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Stevie Threet who is not a bad prospect in his own right. Got a lot of talent, but it will be interesting to see how a team build for the power...

there's actually still a lot of us at Finheaven, just nothing really to talk about right now. I've noticed it a bit here too.

not even gonna blame UNC since they were so loaded at guard that they didn't need him (bringing in Lawson and Ellington, already having...

I just had this debate with my buddy (who is gonna try to walk on at either Pitt,South Florida, or Miami for BBall) he doesn't think so, but IMO...

all the big time schools are kicking themselves for not offering Stephen Curry

Sage leading us from I believe 21 points down to beat the Bills.

they asked for the summary so I gave it. I don't even hate you, I just know when you post, you cause controversy

I know you're reading the the thread over there, he practically orgasmed after AJ made his post

not really flipping out. Basically here's what's gone down... Shouright demands to know what's going on or he'll cancel his membership a bunch...

well, ck is having fun over in VIP lol

I know what you'r talking about. My buddy Steve and I use to run a very big wrestling site (Steve's World of Wrestling) At one point it was the...

after posting that, I offered him and Matt help in getting the site back on track and I think I got spurned.

I doubt it dude. Most of us VIPers are just trying to get fact straight right now, and only a couple guys who aren't VIPers really know what's...

oh and MelbournePhin is pretty much ticked at all parties involved. AJ has given his side of the story, and what is goals are to rebuild...

yeah a lot of us (myself included) did not know exactly what happened. Sa whte thread saying Celt and Muck were leaving as was FFIC, said good...

since I'm not going to a D-1 College, not at all. I could probably get into a smaller league in Europe (If I'm lucky) and make similar money to...

thing is if I go to Castleton, they play in a tourny in England each year (provided the money is raised). Even though it's D-3, there are enough...

My name is Brett, I am going to play college soccer at either Lock Haven (PA) or Castleton State (Vermont) I am a senior at the same high school...

could happen. Just don't leave Abrams open for 3s.

rounds 3,6, and 7 are probably wishfull thinking. 4 might be as well since I'm not sure where Langford is projected to go. Nicks might not fall...

we killed the forum:(

OT; KB how are you enjoying your arguments over Beck with Deets on footballsfuture?

Carmichael really isn't connected to Tuna though. He was with the Chargers, then took a promotion to go coach with Payton. That's his only...

no kidding you were basically ranting about Palmer in the VIP seciton.:lol:

KB had we not gotten Carmichael would you have been content with the rumor of Dan Hennig being a mentor for Karl Dorrell; also what do you think...

there are some small school QBs that I'd look at besides Flacco, Josh Johnson of San Diego and Ricky Santos of New Hampshire. 2 other late...

(partially joking) this is the first time in awhile I've seen you somewhat positive KB.:lol:

love when people do those, but I'm not a fan of Jay Lehman n the 2nd (and I like Lehman). Also, as much as I love and want Fred Davis on the team,...

if we were gonna get 2 DTs I'd like to see the 2nd be either Pat Simms,Dre Moore,Frank Okam, or Red Bryant personally.

not a horrible mock, but I really don't want to go QB early. I also think that despite me really wanting Davis, there are better players on the...

ain't no party like a celtkin party

but a lot of experts have said that a lot of top flight canidates don't like the prospects of Baltimore because Rey Lewis and Ed Reed have all the...

Michael Oher declaring could be very interesting. If he has great workouts and the scouts think he can play LT, he could join Dorsey and Long as...

meh. Actually happens a lot more than you'd think, and it's far from the worst thing a college coach could do) Also like to point out that I...

no watch the offense really regress. Norm Chow is a genius and will definatly land on his feet

couple points Julius Jones hates Parcells and talked so much trash towards him after he left. he would not be welcomed here Justin Fargas...

many scouts believe that they probably would have surpassed Little Animal by draft day. This move could really bite the future wrestler in the ***.

what smokescreen? Hiring Terry Shea (the man who was training Brady Quinn leading to the draft) to be our QB coach and then drafting Ginn? Cause...

Marques Colston

agreed. He had a very subpar year (first year the offense was more about White than about him) and with the emergence of...

or they've just got a lot of talent. They've got 3 pro bowlers on their OL (McNeil and Hardwick last year, Dielman this year), a dominant RB with...

Justin King is an interesting choice. Very good prospect that battled injuries all season. Got abused by James Hardy, but is still a very good...

San Diego is a much better team than they were at the start of the season thanks to the emergence of several players (Sproles,...

Clady or Williams you might have to make an exception for though. If the Seahawks don't take Davis he'll fall fairly or unfairly.

Slaton declares. Probably not a good move since he really struggled this year, and as fallen from the number 2 jr RB(behind DMC) but has fallen...

