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Flores possibly. Grier hell no. and I think at least part of the reason tua isn’t starting now is cause grier wants to keep moving the qb...

Tanny has better numbers than Mahomes the last 14 games. check em for yourself. you ain’t doing that if you ain’t damn good. Mahomes is...

I pop in and sure enough this thread is still at the very top of the board. too funny I wonder if eagle message boards are having this years...

4 years $118 mil $29.5 mil per signed sealed delivered back witb the titans

Saw something that had 4 years $125 mil $75 mil guaranteed as contract terms for tannehill assuming titans don’t tag him

ha ha ha exactly. Might be good for our long term future not good for our here and now

I’m not sure Mahomes can be put in that category yet. I think it could be headed there but umm that damn kc scheme on offense is top shelf and...

I don’t. Give me San Fran. The legit run game and defense. I will take the risk that the San Fran d travels in this one. And there is risk there...

yeah that’s called in from the sideline and if he doesn’t throw it then you got illegal men downfield one of them was a dump off if I recall...

Tannehills situational instincts needs to be better. I thought it was something to develop. Evidently I thought wrong. it’s still evident. Leaks...

i saw that too but it is his backside bail out dump option in the progression. Probably better off just to throw it in the dirt but again is built...

Whole different level defense playing zone behind the 9ers front. Whole different level. Counting on that front 4 to get home and taking away the...

Mahomes won’t have the luxury of holding tbe ball against the 9ers as long as he did against the titans. he’s gonna face more heat fo sho...

yeah I think on tbe backside that it was the right call.

that has to be something else right? Something pre snap. Otherwise...although I tbink they ended up calling it on the right tackle for a cut block...

The 9ers just threw the ball 7 total times and no passes for over an hour and a half of real time. defense and run game doesn’t win playoff...

Titans only answer on d was show man pre snap play zone post snap. took a while but kc figured it out. so so much zone from Tennessee

no. Right guy for the ask. But you can improve the roster and it won’t be long before you find out the qb play isnt good enough/sub par

More like senior bowl showing. But don’t rule it out. It’s the closest thing to Mahomes the leagues seen skill set wise and nfl decision makers...

30ish total tds in 10 games from the pocket progression qb should do the talking. it’s not a mirage

Easy tiger. The “magic of fitz magic” commandeered the 5th pick

I tend to agree with that. Hard to replicate the next week.

yeah that was a bad read and he was late on the throw outside too. Should have banged the seam. jacksons pocket read stinks. Mahomes is gonna...

yeah I’m aware. No real weakness to try to exploit was my point.

Mahomes is a whole different level pocket passer than Jackson. Like another planet even.

That damn kc offense is whoof scary. Travis kelce i mean no one defeats coverage like that guy does. There may be better blocking tight ends but...

Can’t take that sack Russell. oh the irony this year lol

chiefs better maintain the sticks if that happens cause all Moore’s coverage ids have to come off of motion. Proved that in Miami the more...

also gase is proving bad with personnel relationships. Seems to have followed him to the jets too. it’s everyone’s fault but mine

yeah those were built ins. Wr screen built ins based primarily on box count. In terms of design we could have done something else

If they could have stuck with the no huddle offense they envisioned I think we’d be talking about a different story in Miami right now gase and...

I don’t think gase was as bad as some others do but I mean in 2018 he ran max protect with mike gesicki responsible for the critical block at the...

lots of drop out zone when the titans had them way behind the sticks. Taking away the deep stuff in terms of quick strike points stuff but...

That chiefs d played much better the second half the year. Trending up Id say

he should have had another but Jennings dropped an absolute over the lb level red zone td dime

he won’t hit the market. Tag or extension. Going nowhere

yeah can’t leave that out! Lol.

you way low. They better tag him or his agent better be fired if he doesn’t get at least 3 and 90 fully guaranteed.

im sure not betting against them next week. I don’t care who they play. this has a feel of something special

Rumor is titans will tag tannehill and Henry. Franchise and transition. makes a ton of sense from the titans side

And now the pre snap and progression read qb that we dumped largely due to our own incompetence and some rotten medical luck one year later is one...

If it’s not gonna be pre snap and progression read and the only guy that I really think in this class gives you that is fromm and he’s an average...

Hey how bout that td tannehill scored on the option? Lol that kid can do any ask in terms of style of o you want to dial up.

Jalen hurts would be another example for me and he’s not one half the run threat Jackson is. That guy won’t beat you consistently with...

Yeah but those pistol looks are post snap reads by the qb. So it’s like a variation of tbe zone read but in a pistol with pass sets built into it....

Tberes a reason I keep saying pre snap and progression read is the ideal qb. and the time held true gold standard. it doesn’t need to be propped up.

I don’t think they abandoned the run as much as I do that Jackson’s post snap reads in the pistol run sets they were in told him to keep it. But...

There’s a lesson to learn here. The duel tbreat qb that can’t make consistent plays from the pocket as a passer is by and large fools gold. so...

exactly. As a pure pocket passer and secondary progression qb he was exposed. But the ravens o is designed in the pass game to give him easy...

Can’t live in pistol when you are chasing tbe scoreboard. And just about every time he took a regular pass set the qb pocket read and passer...

