.
Ryan Tannehill this year on 3rd down and between 8 and 10 yards to go is 4 for 8 (50%) for 34 yards. One of the completions was for 32 yards, so...
Also, if you're looking for a measure of clutch play, WPA is better than 3rd and 4th quarter QB ratings, because it isn't artificially inflated by...
3rd quarter = 97.8 4th quarter = 67.3 His YPA in both quarters is below 6, which is very bad, and his 4th quarter completion percentage is but a...
Peyton Manning looks at that single coverage on Wallace up high and throws it to where he'll be when he makes his break, with the trajectory to...
I don't. That's why I asked, how do we know? In other words, Joe Philbin could've been incorporating a great deal more information into his...
How do we know he didn't miss a hot read?
I view that sequence as the equivalent of trying a suicide squeeze bunt in baseball. You might try it with zero strikes or one strike against the...
The passing offense in my view has become very short field as of late, where very few if any longballs (20+ yards in the air) are attempted or...
I suspect that if he felt he had a quarterback who could've burned a pressure/blitzing defense with the pass, rather than being victimized by it,...
I'm not sure it should be called "scared" to come to the realization, perhaps, that your quarterback probably wasn't going to deal well with a...
If Tannehill's half as dependent on things external to him (receivers, blockers, offensive schemes, coaching decisions, etc.) as these sorts of...
What if Philbin first wanted to play aggressively with the pass, noticed the Packers were calling defenses oriented toward the pass rush, realized...
What's funny about this whole line of reasoning is that a pass play on 3rd and 9 is no more likely to result in a first down than a run play. In...
I'm not sure anything along those lines is going to fix his issues with downfield accuracy, and without that, you'll always have a QB who's...
I'm not aware of any objective measures that suggest he's performing at an above-average level.
Normally I'd want to give someone like him the rest of the current season, but I suspect Joe Philbin may not be able to afford that luxury.
There's no guarantee they wouldn't have gotten the ball back anyway, had Philbin allowed a pass to be called on the 3rd down play. Moroever,...
And amazingly, it took a mediocre and poorly covered punt, a ball that bounced right into the arms of the team that fumbled it, and a cornerback...
But we seem to forget, when evaluating Joe Philbin based on the decisions he makes, that he's playing with a quarterback of that caliber. The...
And surprisingly, that strategy isn't half bad, according to the following:...
However, the defense caused a fumble on that last drive, and but for the random bounces of a football, the Dolphins would've won the game easily...
In 63 of the 93 starts Rodgers has made in the NFL, the Packers have beaten their opposing team by a margin greater than the 3 points they won by...
We actually don't know that. Once again, it's entirely possible that alternative decisions made by the coaches could've had no effect, or...
...the main ones being those that illustrate how we continue to have a QB who has very little chance of competing with the likes of Rodgers on a...
Actually despite giving the ball back to Rodgers, the Dolphins were 86% likely to win after Vernon sacked Rodgers, and a "roll of the dice" (i.e.,...
And it's awfully easy to say that "if we would've done X, then that wouldn't have happened," but there is no evidence of that and there never will...
If we look here: http://live.advancednflstats.com/afa/index.php/home/tools/live-wp-graph/index.php?gameid1=2014101204 ...we see the Dolphins...
The Packers were pretty well in control at 17-10, and then that flipped when the Dolphins went up 24-17. However, from then on out, Aaron...
Sounds familiar. ;)
That play was a prime example of how quarterback play wins games, and we're so used to not having that that we don't even realize we don't have it.
All we need now is for Tannehill to take over and carry the team to a win.
He needs to get out there and pave the way for the guys who have been thrown the ball in space. Put a helmet on somebody and get us some chunk plays.
We need for Pouncey to be the "Evan Mathis" of last year's Eagles team. Get out there on runs and screens and knock some people over.
Sure, but Tannehill's accuracy under pressure wasn't significantly different from the league norm in 2013. His deep (20+ yards in the air)...
When the emphasis is on explaining away one player's deficiencies, then the tendency is to view that player as being impinged upon negatively by...
A home team was at least a 2-point underdog in only 14% of the 512 regular season games played in 2013. 86% of the time, the home team was viewed...
A home team was at least a 2.5-point underdog in only 13% of the 512 regular season games played in 2013. It's not all that common an occurrence....
If you know how Vegas works, then I'm sure you're well aware of why the Packers are essentially nearly a touchdown favorite in Miami, despite that...
...and which would presumably result in a very quick sack, which doesn't comport with the data. Tannehill was sacked in 2.5 seconds or faster on...