I think a lot of people felt we could use upgrades over Shelton and Lewinski even when the o-ine was playing well. But I do agree with you that...

here's the biggest difference I see in the players. Glaus is more or less liked by teammates, Rolen tends to wear on people after awhile...

that's a little bit of an overreaction. Tice did get to the playoffs and had Minny a respectable team

the only thing worrisome about Florence is his tendency to get stupid personal fouls. Not for late hits or face masks, but just stupid things....

his name was on a list for getting online prescriptions his final year in Anaheim (where he was injured off and on all season)

if he declared he was the number 1 CB in the draft

I think it's very obvious that a team with a good RB/good WRs can beat the Pats

yep. Basically Tice became an interm coach, did a decent job, and became full time HC, but never had the full support of the FO. In short, he...

love how Seth Meir is put into a sleeper hold and no flag is thrown

the difference is also that the Jags have only 2 big time playmakers on offense; Maurice Jones-Drew and Fred Taylor. Gerrard is good, but Del Rio...

really, aside from a couple missed tackles, the Jags defense is doing pretty good. Also moving the ball very well, and exposing the Pats LBs with...

so as of right now Run DMC has not declared yet, but I expect him to. However, some of the names on the list are probably coming off at the deadline.

Hawks maybe, but a lot of people think they've got their eyes on Jonathan Stewart as Alexander's replacement. Packers, highly doubt it.

Jenkins? won't hurt him. Unless he blows out his ACL he should be the top CB taken next year and there really isn't anybody who could challenge...

there are some very good TE prospects. Martellus Bennett out of A&M is probably the most intriguing prospect because of his size,speed, and...

although I'm not to thrilled with the prospects of Tice being the HC, he did get a bit of a bad rap in Minny.Yes his teams would start hot and...

Chilo Rachal of USC declared. He's a very good prospect

Malcolm Jenkins is staying at Ohio State. Apparantly Little Animal and Freeman(who I have as declared) are torn on what to do as is Alex Boone.

I would not be surprised if the Titans let him walk. Gret player, ut after the stomping incident it became clear they wanted nothing to do with him

WalterFootball has a very good first 3 rounds for Miami; Glenn Dorsey DT LSU Leodis McKelvin CB, Troy DJ Hall WR, Alabama Anthony Collins...

another update. Terrence Taylor (DT Michigan) will decide after he gets his grades on Monday Michael Oher (OT/OG Ole Miss) will probably...

I'm not a Heat fan, but Mayo would be HORRIBLE for the Heat (he's a chucker). As I said on the regular board, the Heat's problem is not only...

well when USC is consistently playing in the Rose Bowl, and LSU has played in the NO for a bowl game 3 times in the past 5 years so there is a...

or just read some of the overreactions on finheaven:thumbup:

be glad you haven't. And they actually made a sequal to it which was worse. I'm not even kidding, rent The New World, ten minutes into the...

case in point look how the team played when Haynesworth was out. They went from very good to very average.

people got to stop hating on Worrell. When we brought him in, he was supposed be a ST ace only; no one ever expected him to see any time on defense.

ck I always appreciate your posts, and this was very insightfull, but I dunno if I agree with what you wrote. I'm not saying you are a Parcells...

Fitz will more than likely never hit the market same with Boldin. HOWEVER, that leaves guys like free for the picking (Wilson would probably be...

they'll give him complete control. Wayne was not about to give Carrol that after the way Saban treated everybody (though to be fair, Carrol has...

also said if he had to redo the block on Johnson, he would've still done it cause he was trying to help Teddy

this is probably one of, if not the, deepest RB classes I've ever seen

RichRod just confrimed that Mallett is transferring and Arrington/Manningham are leaving.... Terrelle Pryor come on down. I'll drive down to...

Rich Rodriguez has confirmed that Mario Manningham and Adrian Arrington will both leave for the NFL

they compete with Michigan for Ohio kids, but Michigan mostly recruits the Northern Ohio kids ( a lot of guys from Warren have been on the team)....

I was just saying assume. To get Perry out of the state of Michigan, you'll have to do a huge sell. The only other school I see him going to is USC.

should be a better year. I think most Big 10 fans would agree that the Illini were not ready for the Rose Bowl; especially against that USC team....

I dunno about a fair shake. Honestly rebuilding or not (and I've stated my stance on how Cam and Randy approached this "rebuilding" many times)...

when he commited my personal opinion was that he did not want to commit because he wasn't sure what he wanted to do. That's coming from a Michigan...

JoePa is just lucky that LJ Sr. owns Maryland (seriously, look how many players they got from there). If you look at PSU's classes, they'll get...

he would not get past St. Louis(who needs DT help since they want Carriker at DE and Glover has been horrible)

oh I said please cause I thought I might've come off looking like an *** with my posts n this thread

You ever see The New World? Never thought a movie with Colin Ferrell, Christian Bale, and Christopher Plummer could be so bad.

I was shocked, and kind of pissed. Where was that offense (or that agressive defense) all year?

expect a lot more Juniors to declare, more than normal. I must say, there's gonna be a lot of talent that falls that shouldn't. A lot of...

up there with USC's class really just depends on your personal taste. If Pryor comes, awesome, if not... sucks to lose out on him and lose...

I amde the thread before the draft board was made. Since you're a mod can't you do a quick switcheroo? (Please?)