There’s no reason to pass tbe ball when the scoreboard doesn’t dictate it and you’ve forced the other qb into plan b and all his pocket passer...

That games a perfect example of how scoreboard dictates play calling. and one QBs pocket passer warts showing up despite empty passing numbers.

The numbers are crazy.

you and me both! we forgot to add that the ravens have the best kicker in the league too. That dude can split the uprights from 60 like its cake....

You guys heard the rumor about who beli wants to replace Brady if they move on?

I’m sure someone comes out flat and stubs their toe but man it’s hard to pick it. and this is the round where I think you usually see blow outs....

pretty sure he was one of their primary coverage on tight ends guys. Bad team to miss him vs. primary in line Boyle, h back hurst, flex and iso...

And don’t think his agent won’t be firing them off this offseason during negotiations.

I’m tempted. Of all the road teams to pick to advance this would be tbe one for me.

Are the titans missing one of their primary carry coverage lbs tonight in brown? Is he done?

those numbers are nuts. I’m a tape guy not a numbers guy but that **** speaks for itself.

Which deshaun watson is gonna show up? The one that takes due to primarily inability to read the field bad sacks playing school yard football who...

This is outstanding analysis

i would have rather played the chiefs but either way you get to this point your hands are gonna be full regardless. Nice that the pats have gone...

If I’m being honest I think Baltimore’s gonna roll tonight. I don’t see the titans with an extra week for baltimore being able to deal witb that...

Anybody that doesn’t think Mark Ingram is legit downhill should be ignored. Cause he is and that outflank qb threat with him downhill inside and...

I think it favors baltimore because Jackson is not a pre snap and progression read qb and a more natural runner. His legs are built more into...

Zone read with Jackson and Ingram should be a problem and the passing off of it when the titans lbs get nosy. Which they will to try and stop the...

If ravens can’t run the ball under normal ask I bet ya they just pivot to Lamar Jackson with it instead of a change of pace option. I don’t know...

Yeah but I bet ya San Fran’s d was better then. the first half the year they were like lights out.

Heavy tight end sets favor the ravens. It’s what their offense is built around. this weather plays right into it. So does that qbs instincts as...

sounds like another heavy run and pa passing game day. don’t get behind the sticks or scoreboard. You start chasing it problems. Stick witb plan...

with marshawn lynch they didn’t run well? That battering ram vs 9 man boxes with single coverage on the outside and little to no help cause they...

tannys 7 year miami run talent wise doesn’t sniff Seattle’s. And yeah Wagner imo is a hall of famer when he hangs em up. the only thing they were...

by and large Seattle’s scheme on both sides of the ball has been much more competent than miamis. But they’ve also been a much more talented team....

According to numbers in a vacuum yep lol but Ryan should get even more of a olive branch cause he’s got to go on the road lol too funny

well that’s not really what I’m saying. That’s a concepts difference in terms of emphasis and gameplan etc. more oc based or play caller based...

There’s no real similarities in tannehill and Wilson other than they were drafted the same year. In terms of their actual ideal offense fit or...

I mean miami didn’t even run qb sneak on short yardage as in less than one with Ryan. The levels of incompetence with personnel in Miami has...

jeez somebody spring for a peloton for this guy

I’m gonna pass but you could probably hand out water or greet people at the facility

that’s called strategy on his part. Brees vs rosen lol age and experience is but a number don’t ya know

to add to this it would be a “move over Jerome baker” move lol we done upgraded

I’m with ya as long as the medical outlook is thru a 2nd contract. As in his rookie deal and the 2nd contract extension at tail end. 10 years yep...

I bet ya it costs more than that.

well then you probably want the penn state sophomore lb #11 who looks earmarked for the top 5 next year and imo front runner for defensive player...

dang I didn’t know that. I knew the offense was out of control. Teams walk into buzz saws all tbe time on the road in the postseason especially...

I was very underwhelmed witb ego. He needs to step up next year or be replaced or heck I might just see if I can find something that makes him a...

Hey mcduffie question for you. If oj never hurts that toe is he a hall of famer right now? Anybody else want to weigh in?

makes sense. Reader carries that Houston run defense

He was ok. Imo dt is one of the hardest positions in football to come in and show out immediately. Miami needs him to take a step in terms of...

I imagine humphries will probably get the aj brown assignment. And that dude is a stud. He can match physically in tbe stem or the top of the...

that pats corner level is very underrated. All 3 of those guys both boundary’s and the slot were plus grade in 2019. The safeties aren’t too...

all pocket progression and pre snap read guys. So not surprising

Well I’m pretty damn sure the ball will go where the coverage says it should witb tanny. It pretty much always does. but yes they gonna need an...

yeah firkser runs pretty decent routes and if you can get him isoed on a safety which they should be able to do situationally cause they won’t...

I mean I know the way teams played them and it was scared to death of lynch and the run game downhill and knowing that even 14 points vs that...

I haven’t really watched the ravens defense enough to be honest with you. But id expect a lot of loaded boxes and one on one on the outside. I...

I thought we were done with this but I’m not insecure about a thing. Anything football related you want to step to the plate on I’m here. Always...