Exception to the rule, which is why the Packers are favored by about a touchdown in Miami, when you consider that home field advantage is...
And that is very substantial when you consider that: 1) QBs are responsible for a far greater portion of NFL game play than any other facet of a...
When you're a team trying to turn a corner in a "statement" game against a clearly better team, you need your team leaders to come out and set the...
According to PFF, 5 of Ryan Tannehill's 58 sacks in 2013 occurred prior to 2.5 seconds after the snap, which represented 1.3% of his pass...
Along those lines, Russell Wilson, for example, according to PFF, was pressured on 10% more of his pass dropbacks than Ryan Tannehill in 2013...
A sack doesn't figure into one's QB rating, because a pass wasn't attempted on the play.
According to the only source of that data I'm aware of (PFF), the Dolphins haven't been pressured significantly more frequently, overall, than the...
His percentage of passes thrown at least 20 yards in the air has also decreased, from 11% in 2012 and 2013, to 7% this year. So the "degree of...
The bolded part of the following still holds even when the Henne and Geno numbers are added:
I don't think it would be wildly illogical to believe that Chad Henne, a 2nd-round QB in his sixth year as a starter in the NFL, is roughly as...
The key will be keeping the score close defensively so that the running game can continue to operate, which will in turn keep Tannehill out of...
Henne 2014 80.7 85.4 115.6 Henne 2013 76.5 82.5 93.4 G. Smith 2014 69.3 12 79.4 G. Smith 2013 66.5 38.4 61.1...
Right now the team is 5th best in the league in yards per carry, and 7th best in the league in yards allowed per game on defense. I suspect that...
It's not good at all. It suggests that if you can put the Dolphins in an obvious passing situation, you stand a good chance of being successful...
Of the QBs listed in posts #1 and #6, Tannehill has the following percentile ranks: 2012 Overall QB rating: 2.7 QB rating on 2nd and 11+: 16.6 QB...
The traditional QB rating, not ESPN's version.
Tannehill against Oakland two weeks ago, in 2nd and 11+ and 3rd and 6+ situations combined: 3 for 4 for 41 yards. They essentially kept him out...
Here are those additions: E. Manning 2014 95.6 77.1 49.8 E. Manning 2013 69.4 72.1 57.5 Roethlisberger 2014 100.1...
In the columns below we have selected NFL QBs, their overall QB ratings in the past one to three years, their QB ratings when facing 2nd down and...
I think part of the issue is indicated in how often you see him referred to as "kid" around here. Ryan Tannehill is 26 years old, yet the way he...
The last 100 times this has happened for a quarterback on either team, that quarterback's team won the game 85% of the time:...
I suspect your eyes deceived you on the plays that start at the 2:50 mark in the following clip, when you watched them originally on TV....
How do we know which part of the team is at fault for a sack?
BTW, this was done originally off of memory, but here are the data: http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/splits/_/id/14876/ryan-tannehill Putting Ryan...
I'm about at the point where I think the Dolphins' fortunes ride almost entirely on whether they can keep Ryan Tannehill out of low-percentage...
And that's not that great a thing: http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-play
Again, I don't think that's the problem. It's not a mental block in my opinion; it's an inability to focus on both his reads and the rush at the...
I think what he's incredibly inconsistent with regard to is the awareness of when he needs to use his legs and escape the pocket, and there isn't...
But again this is where you encounter the trade-off between designing your offense around a QB's strengths, and perhaps making your offense less...
The problem with the "throwing outside the pocket" issue is that his performance in that area is barely above average. He might be the fifth-best...
It's entirely possible that over the long haul, he'll be neither good enough from the pocket, nor good enough when he runs around. The statistics...
The running thing is an idea, but as it stands now, the correlation between Tannehill's number of rushing attempts and his QB rating, game-by-game...
Both.
You actually get just a tad more mileage out of adjusted net yards per attempt (ANY/A) differential, which Tannehill did very good with regard to...
The Relationship Between Tannehill's Running & Passing Here are the career data for Ryan Tannehill with regard to running and passing,...
This was the main difference in my view. It looked like he had command of the offense for a change, rather than being commanded by what was going...
Greg Cote: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/greg-cote/article2304413.html
When you look at attempts only, there was little if any correlation in 2013 between Tannehill's number of attempts in a game and his QB rating or...
Here's how it compared to other QB performances so far this year:...
Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick, and Nick Foles, for example, were among the league leaders in sack rate (i.e., they were sacked more often than...