I thought we couldn't either, just turns out we can't defend actual speed QBs. I think OSU could easily defend the spread as well, it's not as...

In the Big 10's defense, guys like JoePa and Carr have been using outdated techniques on and off the field. Both teams have great talent that can...

don't worry about recruiting. Ohio State will always get the top notch players in Ohio, and have a very good recruiting class coming in (although...

no big recruiting news right now, but a couple top QBs not named Pryor (Marquis Gray and Star Jackson) will be making visits to Ann Arbor. A few...

yeah just got the first name mixed up

rivals has better rankings, but you have to pay to use the message boards. scout isn't too bad and some of the team boards are better than on rival

for you guys saying Dorsey was just ok... what game were you watching? I saw him constantly pushing his guy back and slowing Wells down. I saw...

thread already created in College board mate.

whoever just pimped Little Animal; he might have had 18 tackles but they were the quietest 18 tackles someone would ever make. He's a good player,...

Michigan, LSU, and Ohio State could all suffer. Michigan-Terrence Taylor and Adrian Arrington are leaning towards the NFL. Despite Manningham...

here's my opinion on most Big 10 teams and why they struggle. OSU always brings in top recruits but most of them are linemen, and a lot of...

to be fair to hom though, A&M is pretty much an option team anyways that doesn't look to the TEs

another update. Nothing official yet, but the following are also reportdedly going to declare in the up coming days Jerrod Mayo LB,...

DC's have definatly figured out how to defend him a lot quicker than they did Vick

giving your record setting MVP only 9 touches in the second half will do that to ya. As for this game; Vince Young is learning the hard way...

another update

not entirely true, if we draft someone people didn't expect they complain about the pick, and if our draft picks don't play right away they're busts

some SD fans are saying that Cam lost a lot of fans in the locker room with how he called the Pats game in the playoffs last year.

well this is a very good year for recieving TEs. Bennett,Davis,Rucker, and Carlson will get most of the love but you've also got Keller,Tamme, K...

let's not forget him mocking Jay Cutler after Denver missed a 4th down. Which was stupid since Cutler has so much more resonsibilities than Rivers...

no chance of them becoming good CBs in other schemes?

see I thought most of the players (sans J Allen and Manny Wright) responded well to Saban. Last year, we just had lackluster QB play (though to be...

west was very bad this year (though Denver looked pretty good once they started using Marshall and Scheffler, but they've got no D). And...

I just forgot to mention Ronnie. As for Crowder, they asked on of the announcers (I belive Mad Dog) and he kind of paused and said "sure keep Crowder"

I remember during the last game of the season, the radio announcers said they only expect a handful should be back. They said the only guys who...

I think Tennessee could be interestingas well because they have a dominant D-Line, and the best running game in the league this year...

no since most people think Parcells has us going in the right direction, and no matter what, Miami will always be an attractive place for Players...

Cason might fall farther than he should if Jenkins and Talib declare as they are rumored to do, and he runs a 4.5 40 like many predict him to....

I never said I would. I was talking about getting conditional picks for Roth. I never even mentioned Adams in my post

not entirely. Our vets just didn't like Cam simple as that. They should've handled it better, but they didn't. If Rey-Rey or Reed don't like...

he's an older coach whose also been in the NFL, sometimes a big time job is not attractive to some people.

aside from Cherilus (who has really struggled at LT this year for BC) it's not a bad draft. If you want to go OT in round 2, look for someone like...

oh there are more no trade clauses, they are all just in baseball. Kobe Bryant is the only non baseball player with a no-trade clause, and they...

we could get a conditional pick for him. I'm almost positive Smith played as a 3-4 DE at some point in his career, but I might be wrong. I also...

just a question cnc, why do you seem so venomous? Tired of talking about Cam, or just think undermining him was bush league? I did not like Cam...

no way Williams gets tagged. They'd have to pay him as a top 5 DT, and they've already got big money invested in Pickett and Harrell

Mort also said a lot of canidates don't like the Raven's offer because they feel Rey Lewis and Ed Reed have too much control within the organization.

pretty much the only players outside Hawaii he gets are guys no one else wants for the wrong reasons (Brennen,Bess)

cause he was our QB coach, and now he's Dallas's OC (of course he's got a lot of weapons). Fact is he is NOT ready to be a HC yet, he's only been...

hell I'll take it, we're putting together a FO that had Quincy Carter and Troy Hambrick as starters with little to no talent anywhere on the...

Pitt needs to get some o-linemen. Feneca is a FA, everybody else on the team is easily replaceable. (good run blocking team, but horrible pass...

which is another reason Cam got fired since we should have lost to Baltimore.

yeah he is. Polamalu has been in and out of the lineup all year because of a knee injury. If he's healthy he's a huge difference maker. And when...

yeah I got ya beat by a couple hours:bighug: My sources are a lot faster than ESPN

remember, they had no Polamalu. Trust me when I say that Polamalu is just as important to the Steelers' D as Bob Sanders is to Indy. Polamalu also...

he's coming out so his brother (a RS junior) can get more PT. He did something similar earlier this year where he took himself out at half so his...

