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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Rouk, Jan 23, 2022.
I guess greenbay defenders are wasting their careers with rodgers.
Rodgers definitely should have done a better job on that blocked punt that resulted in a TD.
Seriously?? You're comparing Tua to Aaron Rodgers now? C'mon man.
When you can post reports (even rumors) of Rodgers' teammates saying stuff like "he can't make every throw" or "he's only going to take us so far" or "I'm wasting my career here" then let's have that conversation.
Oh, and Rodgers won a SB throwing 3 TD passes and being a key reason for GB winning the SB. He also played really well in many (not all) of GB's recent playoff losses. Last year he threw for 3 TDs and 1 INT with a 101.6 rating in the loss to Tampa. Can't really put that on Rodgers. If you have a chance to replace Tua with Rodgers you do that immediately. Then WE can finally be SB contenders!
Wow!I can't even respond to this.
17 years and only one Super Bowl. Think of all those careers he wasted.
Wish the “unnamed player” had the courage to go public
Yeah, I've no interest in this sort of talk. This could be all sorts things depending on context vs quotation, mindset/mood etc. And even if totally genuine and accurate it could be sour grapes.
Tua has to hear people talking behind his back...
I don't care if this guy (if he exists) is right, you're a professional, do your job, be a good teammate, raise your concerns with the relevant GM or coach, and honour your contract.
This is just cheapshot clickbait.
And more proof of the dysfunction of this franchise.
It could be Jaelan Phillips he'd be traded for a 5th immediately. Lol Fat cats can't admit Tua is no Mahommes like they had hoped, ooops.
Yeah, we all said Tua = Mahomes
A bit of grain of salt - this is coming from Omar Kelly.
Russell Wilson? I think that was the general hype for him going into that draft if I'm not mistaken. He aint one dem boys. Gon' have to get over it.
I think a poor man's Drew Brees was the general consensus.
LOL. Now that's funny.
That's a recalculation by Tua fanboys. You don't waste a 5th overall pick on a poor man's Drew Brees.
Can you remind me where Drew Brees was picked?
Edit: And, how many years it was before he became elite?
I feel you. Watching Allen and Mahomes. It's clear he's wasting my fandom.
Well look if we're being honest with ourselves here I'm sure it's not just one player thinking that right now. If this story is indeed true (Omar Kelly) then thats a pretty telling indictment of our current QB situation. Likely also puts some truth to the story that came out on Flores being upset with Tua's preparation or lack thereof during the week. Where there's smoke there's typically fire, but in this case it's Omar setting the fire however I'm not so sure this kind of comment from another player would be hard to believe especially given how the defense carried this team again this year.
The story doesn't even make sense. How is it even possible with free agency? It is just some guy venting. It is not being honest with ourselves, it is just being honest with the fact that players are not in charge of the development of people who are not them, and are wrong just as much as fans when it comes to player development. In fact, is there a less informed player than one on the starting defense? His job is to look on the outside, not look at the inside.
Anybody hear Tuas name when they just mentioned the great young QBs in AFC?
They of course said Mahomes,Allen,Burrow,Herbert but no mention of Tua.I wonder why?
Where was this defensive player when we let the Raiders score 31 points on us? Or the Bucs score 45? When did his career become all that great? Our defense was way overrated.
It's just effin stupid to put that kind of anonymous quote out there. There are plenty of QBs that didn't light the world on fire this year, yet it seems to only be one disgruntled player on Miami that feels the need to throw that kind of comment out?
Seriously, shut the EFF up and either demand a trade or release if you can't handle your job. Whining to the media like a B**ch.
Anyone else remember Elandon Roberts on the sideline with Tua? I'll take that over anonymous quotes.
Best new member ever. I'd like to say Buffalo stole our future (win or lose) but Beavis and Grievus gave it away.
I wish he was a poor man’s drew brees.. he is closer to Pat White than Drew Brees.