Prior to this game, the Dolphins had surrendered QB pressure on about 28% of their pass dropbacks, which was below the league average and better...
Last year in the NFL the correlation between sack rate (sacks per pass dropback) and QB rating was -0.27. The correlation between sack rate and...
Or perhaps that could be why he's not sacked! :)
You mean with numbers, or without numbers?
Precisely, and you can apologize for the media frenzy toward the players, which was an effect of the non-committal statement about Tannehill,...
Don't forget that there is not only the win, but the nature of the win, as well. This was a very dominant win.
Here's one way of looking at it, from the following page: Correlating Passing Statistics with Wins Since passer rating is just an average of...
Uh, I think if you're gonna bring in Jason Fox for Branden Albert, you ought to bring in Matt Moore for Ryan Tannehill.
Jets and Bills both losing.
I don't know if I'd be targeting Dion Sims on passes in which he's moving. Send him out and tell him to stop and turn around.
Guys don't typically limp do they after knee ligament damage? They seem to walk around fine after it but can't move laterally.
bj. ;)
10.5 yards per pass, and 6.2 yards per carry today. Amazing.
This one's over, y'all.
And on the sideline, Lamar Miller offers Brent Grimes a *******.
That probably would've been the nail in the coffin in this game.
Tannehill throwing laser beams today, folks. :up:
Can you be a little more specific. ;)
The rating could decrease by 50 points and I'd be satisfied.
In essence he said they supported him by keeping him out of third and long situations.
Best half of Tannehill's career by a longshot.
Great play call with the fake set up by Miller's earlier touchdown run. Got the safeties to come up in run support to the left, with Sims on the...
That 10.7 figure is huge. Going to be real tough to beat the Dolphins with that going on.
So do we still want to call what Joe Philbin did "a distraction," or should we perhaps consider it to have been an inspiration?
Excellent. Congrats on your marriage. We've come a long way. :up:
Tell your husband I said he needs to take the credit card away from you. ;)
Team averaging 7.4 yards a carry. Tannehill's QB rating over 130.
Tannehill's YPA today about double of what it usually is.
If Tannehill can get things turned around, we could have a formidable offensive trio of him, Wallace, and Moreno when Moreno comes back.
Set his feet, stepped up, and threw a LASER there.
GREAT pass there.
That was a neat play.
Aponte could very well be the type of executive who knows where her bread is buttered and jumps ship on whoever falls out of favor with that...
I think we're essentially seeing the "rookie QB" play we would've seen year one, had he been introduced to a new offense that year. However, I...
http://www.footballbyfootball.com/column/chill-ryan-tannehill-is-the-starting-qb-for-the-miami-dolphins During the off-season, the Miami...
Those losses were driven by Tannehill's play first and foremost, and there was little the rest of the team could do to surmount how poorly he...
Oh lord. Here we go.
Right, and hopefully Tannehill isn't feeling like his balls have been "squeezed" so much already that he plays tight and looks like garbage.
On the other hand, it also poses the risk that a loss would equal a good deal more of an implosion than it would if we lost to a good team. In my...
Is that based on their subjective grades? I put a whole lot less stock in those than what they do with objective statistics. What they do with...
PFF has a stat that adjusts QB rating for air yards and controls for things QBs aren't responsible for, such as drops, and it increases Ryan...
If I'm mistaken, I apologize.
I don't think anyone's panicking. I think the perspective, rather, is that it sure shouldn't be deemed a foregone conclusion that he'll be a...
They started the season 0-2 in games in which Nick Foles had four or fewer pass attempts (1 in the first game, 4 in the second). They then...
The sample size is too small to make any judgment. We also don't know whether the newness of the offense is responsible for his decline in his...
What if it's an interaction among the newness of the offense, the type of offense it is, and his individual ability? If it is, then I think we...
I have no idea whether it will eventually come or not, but I know there are players at all positions who have the skills to play them, but who for...
Right, but Wilson's trajectory is pointed upward, whereas Tannehill's is heading the other direction as of this year, even though Wilson started...
And I should amend what I said above based on what you said here. He has the diverse set of skills to play the position effectively, but he...
In games 8 through 14 last year, it looked like he'd turned the corner, so it'll be difficult for me at least to perceive that anything is...
Actually what it looks like is something that's explained very simply: a player who used to play a different position, who was moved to this...
The other problem is that on plays where people aren't open right away (in contrast to the ones in the videos in this thread), he doesn't move out...
This is very similar to what Sterling Sharpe found last year. Start at the 2:50 mark here:...