Heath Miller is showing why it is important to have a good recieving TE. Miller won't get a lot of pub in the AFC cause of Gonzo,Gates, and K2 but...

teah TO and Julius Jones complaining about not getting the ball enough

yeah, I said it

since Terrence Newman (Kansas State), Drew Bledsoe (Wazzou), DeMarcus Ware (Troy), and Patrick Crayton (Northwestern State) are from power house...

hell I'd go as far as to say we'd have atleast 2 wins with Wanny as our coach. He wasn't good by any means, but the team atleast respected and...

not just crappy drafts, we've had crappy FA moves that backfired. We either sign guys who have one good year and don't live up to their contracts,...

and we'd pick up every rookie that got cut because he was good in college

hey, if one good game on national television against Pittsburgh's B team can convince some of the members of this board we blew it by not drafting...

I thought Romeo Crennel had verbally agreed to a contract with the Browns before the the Pats last Super Bowl, or maybe I'm imagining things. I...

Carolina has also looked to get a new returner for a couple years, but every guy they bring in, isn't good. This year, they actually drafted...

BUT, Talib played returned an INT for a TD to help a 21-1 Kansas team beat a heavily favored VTech team to win a BCS bowl while Cason was a great...

just some food for thought, Martellus Bennett declared for the draft. Do you take him or Davis?

the fact that CJ ran a 4.35 puts them on two different levels. The closest WR to CJ's athleticism is Adarius Bowman who was originally a member of...

Parcells doesn't have a certain conference, but he does have a certain player. They have to be good guys, strong leaders, ect. Saban did love...

oh I know he can flat out play, but so can Talib. And if Talib runs the rumored 4.3 he can run, he'll jump Cason

Willie Colon is one ugle dude

I dunno, Newman and Trufant were both very good coming out of college. I think Cason,Jenkins, and Talib(heavy lean to enter) are all shut down...

we don't play a 3-4 so it's not a problem:thumbup:

it will take a lot of money to get him out of Seattle though if he's not franchised. He grew up in the state, and went to Wazzou. So he's gonna be...

think that's a little too early for Adibi but not bad

doesn't help that Moss stopped running

Cason depends on 2 things 1)How many underclassmen declare. He's the number 2 CB behind Michael Jenkings. If Aquib Talib and Malcolm Jenkins...

in the case of Collins, he knew his job; help Campbell become accustomed to Al Saunder's offense. His success as a starter is suprising...

with Martellus Bennett entering the draft, IMO our pick at 32 is a no brainer if he's available. Someone that athletic, at 6'6 is a must. He...

nah I just think it was the hometown team making a late push. It's a lot like Anthony Davis committing to Rutgers last year instead of Ohio State....

I'll disagree on there being no great LT prospects in the draft. Ryan Clady and Jeff Otah will both be very good as will Chris Williams as will...

Hardy really depends on his 40 times. He's a big WR with great hands, but between his shoddy past and a poor 40 time, he could fall more than he...

it will all come down to how his visit at Ann Arbor goes. We've got the offense he likes, his cousin (Tony Clemons) is on the team, and with...

success as a cordinator, respect of players, leadership, reputation of developing players, having a clear cut vision. If you look at most new...

this was actually a rather lackluster roster since so many top guys either going to the under armour game, or not going at all. Here's a list of...

I thought it was pretty funny that Lemming and the other announcers seemed pissed that Robinson chose ASU. Pryor is playing games with...

highly unlikely that all happens, but very well thought out and organized.

remember though,Linehan wasn't even considered a HC canidate until our offense exploded. If Ryan hasn't been given a HC job yet, he might not for...

why are we talking about Allen going in when he's in the AFC? THere has to be a better S in the NFC. OJ Otogwe,Gibril Wilson,Terrence Holt,Brian...

all depends on how quickly the team buys into the new coaching staff.

my thought on the Michigan players... Bobo Cissoko did very good early on, but got beat a couple times because of the huge height difference....

Manningham might not be as good as Kelly or Hardy, but he's better than Bess and Thomas IMO

a little tid bit of Pryor from ESPN-They say he's down to Oregon and Michigan. That being said, it's probably 99.9% untrue. OSU has been after...

while Washington is a good story, the fact is the Jags would be an elite team if not in the Colts division. 2 premier RBs, a QB that doesn't make...

another update

Martin is interesting. Everything I hear says he's gonna stay Michigan. BUT it's one of those things that if you go to a ND site they say he's...

part of that was because his first year there, they tried to make him a 3-4 DE. Not the brightest move to have a Tampa 2 DT play 3-4 DE he's...

we're not even a 3-4 yet. But I think he has some experience. Maybe from college, but wasn't Dick LeBeau the HC at Cincy early in Smith's career?

being a Michigan fan and seeing what O$U's weaknesses are, I honestly just can't see them winning. Beanie Wells will get his numbers, but the rest...