I’m fully capable of that I’m just not gonna blame him for things that aren’t in his control or his responsibility. For example that int last...

At this point it’s pretty much all gravy though. They made the postseason after a 2 and 4 going nowhere start and sent the yearly juggernaut...

That’s kinda like when we played Detroit years ago and everyone blamed tannehill as their dline literally whooped us all over the field. It was a...

ha I was just thinking that line was low. Ravens always beat up miami at the los I don’t think it will be easy vs the titans o line but I could...

10 point line in favor of the ravens I think that should be more 13. But maybe that Lamar first game in the postseason thing is playing into it....

Odds are good if the titans get smoked this week you will be able to look to the los as to why. Usually when someone gets it handed to them it’s...

Titans only possessed the ball for 11 minutes in the first half. That’s surprising. fun fact when the ravens beat the pats in the 09 playoffs I...

I’m willing to bet anyone if Herbert fails it’s cause he doesn’t have it between the ears. That Oregon offense is qb for dummies. So either it’s a...

This year teams just doubled Edelman situationally and Brady either stayed on him too long or didn’t trust anyone else to make a play/didn’t have...

absolutely. Last year he looked like attrition was catching up witb him somewhat but man was that guy the goods. I never seen a tight end press a...

Depends on what we do at qb.

I’d be good with it. It would be a good fit for tannehills game and who knows maybe beli could take the ceiling even higher. There’s a lot of...

“Flash in the pan” with a pocket progression qb? I think it’s fair to say the expectation for tannehill going forward should be a 100 plus...

that was a fugly bowl game tape and considering that he comes from a defense optional conference it’s pretty hard to overlook what he plays like...

sorry I got off on a tangent. What I should have said was I agree with you that Ryan in tbe ravens o wouldn’t be a good fit. Cause he’s not as...

the ravens offense is all about the legs threat of the qb and the heavy tight end packages. They’ve tailored that sucker completely around Lamar...

It’s like people think tannehill can only survive in a play action based system. So wierd. So not correct too.

Sounds like somebody likes jalen hurts lol

I think it comes down to how much can burrows other aspects of his game offset any potential arm limitations. And how much can a team adjust its...

I’ve heard that but I think left tackle is a massive need assuming Trent Williams bolts out and that kid thomas from Georgia is gonna have a grade...

Move to 2 for tua. Don’t get sticker shock over the price

I think it’s more about the weather effecting the passing game or maybe even the calls in terms of how much the titans passed the ball. Maybe not....

I think on tbe fumble it was either an rpo or a zone read. I’m guessing zone read cause the rpo would be based on box count. Hard to tell though...

exactly. That game was a one score game the entire way. Both coaches could stick with plan a. The game was always in reach. that said I think the...

you know why. It doesn’t fit the narrative

by beating Tom Brady the implied interpretation should be beating the patriots. what the real take away for me is in what 20 years there’s only...

How many times did Kirk cousins run witb it today? Or Drew Brees? Different QBs do it different ways and have different ask of the QBs in tbe offense

Ryan tannehill joins peyton manning as the only QBs to beat Tom Brady 5+ times including playoffs

You got people arguing as if Ryan is a true duel threat qb in this thread. he’s not he’s a pocket progression qb who also has the ability to...

Someone explain to me why Lewan was called for illegal formation on the play before the big 3rd down conversion late. Does he have to be lined up...

Tennessee’s playing it late like I don’t care about your front patriots I’m running it anyways. probably cause they had the lead. Henry is doing...

3rd and 3 on the tipped ball at the los he’s gonna convert inside there but he’s got a much easier pivot route working outside. Would have liked...

yeah took away the vertical pa game which forced the ball underneath. Some call that settling others call it where the ball should go

3rd and 5 finally sees single high with robber running underneath the sticks concepts he makes a hell of a throw to the back for an 8 yard gain....

I’m still seeing a lot of depth safeties in the second half. Difference i see is the patriots went to that 6 man/bear front. Which given the...

I agree but I think the scoreboard and the sticks dictated the titans gameplan and in game sticking to plan a. Not to mention the pats offense...

Also I’m sure the vast majority of those titan passes last night were play action working off of the run game. And there was still plenty of...

Someone show me on tape where the pats played the Ryan Fitzpatrick led dolphins the same way they played the titans on d last night. Belichick...

Without Derrick Henry and tbe looks tbe patriots gave them they aren’t gonna play the same game. you call the game relative to what your...

Yeah the pats used that against the jets up 33 to 0. Love that he got it back witb the entire season on tbe line.

The goalposts just keep moving

I’m not sure that’s what he was doing. It was odd to see so much 2 deep safeties though although if I had to guess I think it had a lot to do with...

that Henry show was a product of the safety depth (lots of 2 deep) and the front. Which tannehill checked off of or to at the los.

he’d have been better off referencing the punter cause that guy was one of the game mvps.

In his eyes it’s on the same level. Qb and long snapper. Why cause somewhere along the line he’s probably cherry picked some number that supports it.

hey boss you win in that building in the postseason I don’t care how you did it you accomplished something. it’s rarefied air.

this dude. Seriously. We all know what he’s about. Pats are now 20 and 4 at home in the postseason in the Brady era. tannehill ices it on a 3rd...

fitz take off and run with it (which evidently was league leading in terms of number of times a qb ran witb it) was more than just about...