If it isn't the difference between what we're seeing from Tannehill individually and what would be desirable or even acceptable from him, then it...
I'm not, but again, I don't think their performance is the difference between how Ryan Tannehill is playing individually and what would be...
I think there's a difference between being unsatisfied with the play of those parts of the team, and thinking that if you were satisfied with...
You could argue that Philbin could've met with Tannehill in private and put the pressure of losing his starting QB job on him that way, but...
The problem with that line of thinking, though, is that there is no evidence that the line is playing worse than the average line in the NFL, or...
And it's high time for that in my opinion, because we're about at the point where we have to fish or cut bait on Ryan Tannehill. I think if you...
Philbin has given everyone a comfortable diversion from Tannehill. If he hadn't done this, we'd be talking about whether Lazor is a good enough...
Dave Hyde: http://touch.sun-sentinel.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-81503442/
You're not the only one. When you compare "the distraction" we've all been talking about, which again has no negative effect on the team that can...
But rather than talk about that, which can be discussed via measurables and predictive statistics, we'd rather talk about "a distraction" that has...
Here's a question: What do folks think is more distracting to the players? 1) The issue created by Joe Philbin's statement to the media. 2) The...
It's entirely possible that the distraction has no effect on them at all, in terms of the way they're going to play Sunday. Right, but it's not...
There isn't a single person here, including myself, who can measure the effect -- if any -- of this so-called "distraction" on the team, yet it's...
Why would that be the case, when the fans, on whom the team depends for revenue, would conceivably want him to have that sort of role?
Great point, and if the media attention alone is in fact "the distraction," then it's likely there would've been at least some of that no matter...
And that can work, if you have other areas of your team that are very good, such as your running game and defense. San Francisco had both, as did...
His voice seems very chopped. That's always been the case with him, but he seems even more inhibited in that video, as if he's been "castrated."
I would encourage you to look at the career YPAs of QBs in the era since the five-yard chuck rule was implemented (1994) and see if you can detect...
Well the offensive line and the running game have taken a step forward, so that leaves the passing game, of which Ryan Tannehill is the prime...
And YPA differential correlates with wins at 0.77, so imagine how much the defense would have to suppress the opposing QB's performance (and/or...
Philbin's son died in an accidental drowning.
When determining whether the issue is a distraction versus an inspiration for the team as a whole, no, it's not, because it's entirely possible...
I'm sorry if I conveyed that impression, as it certainly wasn't my intent. I'm actually very uncertain about this whole issue. I don't know, for...
The offensive line is surrendering less frequent pressure on Ryan Tannehill than the average NFL line, and in fact there are 19 offensive lines in...
Nor have they labeled what the "distraction" is.
They could just as well be saying the media attention is the distraction, which says nothing about the coach.
I've already made that decision, considering that no player is likely to say how he may really feel about the situation, because to do so may...
Now, what player(s) do you think are going to make a comment that sounds something like, "thank God the coaches have their finger on the pulse of...
What evidence is there that the players on the whole have experienced this as a distraction, rather than perhaps an inspiration?
Not good, because any team at the beginning of the season has a 37.5% chance of making the playoffs. For that figure to plummet to less than 10%...
Folks, the "distraction" for the team is already there. It's called "your QB isn't playing anywhere near well enough for the team to win." The...
I'm not sure why it's so inconceivable that Philbin knew he had a meeting with his coaches the following day to discuss whether Tannehill would...
The odds are obviously well against the team going 1-15 with any QB, because that's simply such a rare event in itself. However, if this team...
For the relationship between coaching and quarterback play to hold water and have some relevance to the current team, it would also have to be...
Like I said, I think people are underestimating just how weak a chance of winning Ryan Tannehill's current QB play is associated with. If he...
Actually he should've recognized where the blitz was coming from, and he should've made Miller, rather than Hartline, his primary target. It was...
One is a function of the other. When defenses don't have to respect the longball, they can cram their personnel into the short area, making that...
Similar to last year, Tannehill is among the league leaders in the number of pass dropbacks. When you consider the percentage of the time he's...
And this is the sort of thing that I think the coaches are seeing, as well, and what is making them consider benching Tannehill.
This is precisely what I think the problem is, and it was abated somewhat by having Tannehill start his career in his college system with his...
What does it say to you that we're unaware of that? Anything?
It's looking to me like Philbin is the big distraction here, that lets us put out of our minds for a moment the fact that the first, first-round...
What tells you that it's more the coach's problems as an educator than it is the quarterback's limitations as a player?