not to sound like an ***, but not everybody (myself included) listen to his radio show (I don't live in Florida, and don't really bother looking...

basically what it sounds like. 7 offensive players, 7 defensive players. Pretty much scrimmage football.

basically Manningham (and a few others) hate the fact that Mallett has acted as if he didn't really want to be at Michigan. He was an Arkansas fan...

remember, Utecht was probably the best senior TE in his draft class; ahead of Ben Watson and Ben Troupe (Winslow was a Jr), but went undrafted...

if you want real bargains look no further than 2 indy FAs; Matt Giordano and Ben Utecht

list of whose committing tommarrow at the Army All-American Game and where I think they'll go Patrick Johnson 5* CB-LSU: Kid has been really...

also Tomlin was never really considered HC material until he came to Miami and had a decent offense w/o Moss/Culpepper/Burleson/Robinson/ect

to be fair, Brennan did get a bit of a raw deal since it was in the middle of the Sexual Harrassment trial with the female kicker and Jim Barnett...

definatly 4-3. People forget, Parcells did not even commit to running the 3-4 until he signed Jason Ferguson and drafted Ware/Spears/Canty....

I knew he went to juvy, but I didn't know he played 7 on 7 there. try 2-4. He was given a mid 2nd grade, and could be taken there with a good...

Kornheiser himself said he has no idea why he got the gig. Apparantly ESPN thought he'd be a good comedy guy. I like him on PTI, but he did sound...

we talked about it last night and it got ugly because one member of the forum's wife (whose Mexican-American) got offended, and another member of...

already have Bess in the draft. Gryce-Mullen is thinking of leaving too

also left cause Manningham hates him

that is the list of those who are confirmed

I'll give my opinion. Fairly raw as he played 7-7 football in high school. Very productive WR in Hawaii's spread. Great speed and ok size....

update Anthony Collins and Aquib Talib of Kansas are both expected to announce their intentions to enter the draft on Monday Hawaii WR Ryan...

defense is better than it was under Tomlin so who knows.

sorry if I fail to see the humor or irony in those comments

Michigan's chances of landing Pryor just took a giant step forward. Ryan Mallett is transferring to UCLA

See here's why I'm offended. How he said it made it sound like we are bad because of our minorities. For those who don't see the big deal,...

but they have really good blitz packages and it's a very hard defense to plan against

it's how he said it. The way he said it it sounded as though he was saying Miami was bad because they have a Samoan FB, a Mormon QB, and a Mexican WR

he also said a Samoan fullback. I actually emailed ESPN about it cause there's no place for it

updated list. Also, Mario Manningham announced he's staying at Michigan

that's Rob Ryan, Rex is from the Ravens

I dunno about a HC, but we'd have a pretty badass defense with the 46 scheme

str8outtalocash pretty much nailed it. His reasoning for us being bad is 2 of our players are minorities, and our QB is of a religion most people...

OT: but LeBetard is gonna get a lot of crap for what he just said on PTI

guys hate to tell ya, but we never went in to full blown rebuilding mode. Most of that is Wanny's fault for trading so many picks, but he's not...

bit anticlimactic, but a good move. Don't want to change the system

just to point out, I don't think we ever went to square 1. I don't think Cam/Mueller even thought about rebuilding until they traded Chambers. If...

I've admitted, I've grown sour towards Cam because of decisions he's made as the year went on. But I do think part of the reason for his failures,...

here's my under the rader list QB Josh Johnson, San Diego- Has thrown more than 30 TDs and less than 10 INTs for 3 straight years. Fairly...

we're technically not a 3-4

Take into account that Rolle and CMac were in and out of the lineup all year. They had an above average defense with Derrick Martin and Corey Ivy...

I look and I see him knock guys away from Henne, I see him not get penalized, and I don't see him getting beat all the time. oh and for you...

to say Brennan is overrated after this game is kind of unfair. His OL is getting manhandled. He will be an NFL player, his WRs will be in the NFL,...

if we keep Cam, I won't be happy, but I will bite my tongue. However, if the staff doesn't have massive changes (ie new cordinators) I will lose it

today's game did bolster a lot of top prospects for the draft. Players rumored to be leaning towards declaring that played in the game- Derrick...

here's a question, has Michael Beasley had a better freshmen season than Kevin Durant? Remember that Durant had Augustine,Abrams, and James on his...

just to set the record straight, Florida started the trash talking before the game, and they were doing there fair share of talking as well....

Henne,Manningham,Arrington, and Hart (despite his fumbles) all played their hearts out for Coach Carr. Adams,Taylor, Jamison, and Crable also did...

Henne did NOT have great coaching. We only opened the playbook if Hart was hurt or we needed to score. Otherwise Henne was just suppose to go...

no those two are red shirt seniors. And Henne has never underachieved THAT much

note to Mike Hart: Now is the worst time to play like Brandon Minor. Also, I hate how our secondary just let's WRs run clean

to be fair, his So year 4/5 of the OL was injured as were Avant and Breaston half the time. And last year was all about Hart.

here's the thing with Henne, he's got all the physical tools, and has great stats, but something doesn't always click. When he needs to step...