He wouldn’t have offset the oline play in pass pro but the run game with lynch for instance where I literally saw 9 man boxes even that couldn’t...

I was interested in Flynn myself. He put together a hell of a tape vs Detroit I think it was which basically got him paid by the hawks. That one...

I think the Jackson thing was always seen as a stop gap. He was always awful.

People forget that the same year the hawks drafted russell Wilson in the 3rd they signed Green Bay’s backup QB to multi year starter money. so...

Yep and then play action to expose the corner level. Not to mention likely getting all the critical calls

Mahomes plays in the best qb system in football. In terms of design and scheme. Tennessee’s not gonna run those concepts cause they don’t have...

I’ll tell ya this. What Ryan Fitzpatrick did last Sunday has no bearing on what happens today. Ryan needs to control what he can control and...

here you go again. I think tannehills play is absolutely sustainable but I’m no dummy and I know that damn place in tbe postseason has been a...

titans corner situation is bad and I’m worried about the run d tonight. Is adoree Jackson gonna play? and I’m not betting against that’s pats d...

be careful what you wish for

that same scheme thing is a big deal. Big advantage. Especially if it’s not a neutered qb one.

Honestly I think 2018 which was tannehills worst season on tape was all about rust from time missed. Timing of ball out of hand was just off. It...

It doesn’t but not all concepts have a delayed release back side built in either.

There’s nothing tannehills doing that isn’t sustainable. Now obviously leading the league in passer rating is a little mucb to ask yearly but in...

you are reaching. The ball goes where the coverage says it should go. Regardless of the concept/design. this is not a limit the qb ask qb. I can...

I’ve seen a lot of QBs who need a heavy dose of half field reads only passing concepts. tannehill on tape has never been one of them. Sure they...

That’s not even remotely comparable. The entire league uses roll outs it’s a staple even.

Nick foles ran the chip kelly neutered qb offense in Philly that year with the tempo based no huddle offense. product of the system results more...

so by that you mean that he was washed up by the time he got here?

you can give up now if you want to tell me that the league leader in passer rating (which is all about efficiency of qb ask) is less efficient the...

I’d venture to say it’s called chasing the scoreboard vs not chasing it. Not chasing it as a result of the qb being so damn efficient in his ask....

The only thing I predicted in tennessee was that mariota would grab some pine in a nanosecond. it took a little longer than it should considering...

I made the mistake of predicting it in Miami 4 games into his rookie season even. Should have known we’d never be competent around the qb enough.

But the thing is he wasn’t that raw when he got here. I watched his first 4 game tapes and was like this kid is mucb more advanced than his...

Aj brown deserves offensive rookie of the year imo lots of run thru contact in that kids future.

You sure did. League leader in 2019 for passer rating. Don’t quit your day job

ignorance is everywhere my friend. Ignorance is everywhere that said new England’s gonna come in with a plan to not let Derrick Henry beat them...

Congrats Ryan. Much deserved. that damn patriots stadium is a house of horrors for QBs in the postseason but it doesn’t matter. he’s earned...

the threads already moot.

That qb index guy nfl network has is a joke

backup they say. Lmao

corner level is ripe for the exploiting due to attrition. Jackson I don’t think even played this last game. not a good mix for a road playoff...

He did catch that ball but his hand came down out of bounds just a nick before his knee came down in bounds. Unlucky really

Winner winner chicken dinner

I just think it’s sticks driven heavy pa based which I could have told ya in Miami Ryan could run at a really high clip. helps also that that kid...

yep I agree that sack was definitely on Brees.

lol I was wondering if folks were gonna let that one pass

im not sure how anyone could ever debate this watching the tapes. It’s not even debatable even that damn titans defense does it’s job more then...

wilson can lay some stinkers. He just rarely lays them when the entire countries watching. Seems to rise to the occasion I guess the word would be lol

a sack where he steps up for a one or two yard loss doesn’t bother me. Those are limit the chains exposure type plays. i will take those any day....

Guys are definitely doing their jobs more in Tennessee then they ever did in Miami.

imagine if he was actually playing with a top 5 o line.

Watson was a legitimate top 5 mvp candidate the first half of the year he’s come back down to earth a bit of late. some of that old kryptonite...

you know I can’t tell anything on stills. but just to make sure people understand when I say 3rd row I don’t mean literally 3rd row. I mean...

I wasn’t counting that one. That’s Lewan all day long. but he also got bailed out on some sacks where the d committed penalties. Called that if...

Throws it at or past the los from the pocket towards a receiving option and he’s just fine. Not a penalty. If he can’t find his dump throw it down...

No doubt. But there’s times where you can’t take sacks situationally. And Ryan’s got a penchant for those

separates him from being truly elite. Just hasn’t developed at the clip where it would be expected. Muscle memory or what he was always gonna be?...

Hung in tbe pocket at times too long is an accurate assessment for that game from tannehill. Just throw it in the 3rd row. I think some of it is...

Doesn’t matter if the db lead witb the shoulder. If he hit him at the head or neck area at all witb that shoulder it’s a penalty. not to mention...