Well, but Marino also has to realize that Philbin isn't working with Marino at QB. I hope Marino isn't so self-centered that he superimposes his...
I can't imagine that if he wants the team to win, Marino can be happy with the play of Ryan Tannehill right now. He might not be happy with...
The relevance of Nick Foles is his quick and highly successful adaptation to a similar offense early in his career, while being coached by the...
It's entirely possible if not probable that Foles's ability downfield opens up those other opportunities for plays. The quarterback's ability and...
Those issues didn't seem to occur for Nick Foles, however.
I don't think what the head coach is doing with Ryan Tannehill at quarterback should ever be compared to what he might do with Dan Marino at...
If you do the math on the relationship between YPA differential and winning, the team stands to win no more than two games as it stands right now,...
Well when the only direction to go is up, what's there to lose?
Tannehill's YPA on passes thrown at least 20 yards in the air is 2.4. The league average in that area right now is somewhere between 12 and 14...
I don't think you can pay Mike Wallace what you're paying him (i.e., the highest salary of any wide receiver in the league) and continue to play a...
When you balance those games with his other performances, however, you come up with someone who's been no better than average throughout his...
Right, but what might not be so obvious is how that compares to the other QBs in the league. We don't have the ability to make precise...
And if it's not better, then you lose nothing. However, you can't stick with a quarterback who's playing this way, because he gives you very,...
The problem with Tannehill is that you just can't win with the type of passing efficiency (YPA) he's exhibiting nowadays. One of the biggest...
That can work some of the time, but it can hardly be a staple of the offense. About the time that gets predictable, you'll have safeties and...
They ignore it because it cuts the field in half. You think Ryan Tannehill is easy to defend now? Wait till you let the defense cover only half...
These data are from PFF, for passes attempted at least 20 yards in the air downfield. 2013: Name Team Att. Comp Drops Yards TDs INTs...
This I think is the key, because if you can't hit on the longball with at least some regularity, defenses shrink down into the short area, which...
Salguero's perspective: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article2198962.html
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MoorMa01/gamelog/2011/
Wow. Huge.
Right, but you also can't design an offense around that QB that's the functional equivalent of a "toddler" when it comes to its competitiveness...
We don't. As usual, we're doing a whole lot of speculating.
Because Foles is better than Tannehill?
How do we know he's capable of anything above the average level, on a sustained basis, in the NFL?
Notice, though, that nobody is selecting Tannehill, whereas if this poll had been done just prior to game one of this season, I suspect that...
But that's my point here. What if "what he doesn't do well" necessitates a change in the offensive structure such that it becomes too...
Except that Lazor apparently had a strong hand in making Nick Foles take off like a rocket in Philadelphia, whereas Tannehill has done nothing...
Where is the evidence of that? All I remember hearing was that in camp Tannehill appeared to be making a stride forward.
Well I think that depends on how you define "the situation." If the situation is that the QB needs to be catered to at the expense of having an...
Deep Passing # Name Team Att. Comp Drops Yards TDs INTs Att. % Acc. % 1 Drew Stanton ARZ 19 7 0 202 2 0 30.6 36.8 2...
I think it's going to be pretty difficult to tell how good a coordinator is when he doesn't have adequate play at the QB position. The problem...
...and in which he had already played in college, with his former head coach coordinating it, rather than stepping into an entirely new system,...
By the way, Texas A&M counted 64 dropped passes by receivers last season, but the Dolphins counted 79, mitigating some concerns about his...
Tannehill came into the league with "training wheels" (his college system and coordinator) and played no better than average for two years. He...
And in the absence of definitive information that can refute that, and given the low success rate of NFL QBs in general, that'll be the most...
That would be the one where there was very good quarterback play.
But his doing it is! :)
He can learn the offense "academically" all day and still not have the physical talent to pull it off on the field. If the "academic" learning of...
Well there sure was one last year, when Ryan Tannehill was struggling in it. Now that we've replaced Sherman with someone supposedly...
Are these guys open and is Tannehill not hitting them? Do we know?
But what if the Mike Sherman offense is simply not viable in today's NFL? Should you then keep part of that offense in place for the comfort of a...
That might be because from the time the Chiefs went up 14-0 in the second quarter, they hovered right around being about 70% likely to win the...
How do we know the issue isn't that Ryan Tannehill has been stretched too far beyond his Texas A&M/Mike Sherman comfort zone?
The "aqua out" with the team wearing all white shows you just how disjointed this franchise really is.
This team's pass offense is REALLY inefficient.
Tannehill's YPA below 6 once again.
No we don't.