Note to Florida: next time you trash talk, don't talk to Hart cause he'll never shut up. He's talked trash with Jim Harbaugh,the entire MSU...

interesting note on AA, he was suppose to be our number 1 as a true sophomore ahead of Avant and Breaston, but fractured his ankle the first game...

ah did I say I watned him?:thumbup:. I was just defending my Wolverines. I want C Long,Dorsey or Gholston

I've watched every Michigan game for the past couple years. Trust me, Long is not the problem on the OL. Never has been

Manningham is a more refined WR than Ginn was coming out, and Mario does run very good routes. He probably will not be a go to guy in the NFL, but...

not first ballot, but should get there eventually. He does have a lot going for him though, consistently great, great leader, good community guy, ect.

RTs tend to be used primarily as run blockers, while LT's protect the QB's blind side

he's really not that big. He's 6' and I'd be surprised if he was over 180 LBs. But he is fast and has good hands. Arrington on the other hand is...

he's a boarderline first rounder

just to make it clear, Ryan was only fired because the Ravens got rid of all Billick's assistants. His 46 defense is one of the best in the NFL...

he gave up 1 sack to Gholston this year, and that was his only sack and he hasn't been penalized all year. How can you say he's regularly...

quick question... why do we have our MLB trying to cover Harvin?

I don't think it's fair to say Long can't play LT. He's given up 1 sack all year, and has not been penalized. Hell when he played RT as a Soph and...

ya'll are seeing why nobody is shedding tears that Carr and is staff are out. Players constantly out of shape, not living up to their talent...

busted coverage by Ezi. That is why English is not being retained

just to make it clear I like Gholston, and I was not attacking you. People just jump to conclusions when someone on another team is dominant, and...

and I'm positive he didn't. I'm pretty sure Long was going up against Heyward all day, and Gholston went up against Schilling

Gholston dominated him when Long was a junior. Long did not give up a sack this year. Gholston worked primarily against Seve Schilling. I feel...

trust me, most Michigan fans think the defense acted like a bunch of idiots with those quotes. Almost none of us think we'll win, and most are...

Guys like Nolan and Crennel (if he gets fired)do not deserve to be fired. Look at how bad the talent pool and cap situations were in San Fran and...

as I have said countless times. I was always open to Cam, BUT he's lost my support as weeks have gone on because some of his decisions were... for...

what I find funny is everybody wants to draft a LT, but are so against Jake Long cause he projects to be a RT. Funny thing is though, he's a...

only thing to remember is a team can change it's dynamics overnight with a good offseason. Not saying it will happen to us but in this league...

to be fair to Billick, the franchise (while great at finding defensive players) has really struggled to find any offensive talent. Travos Taylor...

he wanted out of GB, Denver got him out, not he wants out of Denver but for different reasons. He wanted more money in GB and got pissed Favre...

difference between a cordinator and a HC

final 3 for Patrick Johnson- LSU,Florida, and FSU. Pryor showed up to registrations wearing a Michigan sweatshirt so take that for what it's...

Terrelle Pryor has added a fifth team to his list... DUKE. Pryor really likes David Cutcliffe, but don't read too much into it

don't know about the game on ABC, but several recruits will be announcing where they will commit during the Army All American Bowl. Those...

might want to change the title to Cam thinks he'll be back. I don't know why he'd tell the team he was returning, I think the team has had...

here's what is said Though everyone expects Fins coach Cam Cameron to be fired, a league source tells us that Cameron told the team after...

that's what Cam said, but the PFT guys don't seem to believe it (they even say that they thought alcohol was no longer allowed in the locker...

it would be more than just their first and ocho cinco. Probably have to throw in a 2nd or 3rd and then a late rounder

6.Not playing or practicing Hadnot and Shelton with the first team when he knew that they'd be starters 7.All the damn fake reverses to Ginn...

well, considering Ginn did drop a lot of passes at OSU, and really only ran 1 route (straight down the field, the only other time he got the ball...

there were a couple games earlier this year where we had the ball with a couple TOs left and over 90 seconds left on the clock while the game was...

probably a package deal. Thing was Mueller was gonna be fired last year, but Saban left so they decided to give him a shot. So basically, if Tuna...

no need, he lives in Davey County

part of it was cincy getting a lot of pressure on Lewinski and Shelton, part is we don't run many deep routes, and part is we look to the...

yeah well watching Chatman and Cobbs wasn't exactly like watching LT block

as we've seen though, we did not use Porter the right way at all. Early, we were using him mostly as a DE in a 4-3 due to teams going 3 wide, then...

you'd be surprised how many people would like to play here. We've never had trouble getting guys to come here if we really want them to come. A...