Fair enough but I think assuming we finish behind them that any of those teams lions included are prime candidates to move out for someone coming...

If tuas cleared you think he comes to you at 4 brad? I think that’s real risky. Real real risky you get trumped

No derrick Henry? Dion Lewis doesn’t cut the mustard. they need another between the tackles piece at rb. Where is the depth?

Yeah sorry boss. I’m playing for a pick at this point. Especially when I’m still looking for a qb. I see the difference in pick 3 and pick 5 as...

So what’s our rooting interest today? Both for tannehill and for us? Lol

I think it’s probably bad for Flores long term. One guy who shouldn’t be able to pass the buck anymore is Grier.

That’s it. And then he found injury which derailed him. He was a thumper.

That detroit front had suh, Nick fairley before his ego got in the way, and ziggy ansah before injury kicked in. They had a lb that was an...

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ravens-reportedly-plan-to-start-robert-griffin-iii-in-week-17-vs-steelers-if-they-secure-playoff-seeding/

I blame personnel deficiencies around minkah more than anything else. Which comes back to the gm and personnel decision makers. bobby mccain...

Yeah Berger’s coming back. I’m sure the Steelers feel like they can wait another year. offense is very limited with both Rudolph and duck. Very...

As for tunsil he’s got a nasty habit of rocking back early in his set. The kind of thing a guy that doesn’t trust his tools or doesn’t have them...

Eric rowe is carrying coverage on tight ends. Something his size and twitch is much more fit for than the boundary for example. Absolutely awful...

That fitzpatrick thing because we suck too much personnel deficiencies wise to put him full time at free safety is lolz. If we somehow win that...

I think your read is spot on op. only thing that saves this is an out right elite QB add in the draft. And by elite I mean plays at the elite...

I’d want them to fix the tackle situation at least if they were to bring back tannehill. but if I’m tannehill I tell miamis front office to kick...

Am I wrong or did Kirk cousins not get $87 mil over 3 years fully guaranteed? didn’t foles get similar? Why would tannehill be expected to play...

How can they know that?

I was hoping you wouldn’t say a win clinches the 1 seed. Just like I’m hoping you won’t say a win for the pats clinches the 2. any chance you see...

What’s the guarantee the ravens will be playing for something still come week 17?

I will just add one more thing. These are 3 damn good teams that the titans are playing to close the season. Texans twice and the saints. 2 and 4...

Tannehills int wasn’t even remotely on tannehill. That’s a called in from the sideline tight red predetermined primary throw where as long as the...

I don’t really know but they are stout in the middle. Last game I saw they said they were ranked #3 vs it. that dt reader guy is carrying it I think.

FYI Texans have a top 5 run defense this year

Russell Wilson takes plenty of sacks that are on him. Completely on him. As does deshaun watson. there are others. and they aren’t progression...

If there are for example 6 sacks in a game and you want to tell me on average 2 of those will be on the qb with Ryan I’m fine with that....

Someone already said on this board tannehill has a few flaws to his game none of which are fatal. And that person was spot on. Really only flaw...

Well for example with tua I’m gonna run a rpo and west coast concepts based offense. and I think that is just about as sustainable as the pre...

Yeah there’s some rg3 type stuff going on there in terms of the threat of his acceleration and legs doing some driving. And he’s taking some...

He’s gonna take some sacks other QBs don’t. Some of it is because he’s a pocket progression qb so he’s gonna stand in there and wait on some...

Ball security stuff was over blown. Still is.

Last 2 #1 picks both of which QBs have won the heisman

Considering we could end up at 7 after Sunday and outside the top 10 after cinci... losses

possible but staffords lost a lot of tbat early penchant in the pros. sane thing Philip Rivers had then he lost it for 2 years now he’s found it...

Yeah I meant to reference the prior post Darnold still hasn’t lost his penchant for tbe situational turnover he had in college

To add to this when Jackson misses he usually misses high. Too narrow a base

the way he’s passing it’s gonna be hard. Take a leg injury and lose some of that quick acceleration to top speed and I think the league catches up...

I don’t care about your real time game experience frankly. He missed throws in the first half of that cinci game execution wise he needed to make....

No the lowest point was the Tennessee game in week 5

Here’s the other thing about what we were trying to do those 5 weeks. They were coming set pre snap by design so that tanny if need to check out...

exactly. We were trying to run a new no huddle based offense out the gate even which rushed to the los so tanny could assess the d pre snap and...

I’m interested in hearing what the reasons were Ryan struggled for the first 5 weeks of the season in 2016.

Horrible at the beginning of what season? In 2016 the first 5 weeks gase scoffed at the media notion of benching him. Once he got hurt matt moore...

Yeah probably more if you can get there with 3 or 4 and play sticks concepts behind it on long downs and distances he’s gonna struggle. just like...

Benched for who? Matt moore? lol that was utter fabricated nonsense

Who was the Philly qb under chip kelly during the tempo based offense? Whoever that was (I feel like it was nick foles) had zero ability to check...

We used to boot by design even into unaccounted for edge defenders with free releases on repeat. Lol Mario Williams got paid by Miami because of...

What’s this wasn’t allowed to audible for 1.5 years stuff? He wasn’t allowed to audible the whole time lazor was here. We ran that chip kelly...