Here's where we take a decision Philbin makes just before the half and let it distract us again from the fact that the QB can't run the offense to...
You mean a QB who's made the Pro Bowl twice and won the Super Bowl is better than Ryan Tannehill?
Alex Smith's QB rating: 135.4 Ryan Tannehill's: 79.1
Wasted 20 seconds after the Thomas play.
An "aqua out." What a laugh.
Blame the zero points on that drive on Brandon Gibson.
Ridiculous drop there.
That's definitely a big part of the problem.
The Dolphins have no playmakers on offense.
Tannehill was pressured on 33.6% of his dropbacks, for example, which ranked him 16th in the league (15 QBs were pressured more often). Also, the...
There was some evidence that suggested the pass blocking last year was significantly worse than average, and some that suggested it wasn't.
Certainly this year, but even last year the evidence on that was mixed.
Right, but we have a head coach who may believe he needs better quarterback play this year to save his job.
I think if you did relevant research on the issue, you'd find that the Dolphins' offensive line isn't blocking for the pass any worse than that of...
Precisely. I think if Tannehill had been selected by another team in the first round, we'd be expecting very little from him in his career at...
He doesn't seem to have command of the position overall. The entirety of the position is not second nature to him. Watch Tom Brady in his prime...
And that's precisely what Tannehill doesn't do. He doesn't multi-task and respond to the rush with movement while he also goes through his reads...
I used Manning only as a benchmark to show how quickly some QBs can get rid of the ball, and to further illustrate that having more time to throw...
And opposing defenses will start to defend a smaller and smaller portion of the field, which will eventually make almost nothing work.
...nor did he last year in the final two games of the season, when the team's playoff hopes were riding on it. And in those games, there was no...
Having three seconds to throw in the NFL isn't such a great thing. Peyton Manning throws the ball in less than two seconds on average, and almost...
According to PFF, over the first two games, Tannehill has been pressured on 28.4% of his pass dropbacks, which is 17th in the league among...
And that may be true, and if so, where are we? Do we still need "more weapons"? Is the offensive line still a terrible problem? Is the...
And it likely will, because each dropback is divorced from the surrounding context. Instead of watching the game live, with the importance of...
I think he's probably hearing the same thing from the coaches in the team's film study.
I'm talking about the middle screen in the second half that Manny Lawson tipped. Notice the open field and the blocking out in front. People...
The problem is that those are high-impact plays that are missed, as was the middle screen to Miller that should've been lofted higher....
I think PFF's problem is that they're evaluating plays without assigning them any relative value in terms of their effect on the outcome of the...
Here's your definitive piece of info on the matter: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb ...and here:...
Notice that on every sack in the first half, there was a receiver open in the flat. The first half post pattern to Wallace is a TD if he's led...
I think there's every reason to react as most people are, since it looks like Ryan Tannehill isn't developing in the right direction, and if he...
Or perhaps the defense respected Philbin for a decision that would likely be criticized, for the effort of proctecting them from having to defend...
I think you have to wonder who is going to make plays to move the team down the field. We saw Buffalo, with a mediocre or worse quarterback, make...
Joe Philbin has the best interests of his team to look out for. He can't cater to Ryan Tannehill's confidence at the expense of the team. Ryan...
Over their careers, Tannehill's been sacked on 7.8% of his pass dropbacks, and Henne's been sacked on 7.0% of his.
If Tannehill had the kind of talent everybody wants him to have, he'd be impervious to anybody else's lack of confidence. How would Dan Marino or...
There's a better chance in my opinion that Tannehill's lack of confidence, if it exists, is an extension of his own play.
Tannehill's not in a position to blame him. What, should Tannehill say something like, "well with the way I was playing, I think the coach...
I think it's yet another example of finding a defense against the horrible realization that the first, first-round QB picked by the team since Dan...
We need something to distract us from the disturbing thought that Tannehill is looking like anything but Dan Marino, and this is doing a great job...
Your username is "Tannehill" and you're accusing other people of having an agenda?
It's actually not due "everywhere." The running game and defense were superb in game one. The defense kept the team competitive in game two....
My argument is that Tannehill isn't playing well enough to justify an aggressive approach that relies on the passing game for its effectiveness....
I don't think your namesake is playing well enough to justify any sort of aggressive approach that has the potential to put the team down by three...
Or you went for a haymaker, missed, dropped your guard, and got clocked for the knockout.
There isn't any player with an ounce of competitiveness who's going to say he "agrees" with a decision like that, but then notice Tannehill had...