I think we need to get a good TE this offseason whether a FA or a draftee. One of the many reasons for our struggles is we have nobody to take up...

that was last year, what did he do last year

Long was not even going up against Gholston. Gholston dominated redshirt freshman Steve Schilling.

ok Cam shows no urgency on offense, and now is calling TOs?!? I HATE THIS GUY

he gave us Cam, that's enough for him to be fired.

yeah these TOs are really endearing Cam to Tuna. As for the draft, we need a DT and a DE

why did Cam call a TO?

were we in max protection?

Cam has done nothing to instill confidence in anybody. I'm sorry but his playcalling is getting rediculous

yeah, Everybody was raving about him all summer, Cam doesn't play him, and when he does he produces. Oh yeah, radio just said they do not...

you can hate on Beck all you want, but the defense is killing us as always

the thing with the Colts is Polian and Dungy know what they want in a player. They reach all the time (Freeney,Sanders,Keiaho,Hayden,Clark) but...

Cause Cam is in love with Chatman and Cobbs was better at ST. Plus, LoBooker missed preseason to be with his newborn kid. Not good reasons to...

radio commentators are now complaining that Cam is not atleast trying to open the playbook so the fans can atleast be somewhat excited

I'm all about player patience, but I've had enough of these coaches

If we're gonna take a QB, take Brohm,Woodson,Henne,or Flacco. All 4 have lead their teams, and all 4 have a lot of experience getting beat up by...

Ginn has been pretty good yards wise. But with how Edwards has played....

thing I'll say as to why I don't want to draft a QB, I don't think Ryan is a franchise QB

ok so Beck, might not be getting a second chance

the crowd chanting Beck. Either they still have faith in the rookie (unlike some people on this forum) or they want some whisky

Pope is one of my favorite players on the team. Everytime he has to step in, he produces

Cam & Capers defensive adjustment also sucks. Ok drop 20 plus yards back so you don't give up the big play, but instead give up 20 yard games each...

hell put tuff harris in at S. Can't be worst than Bryant and Allen have been. That's almost impossible

Dom Capers has officially lost his job. HTF do you have your safeties that far back?!?

and Beck is a rookie. Your hate for him is unbelievable.

for those not listening to the radio, they are ripping the fake reverse cause it never works, and they ripped our lack of drafting success

whose man was that?

and that is why we'll have atleast a new DC

I said according to the radio. I do not know whether he did or not. My point was, that while he probably hasn't produced TDs like we had hoped, he...

just a note on Ginn, he's closing in on 2000 total yards this year according to the radio. My personal goal for him was 1400, so in a way he has...

all I'm saying is we go deep more to Booker and Hagan than we do with Ginn.

note for plays: Hagan is NOT a deepthreat

IMO you have to give Beck another chance

interesting point made. Cam says Cleo gives the best chance to win, but now it doesn't matter so why not play Beck

cleo has 37 yards on 6/10 Palmer is 4/7 with 37. Am I missing something here?

Josh Cribbs scored another TD

I trust Tuna more than Cam

oh and I hate all these check downs just to point out, I bring that stat up all the time

cause Tuna has no loyalty to anybody in this organization except Wayne. Tuna is gonna gut this team

people talk about injuries, look at all the injuries the Colts have had. After watching them, I don't want to hear anything about injuries

we've been giving up 3rd and long all season. I don't care how many starters are hurt, when you are giving up 3rd and long consistently, you're...

again, us giving up another 3rd and long is what is going to cost a bunch of people there jobs

face mask in coverage

Bryan just cost himself a job

plays like that is why everybody hates Cam and Capers

say what you want about our ST play, but we'd be even worse without Feely

no worries about me going to the Jets, but we've actually made plays with Booker in the game. Hell, I hate Cam for not using Camarillo on offense...

even if he caught it, he was gonna get plastered. Hate plays like that.

watching Booker play makes me hate Cam for not using him

radio guys just said not a good sign for Cam that the most intensity this year was the practice Tuna was at

early in the year, Holliday was injured and and the DTs were getting knocked off their lines easily. As the year went on, it became LBs and S's...

I'd take out Lemon and add the Allen boys. Will had a very good year breaking up passes, and Allen has been pretty good

I don't think Florida has a lot of scholly's this year, but they did get Will Hill, and are finalists for Darrell Scott aka Adrian Peterson v 2.0...

understatement of the centurey. Desean Jackson is the only top 10 worthy WR right now, but this is a deep class especially if...

I'm not buying the motivation argument. Coming into the season, we had a pretty good record when we gave Ronnie the ball 20+ times a game. Even...

good points, and I'll add S&C has been a problem for awhile. The last 3 years, it was not being ready to start the season, during the JJ/Wanny...

we wouldn't really be starting over again since we really didn't start over to begin with. Despite losing several players from last year team, we...

Beck actually had 2 very good TEs, one is on the Bengals (Daniel Coats), but your point is well taken. I don't think Ryan is a better prospect...

Utech is a starter. Indy starts 2 TEs. Well "decent at best" is still better than what we currently have

I thought McDaniels would bring a better talent evaluation and gameplan to us similar to what Romeo has done in Cleveland (even before this year,...

just cause you never heard of them doesn't make them bad players

nah too many burnt bridges. Speaking of COLTS...Look for Ryan Lilja and Jake Scott to leave via free agency... Id love Lilja!!! COlts are dumb...

all I'm saying is Ben Utect and Matt Giordano are gonna be steals for whoever signs them.