I heard that and just started laughing
Because we WASTED a top 5 pick on an average at best QB. I used to get very upset over this team. Now I just laugh about it. It's better for my mental health
It will be sad when we find out it was Waddle who said it.
Canez, you constantly…CONSTANTLY belly ache with “we wasted a top 5 pick”…its like a broken record with you. If I were to do a search in the forums for “we wastes a top 5 pick”, your name would come up a gazillion times. Now with that being said…
Drafting a quarterback in the top 10, or top 5 for that matter is ALWAYS a craps shoot. Going back 20 years and looking at every quarterback drafted that high…
Robert Griffin III
ALL 39 of these quarterbacks were selected in the top 10 of their respective drafts. Cut this list down to the top 5 of their drafts and it becomes a who’s who list of mostly nobodies.
On the flip side of this same coin, shuffle some of these draft picks around…
Mahomes gets drafted by Chicago instead of Trubitsky. Anyone truly think with how dysfunctional the Bears are that he’s going to be just as successful?
Mayfield gets drafted by the Jets instead of Darnold. Mayfield still going to have the success he’s had? Or even Josh Allen for that matter?
And finally, had Justin Herbert been drafted by the Dolphins instead of Tagovailoa…does anyone really truly think we would be any better off?
The two points I’m making here is one, the draft is no guarantee. Of the 39 quarterbacks drafted in The top 10 over the last 20 years, only a handful are household names and even fewer have reached the top of Mount Lombardi. There’s no guarantee.
Secondly, those who have had that success are/were on great teams with great coaches that set them up for that success…even that scrub Eli Manning (sarcasm). To play could’ve should’ve would’ve is silly. With the Dolphins being such a jacked up, horse’s a$$ dysfunctional organization that it is, NONE of these 39 quarterbacks would have made a bit of difference in our tarnished recent history.
After watching what Mahomes has done now for several years, and watching the amazing QB talent on display last night, you still think Mahomes would not have played like an elite QB on the Bears or the Dolphins or helped vastly increase win%?? No.. Mahomes' talent is due to the rest of the team, not Mahomes lol. It's amazing how you can continue to hold such ridiculous positions. It's ignoring reality. If we had drafted Herbert we would be in the playoffs, not sitting here having arguments over Tua. If we had taken Mahomes, we'd be perennial SB contenders, not perennially mediocre.
Again, though I'm not listing all the examples I've listed over the years, the best evidence for what a QB can do is when an elite QB changes teams. The best example is Peyton going to Denver. Coach didn't change, most of the rest of the team didn't either, and they go from a consistently ranked bottom 1/3 offense to top 2 for 3 years in a row!! But no, according to you it's the rest of the "team" not the QB.
So with your logic, no GM should ever be held accountable for making bad picks, since its all just a crap shoot right?
And Yes, Herbert would have been successful here as well, certainly would have played a lot better that Tia has, and Allen would have been successful pretty much anywhere he went, same with Mahomes. They might not have had quite the overall success they've had so far, but they would have played great none the less. Truly great players always shine through, regardless of adversity.
Tua is no that type of great player unfortunately, and Grier deserves all the **** he gets for making a dumb pick, among his many dumb picks and decisions.
Yet again, you all COMPLETELY missed the point
YES!!! A thousand times YESSSS!!! I DO believe the Dolphins would be better off had they drafted Herbert instead of Tua. Then. Now. And, for the next 10-15 years!!!
You should ignore those kinds of questions.. … guys, Herbert was drafted and went 7-9 his first season, they fired the coach after his rookie season and he still produced massive numbers his second year under a new system, which hes bound to master that system this offseason.
yes, herbert would have made the difference.
can we stop with the drew brees comparisons when evaluating short quarterbacks btw? Drew was very accurate, very intelligent on the field, had off the charts mechanics. He can come out of retirement right now and he would have a stronger arm than Tua, and Drew’s arm wasnt even that strong..