I’m sure the titans know they need to make resigning Derek Henry a priority to pair with tannehill. but in the event he prices himself out of...

Yeah whoever is running that pro day workout needs to test that arm for limitation with concepts outside the #s or breaking outside the numbers...

We aren’t getting squat from anything on the edge. Even biegel who is high effort and high motor has tapered off. Although I’d say that was...

Burrows exceptional post snap and has a real feel for pressure which is a big deal and probably will offset the arm limitations at times assuming...

In terms of truly stacked boxes 2017 under jay cutler that was the theme. Safeties within 10 yards of the los and Ajayi running into brick walls....

I think in terms of the way defensive coordinators play/gameplan vs the titans Henry is the focal point. but the titans can do a ton more things...

You don’t have to have a lot of success though to dictate to the opposition in terms of the way they play you. there was an awful lot of 8 man...

Wouldn’t that focal point be the same with Marcus mariota? Unless I’m mistaken Derrick Henry’s production was in the tank prior to tannehill...

I think you are low but we will see

My understanding is “fully guaranteed” means just that

You pay him market rate. Only question is how many years do you do it for and that in turn dictates guaranteed money. but I still say even on a...

I can respect an opinion but I broke down every snap that guy ever took in Miami and graded them even. Others know this. From pre to post snap to...

I don’t agree with that. Maybe not quite this out of the world current run he’s on in Tennessee but 2016 prior to injury he was playing at a plus...

And I’m a hell no on jalen hurts

I don’t have an issue with burrows release I just wonder how much defenses can clog the middle of the field between the hashes and take away...

Don’t agree with the processing speed stuff. In terms of going thru progressions. always thought that was overstated with Ryan. and I don’t care...

Loves got a ton of upside and the nfl loves upside when it comes to early pick QBs. tools and upside

I don’t think playoffs or no playoffs much matters. They will evaluate the qb for the qb. And imo come away with an easy decision to...pony up....

Not just around here lol

Not just jail break but outside and inside immediate pressure before his back foot could even hit

You might want to look at what nick foles got from the jags. And bump that

I think $30 mil per and $90 mil guaranteed over 3 years even is minimum. The shorter the term the more likely its fully guaranteed anything less...

you don’t know what bad o line play looks like then. I got 5 years of Miami tape of horrific o line play. Dallas thomas. The gift that kept on...

Don’t worry you will be paying him $100 plus mil soon. our never ending incompetence is your gain

No one seems to talk about burrows arm around here. how nothing conceptually at lsu is breaking outside the numbers. Most of the concepts are...

i find it hard to believe that the team would gut the roster the way it did and allow the possibility of being trumped for a qb. cinci yeah I’m...

I can promise you that if a guy comps rg3s season to what tannehill is doing in Tennessee this year you are wasting your time getting into meat...

out of that list who should miami even want. Old underperforming overrated or already dumped by this team outside of the draft players. what qb...

I find idc who is throwing the rock absurd

No you don’t. Flores shelf life is shorter than a rookie qb first round pick contract if he doesn’t get a difference maker at the position. all...

Wait shouright? As in shouwrong

Yeah it’s ignorant alright. Til we get to the draft weekend and they have to pony up all our assets to try and go get the qb cause we won...

More the threat of his legs was gone more than anything else. He outflanked defenses when his legs were right. Which taxed the hell out of dcs...

Rg3 ran to contact and couldn’t read the field to save his life. once his elite level quick acceleration threat was gone with his legs so was his...

Dude they aren’t even breaking stride lol to each his own I guess. Dropping balls to the tight end down the seam vs cover 2 on a pillow. Rolling...

Utter waste of time. Only thing it’s doing is screwing up our draft pick leverage for you know...a damn qb

I’d probably be more interested in that if the placement wasn’t spot on like every time. I mean he is putting the ball exactly where it needs to...

Or we can just put the pocket protectors away And stick to what the tape says

It appears that Miami decided it’s harder to find competent o line than it is franchise caliber pocket progression qb.

“Wait a good bit longer” ha ha. I’d recommend that you waive the white flag

Well the browns have a seriously overrated qb too. Not dak prescott level overrated but overrated none the less.

Meanwhile miamis got a noodle arm for the qb the fan base even wants to bring back for another year. lol. Can’t throw hell cant even call the...

Don’t look now but 390 and 3. A 118.5 passer rating in 2019. Only other qb to have a 130 plus passer rating and 75 percent completion percentage 3...

Mariota played like hot garbage that’s why tannehill took over.

Health and fitz willingness to throw the climb the ladder ball outside the numbers. which is minus the quick slant on 3rd down where a lot of...

It’s like a worst case scenario playing out in terms of short term. I understand establishing a culture and yada yada yada but this team needs...

And I will say this so people don’t think I’m just a tanny homer. Tannehill was a minus grade qb for Miami in 2018. I know that. I saw it on the...

Exactly

yep it was. But In terms of overall game that was the worst one tannehill has played as a starter. Still as accurate and placement wise as he’s...

keep moving the needle dj. I’m surprised you aren’t sitting this one out after your emphatic tannehill will do nothing but carry a clipboard in...