IMO he'll get drafted by a cover 2 team and switched to LB

Daunte I was not excited about at first. Once I saw he was able to go in practice, I talked myself into being excited. Then after the first couple...

one thing that holds BC's offense back is they do not have the personel to run Jagadinski's offense. They are built as a power team that passes to...

McFadden might not even get to play in the cotton bowl because he's getting investigated for a potential violation

besides the fact that June,Harper,Reagor, and Doss aren't very good? Doss lost his starting job to a 6th round rookie out of Howard. And don't...

Silva is actually more of a ballhawk than Sammy. Sammy never got as many ints as Silva does. Just thought I'd mention a couple prospects to...

I think this year has proven that Sanders is the most important member of the Indy D. Freeney was lackluster last year, and was doing pretty bad...

just to point something out. Cam was not in my top 5. When we were doing the search, I remember a post saying I wanted 1.Ken Wisenhunt 2.Brian...

on a side note: this is why people are given sidline warnings.

it was a mess up, but if the Devils come back and win it is not his fault. PI call before that, roughing the passer before that, and a 21-0 lead....

because of everybody's hatred towards Cam's playcalling,Caper's defense, and Armstrong's ST play. But S&C does need to improve. Even under...

a lot of lesser known guys on the list that could become stars if given the chance. Names I'll throw out by position. QB-Josh McCown: I thought...

Haynesworth would not be as dominant in the Jets D as he would in others, JMO.

we would've started at LG instead of Lewinski, but no idea how he'll fit in next year

not totally true. Guys like Jimmy Kennedy and Jonathan Sullivan were gigantic busts. And Dwyane Robertson was decent when he wasn't forced to play...

only thing I'll say is be weary about Forston. He's still committed to Da U, but many insiders believe he is seriously considering going to North...

we've been scoring huh? Greg Camarillo had our first TD pass since the London game. Before that Gado had our only TDs since London

would not be surprised, Parcells has a history of brining his guys to a team to set what he wants. I would not be surprised if we went after...

has got to enter the draft before we decide, but he would be a nice pick up.

it's hard to disagree with Armando on some points, but that article just has so much venom behind it. No wonder so many Floridians hate him

wait one second. Daniels is NOT as bad as Reggie Howard. He's been pretty bad, but he's no where near Howard level bad; a guy who couldn't cover a...

I understand your concerns, but I disagree. Parcells will put his guys in place, but I have no problem with that because his guys usually win....

I don't know if predictable is the right word, more like boring and uninspiring. He was kind of creative during the preseason, but showed no...

like the first 3, rest not so much

I think some people are having a hard time grasping the fact that we need to build our lines up. The only guys that have impressed me on DL this...

For most of the year, we were averaging 5 YPC and Satale was a huge part of why. The biggest problem with our OL is we had bad play at LG and RT.

we've got to give Beck another shot IMO he looked bad but he was a ROOKIE. Give him a fair shot unless Parcells does not like him, and we really...

I actually agree with trading CC. We need a lot of upgrades so sometimes you have to be willing give up something in order to gain something

let's look at the Patriots,Packers,Colts, Seahawks, Bucs,Chargers, and the Steelers. 1 or 2 FA signings if that.

here's how I see it. Teams like NE and Indy draft based on who they want, not by who is good value and their picks always work out (See NE taking...

apparantly you don't remember Reggie Howard aka, I get burnt deep, and miss the short tackle. But both Daniels and his LSU teammate Cory Webster...

we also lost Donnie Jones who was an RFA and we lost Seth McKinney (though he might've been cut), and don't know if the guys that we didn't resign...

IMO Thomas was the right pick, and last time I checked, he had not given up a sack all year and probably should've been a pro bowler. As for...

actually, Marcus Spears was a DT at LSU so although he plays DE in a 3-4, he technically was drafted as a DT. IMO Right now there are 4 names...

just a reminder, the first day is only 2 rounds this year

being a Michigan fan I'd love to see Jake Long on our team, BUT seeing how much our D-Line gets gutted, we need Dorsey or Chris Long.

to clarify, what he was saying was that since Tuna is VP of Football operations, if he wants a GM, they'll only be named GM. Organizations have...

best players are another year older, and depth is not what it used to be. But the more I see of our fins, the more I see that Capers is not...

when I say exceptional that's all I mean. He hasn't done anything fantastic, but he hasn't been bad. IMO he's been better than LJ Shelton,Damien...

let's remember though that most of those WRs came in and were made the go to guy from day 1, or were in a system that allows a WR to get a long of...

they were just talking about this on ESPNNews, The belief is Zach will be kept because he's a great leader, and JT (while the type of player...

having watched Ginn destroy my Wolverines the past 3 years, I'm a shocked with his inconsistency in the return game. Part of it is him, and part...