Right, like the starting quarterback, and rest assured that'll be changed if this continues.
Essentially Philbin is admitting that Tannehill should be even more of a game manager in situations that have the potential to harm the team...
I don't think the team had much firepower the week before, either, other than with Knowshon Moreno. The passing offense has been abysmal to below...
I have yet to see a Joe Philbin-led locker room celebration after a win that featured anything but positives. It's as if winning that week was...
I think what you're arguing is that there is a low base rate of the kinds of events Philbin was trying to avoid (INTs, sacks, fumbles, a string of...
I suspect what's bothering people about this particular issue is that it's an implicit admission by Philbin that, at least in the kind of game...
Like I said, he doesn't have command of the position. It's a difficult position to play, and to be successful at it at the NFL level, you need to...
Well hopefully Marino will realize that the orders were handed down to a QB very much unlike himself.
An athletic version of Chad Henne, whose athleticism is irrelevant because he rarely uses it.
I'm throwing in the towel because the team overall doesn't have the talent to play at a highly competitive level with an average QB, and that's...
He looks just as tentative there as he does on the field.
Good post. I think you can put the entire thing under the umbrella of "command of the position." He doesn't have it.
Sure you are. The "suddenly different circumstances" are such that any Buffalo score is what you're going to go into the half having just...
Since the team neither scored nor turned the ball over, and we can't rewrite history with one of those options or the other, I strongly doubt...
What I mean is that if you turn the ball over there and surrender a score, you put yourself in a position in which you have to pass the ball more...
Down 9-0, instead of potentially 12-0 or 16-0 after a turnover. Do you want the flexibility within your offense to run and pass, down only 9-0,...
No kidding. You go into halftime there, make your adjustments, and come out and get the ball in the second half and hope things start to go...
The difference is that those QBs have qualities they can call on to be competitive in games like the one today.
And even the great quarterbacks have bad games, but they have fewer of them, and they counter them with a greater number of games that are better...
You're probably going to have to quickly come to terms with the fact that most people are aware that this is a quarterback-driven league, this is...
If we calculated that, we'd also have to adjust "average" to account for all the similarly dropped balls for other QBs in the league.
In the second half of last week his QB rating was 86. That's average.
And it didn't. He was average before the game, and he still is, except for that this game was one of his below average ones. He'll counter this...
The "reality" coming into the year was that Tannehill had never demonstrated consistent QB play above the average level. There is no reality to...
Is it gutless not to take every penny you own and plunk it down at the roulette wheel? Why not?
Well if what you would've "known" is a sack fumble followed by a touchdown, be glad Philbin "removed" it.
Not every drive is one just before the half, deep in your own territory, after your quarterback has played poorly.
How about a sack fumble? How does that sit with everyone?
It was completely a statement about the quarterbacking. Do you think Joe Philbin would've endorsed a pack it in approach with Aaron Rodgers at...
Not good folks. There is no prime mover in this offense now.
And the players had done what to that point to inspire such confidence?
I'm not sure Philbin has the confidence in his quarterback not to put the team in a bad situation there. Imagine if the team gets risky and...
I think it's probably time to start wondering if Mike Sherman's system was dumbed down to suit Tannehill's ability.
In today's game that's a bust.
Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
Deep trouble folks. Tannehill doesn't look like an NFL starter. Take care. So long.
Did I say something about a pick?
You can't win consistently in the NFL with average quarterback play. When the other team is playing well, like today, you need GOOD quarterback...
Watch close for the pick here.
The Dolphins are averaging 3.4 yards per pass dropback, including sacks.
And there you have it. In a quarterback-driven league, that's the problem.
I don't think he has the talent to do that.
Nightmare game. Really shows you this team has no chance to make any serious noise in the league.
35 passes, 19 rushes. Can't win that way with an average quarterback.
He's playing about like he did on average last year. What he's going to "bounce back" to I don't know.
Wasn't Charles Clay supposed to be some kind of player this year? Where is he?
Buffalo can move down the field with Watkins. The Dolphins have no such person.
We're up to 4.9 yards per pass. Things are really coming along now.
It sounds like Lazor realized last week he didn't have the talent to run his offense.
Having an average quarterback will do that.
Too easy. 14 points with little or no effort.
They're going to put this game away easily with that kind of running game.
That drive was an awfully good answer to Spiller's return.
Defense needs a takeaway here.
With your username, you probably ought to be.
Another poorly placed ball to Matthews.
Even that throw to Gibson was poor.
I don't think anyone here can safely say they see anything in Tannehill that suggests he's any better this year than he was last year.