40 yard pass td on 3rd and 6 to ice it. ho hum 5 and 1

I don’t agree with that. They were gravitating to him just fine right before Calais Campbell’s cheap shot shredded his knee.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Gil_Brandt?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Check out Gil Brandt’s twitter post on tannehill...

He just needs to control what he can control. Playoffs when you start 2 and 4 none of your own doing mind you as justification is a little much.

Check out his qbr as a starter. only 5 games yes cause the titans went with trash mariota to start the year but it’s the highest in the league.

That strip sack wasn’t on Ryan tannehill. Come on man that’s a pa set up. He’s set up exactly depth wise where’s he’s supposed to. lol that’s on...

I just think he’s finally healthy and has gotten his timing back in terms of speed of the game and ball out of hand. you miss essentially 2.5...

Fully back to pre injury form. And the titans are loving it. he’s throwing decisive strikes and showing more off script than he ever did in...

Trust in Chris Grier? yeesh whatever the safe route is I’m sure he’s gonna go it. Easier to pass the buck that way.

Please Brian Flores no more Bobby blown coverage and contain mccain in Miami.

Exactly.

I quoted a post where you referenced 2012 to 2016.

You are the one that referenced 2012 to 2016 with Wilson and conveniently or maybe purposely left out any real world application of the...

All we had to do was put him where he could excel the most... full time free safety. but nope. Our loss is the Steelers gain.

Well I’m shocked frankly. Cause I sure can’t recall any defense ever being worth it’s salt. but we are talking about his rookie year when he was...

We bringing a top 5 defense and run game to the table? we aren’t. hells no

I hate the Wilson comparison. During those years they had not a good d but a 5 year run of pure all timer level d. they also had a league leader...

He’d get hit before his back foot could hit in his drop. Most of the time from both outside and inside immediate pressure. rush 3 drop 8 rush 4...

I’m not trying to remove the bad games the first 5 weeks but even his own coach said he was one of tbe most consistent players on the team during...

I don’t know this cannata dude is but he’s floating bs. They are taking qb top pick and they are all in on it. I bet ya they at least try to get...

Ehh the first 5 weeks of 2016 the team was a dumpster fire around the qb. that’s the only reason 2014 and 2016 were close in terms of his “best...

Titans have the 26th ranked run blocking o line and 31st ranked pass pro one this year according to pro football outsiders. Whether or not you buy...

He put a premium on size alone there. He’s clown shoes and I’m glad he’s long gone.

I could care less about stats or what a game winning drive constitutes. Despite these numbers backing up his level of play. I’ve seen all 4 starts...

The plan is to trade all our acquired draft assets in a move up for a qb. Of course those draft assets in Pittsburgh and Houston’s 1st rounders...

That’s some limb you’ve gone out on. Move the needle a little more. 3 game winning td drives in 4 games as a starter. That’s just facts.

“I watched the YouTube highlights” lol. Seems credible

Minshew will be benched soon enough and deservedly so.

Looks more natural. Off script 25 yard run last game. Another off script run for a td. just more natural. And he’s getting more consistent o line...

You are a year early with this

How bout Charles Harris the last 2 days. Any sub package looks with Harris over the center and Quinn and wake in wide 9 edges? I’m assuming the...

I would think tank would get the nod provided he doesn't blow assignments. which was really his only problem last year. I like lippett as the...

I believe this guy will lead the team in sacks this year. Take advantage of being on the field in the sub with wake and Quinn. A package similar...

I don’t know about the Damien Williams. To my eye he left a lot to be desired as a ball carrier. He seemed to be too patient and lacked vision....

Ok Jakeem Grant. Explain to me how he was mis used. Is that a not enough snaps reference or asked to do the wrong things one or not playing to...

Ty is definitely an exception.

examples please?

I think they carry 6 and if ford shows he can play specials it's his gig. In terms of caroo I doubt there is any takers in trade but it depends...

unless he's referring to tight sets I will believe it when I see it

I will stick with lbs being the biggest weakness. I'm not concerned about the o line and I know gase can scheme to limit it's exposure as a play...

Don’t know if it’s necessarily a concern given our wr depth but the biggest takeaway I have through 2 days is caroo is running with the 3rd team....

absolutely. post everything. and thanks chief

ahh good. he's wearing the lead leg brace

I’m with you on x. Only thing he has to be careful of is being stacked by vertical speed. I don’t buy the Bobby mccain boundary stuff. I think...

just keep the mission criticals healthy. that's all I care about in camp.

at no point have I argued who is more elite. and if I'm gonna make a point I'm gonna explain it. not one liner drive by it and hope it sticks. I...

it's the difference in concepts more than anything else. brady and Rodgers meal ticket is pocket qb play.

correct. that's because he's a different kind of threat with his legs. more pocket fit qb. in terms of pre snap and progression read no I don't...

seattle has tailored its offense around Russell Wilson more than green bay has around aaron Rodgers. Rodgers is a pocket qb that is also a threat...

if you aren't accounting for situational play Ie distance to the sticks etc then the whole thing is pointless now obviously some qbs are more...

They said he will be on his lead leg. Which I’m glad to hear. Hopefully he wears it in camp too.