We're trying to rest the defense here.
Up to 4.8 yards per pass. Things are looking up.
Great drive, and then two poor throws cost it.
Threw it behind him.
They got Clay covered.
Well, nothing like an absurdly long commercial break to ruin the team's rhythm and momentum.
Because if you get the ball in the second half and go down and score, even a field goal, then you can still run the ball. If you turn the ball...
I don't think you can try to score in that scenario with a QB who's just as likely to throw a pick-six as he is to mount a scoring drive.
He doesn't appear to have the command of the position to play any other way.
4.2 yards per pass.
What else is new.
Not sure that's going to happen without Moreno.
4.9 yards per pass so far. Not going to win like that, folks.
Welcome to 2013.
Jenkins has 7 tackles already.
Not liking the outlook without Moreno. I don't think this offense has a leader without him.
Wow, that's a nightmare.
Trouble.
That looked like ****.
I'd come out here with a play-action to Moreno and a bomb to Wallace.
Take all that "emotion" and shove it up your ***.
Excellent defense by Grimes.
No pressure.
Jenkins looking good.
Need to wear aqua jerseys AND aqua pants at some point, in an important home game.
Knowshon Moreno talking to his voices.
Relax, y'all. We can lose this one and still be in good shape.
This "emotion" thing is going a little overboard. If it's true, Buffalo stands to come out too hyped and play poorly because of it.
Jesus, these are CBS's worst announcers.
Wearing aqua today, folks.
The NFL is protecting its interests, which involve public perception. Child abuse is in the public interest, and the NFL depends on the public...
Well, it really doesn't matter what anybody "means" to do. If you abuse your child, you have to suffer the consequences. If he truly didn't mean...
Exactly. And when a family friend comes over and playfully says, "hey little buddy -- how are you doing?," you don't get a peep then, either.
I'm not sure we should mind our own business. It's in the public interest to make sure children aren't being abused, is it not?
With due respect to you, I don't think anyone really knows how they would've turned out had the circumstances of their upbringing been different....
You don't seem to realize that being employed doesn't entitle you to a "trial" before your employer can take action with regard to you. Employers...
That certainly isn't a problem.
I think we all know he certainly can play better, on occasion. The question is whether his normal level of play (what can be expected of him on...
Go look up the concept of parens patriae.
His employer could still believe there is sufficient evidence of his guilt to warrant his suspension. It doesn't have to rest on what the legal...
Your employer has the right to suspend you on the basis of whatever evidence it deems sufficient for the suspension, based on its own policies and...
I think Buffalo is going to have a let-down after winning on the road as an underdog, and then being a favorite in their home opener.
Last year the team rushed for over 100 yards in a game eight times, and in those games Tannehill's average YPA was 6.9. A YPA of 7 or more is...
The absence of a relationship between the running game and Tannehill's performance goes well beyond just one game.
His career QB rating is 79.2, and his QB rating last Sunday was 79.9. His QB rating in 2013 was 81.7, which isn't appreciably higher. In other...
Didn't all this happen last Sunday? Then why the sub-80 QB rating and sub-6 YPA?
There's been no relationship to date between the Dolphins' running game and Tannehill's performance. In other words, when the running game has...
If Moreno keeps doing what he's doing, teams will start stacking eight in the box, and Tannehill and company will have to make them pay. The...
Against four-man fronts, I would have to think Clay would be far more active. Remember that Belichick's gameplan last year was to remove Clay,...
Well, if people don't defend those actions, then they have to come to terms with the fact that their own childhood sucked and was probably filled...
I thought the key to that game was indeed the team's commitment to the run, even down 20-10, and Knowshon Moreno's response, as opposed to...
I think Joe Philbin probably feels a great deal more comfortable knowing that he has a General Manager who's been hired to help him assemble the...
Knowshon Moreno deserved the badge on offense the other day.
Wallace is the highest-paid wide receiver in the league. If that's the kind of game he's going to play to earn his money, we're in trouble.
I think the issue here is that on a day when the franchise appeared to take a significant step forward, Tannehill did not. The team overall...
I'm not sure that's going to work, because the minute you make him make downfield reads, his attention will be similarly allocated too heavily...
The difference with Wilson is that in the games in which he played very well, he played much better than Tannehill did when he played well, and...
In the first half he was 10 for 15 for 75 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT, for a 72.9 QB rating, and in the second half he was 8 for 17 for 103 yards...
The good news is that the Dolphins appear to have compiled an offensive line that will do a much better job of hiding Ryan Tannehill's deficiency...