It’s all good. Anyone who considers the offense ask and games to be similar with regards to Wilson and Aaron Rodgers I don’t need to be...

Too sluggish anyways Thumper type 2 down poor athlete for specials. Glad it wasn’t poling.

one moves well in the pocket one bails the pocket but anyways I waive the white flag. Rodgers does an excellent job of stepping up inside before...

That Seattle offense is designed heavily around the threat of Russell Wilson’s legs. Like very heavily. Carmen already noted the wider o line...

It’s sad no doubt. Wasn’t a very good coach though. Miamis had a train wreck of bad coaches through the years

The biggest system qbs are the ones that have to rely heavily on their legs. Cause once they go they don’t have any plan b.

Brady can run any pro style or from under center offense you want to dial up. Obviously zone read wouldn’t be as effective without the threat of...

Miller ran to contact in the open field.

This post pretty much explains it. That’s why I’m amazed that they scapegoated Darrell bevell. Lots of 4 vertical concept clear outs type stuff...

yep. I agree with that. that's why I was hesitant to put Rodgers on the list. but I believe and always will that pre snap and progression read is...

I’ve seen entire playoff games played with Wilson working off nothing but pa. I can’t tell ya how big a luxury that is. Those days are over though.

I’d agree on Brady and Rodgers

Drive the system and make the system are two different things. Peyton Manning is the only qb I can think of who literally created the system....

disagree

I agree with that and he knows how to strike when the iron is hot. Cause he was doing some real shady stuff at usc and it was closing in on him.

Yeah but the system was driving the qb and not the qb driving the system and that’s the difference

The only thing I think ryan Tannehill gained in his lazor years was he pivoted thru is progressions more efficiently and squared his shoulders to...

Nice. And I’m hoping that “Omaha” calls that I heard from Ryan on that mic video during otas and mini camp was about dummy snap counts. Just...

gonna make that rockets team even a harder watch for a non rockets fan

carrolls a players coach that relies heavily on his coordinators. motivator absolutely. he jumps around chews gum like a family guy character but...

well played

well I only watch the Celtics games and the nba playoffs so take anything I say nba wise with a grain of salt. by and large lol hell I even...

it's a non issue until the vets arrive.

and I don't have a problem with that either and I did a bunch of it at the other site. a whole bunch. what I don't have time for is the trolling...

ehh I'm not mad at anyone dad.

yeah propped up mike hull and hated kiko

it's not him. cause the other guy would have never accounted for what was around kiko in his assessment.

ask him what he thinks of kiko Alonzo. that will tell me we had royal battles over him

I haven't been in club but I'd agree with that from what I've seen out here.

my delivery is blunt like a hammer at times. that's the part that gets me in trouble. have to be mindful of that

thank you I'm jumping in. whether they want me there or not. lol

yeah I don't buy into that stuff at all. I used to break down Miami offense tape on the other site on a play by play basis and grade the qb on...

I'm with Carmen. the x's and o's is what I care about.

no but I am saying that because of the time I spend and how much I love the game etc. if I get the feeling someone's just way off I'm probably not...

what record are you referring to? lol

who said anything about "every opinion?" I saw something that didn't add up for me I asked for examples given this. I think there should be a...

it doesn't require it but I think if you want to be taken as credible you should be willing to back up your stance with more than the "if you...

every year I buy a new visor. it's about as far as I go. haven't worn a player jersey since I was in my 20's

https://www.miamidolphins.com/video/mic-d-up-presented-by-gatorade-ryan-tannehill Been waiting a LONG time for this.

Brandon cooks just got 5 years and $81 million. The finesse in the stem and at the top of routes all vertical wr who Xavien Howard locked down....

Ehh. Not really. Hoops is my nickname from way back.

what's caroo even doing on this list? the difference is to date dcs haven't been working to take away these guys. well dvp makes em nervous but...

ask dcs what they think about dealing with Edelman and gronk gameplan wise. you get a pre injury health wise Edelman back you let amendola walk.

yeah but Edelman would have made a lot more money on the market had he let himself hit instead of taking the bird in hand route. assuming health...

it's not that simple. if after a couple weeks grant is putting those type of numbers together every dc in football is gonna work to take him...

too much to ask for you to spot check Julian edelmans ypc averages? keeping in mind that he probably comes from the best scheme in terms of...

if they rotate personnel like hockey line changes just with a possession by possession basis being the actual change coupled with that tempo we...

That’s fair but I think it can be said that in say 3 years he will be closer to top 20 than top 5 highest paid wr. Cleveland may have already...

Ok so we are gonna say that about Jarvis and admittedly it’s hard to argue with that graphic. But if I was gonna argue it in terms of ypc in...

I'm not sure who that was but I can assure you that anytime anyone wants to break down tape to find out what I know relative to what they know I'm...

I already told you the qb play, the fact that Travis kelce and tyreek Hill were out there for dcs to have to deal with and the scheme. And...

you don't want to know what my translation for that "if you can't see it" stuff is. i'm in this buffalo tape right now. anybody got anything...

You think I’m trolling? Lmao buddy there’s no bigger losers in life than cats who troll on a damn message board.

You are telling me I am hitting you with fluff and you are dropping stuff on me like every single skill player on the team would have done more...