16.5 Million in Dead Cap Space

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Vinny FinsVinny Finsforum_veteranOP
Sep 4, 2012, 04:09 PM

YES.

We finally are among the league leaders in a stat.

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BigDogsHuntBigDogsHuntNew Member
Sep 4, 2012, 04:12 PM

Here's to 2013 !!!! :beer:

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Vinny FinsVinny Finsforum_veteran
Sep 4, 2012, 04:13 PM

Cap Space, Dead is our highest paid player.

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finyank13finyank13New Member
Sep 4, 2012, 04:15 PM

IRISH says not so fast...

Ben Volin ‏@BenVolinPBP Garrard will still count $1 million against the cap this year in dead money



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BigDogsHuntBigDogsHuntNew Member
Sep 4, 2012, 04:16 PM

Do have a listing of names who make up this DEAD CAP?

BDH -

"To me, there are three things we all should do every day of our lives. Number one is laugh. You should laugh every day. Number two is think. You should spend some time in thought. And Number three is, you should have your emotions moved to tears, could be happiness or joy.

"If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special."

Jimmy V. (Mar '93)

Vinny FinsVinny Finsforum_veteran
Sep 4, 2012, 04:18 PM

"BigDogsHunt wrote:

Do have a listing of names who make up this DEAD CAP?

From http://nyjetscap.com/Dolphins/dolphins2012.php

Marshall, Brandon WR $5,550,000
Carey, Vernon OL $4,800,000
Bell, Yeremiah S $1,850,000
Davis, Vontae CB $1,111,250
Dobbins, Tim LB $600,000
Edds, A.J. LB $238,500
Culver, Tyrone S $125,000
Roth, Matt LB $123,500
Gates, Edmond WR $113,287
Cook, Ryan OL $112,500
Johnson, Tyrell S $65,000
Guyton, Gary LB $65,000
Kaddu, Josh LB $46,685
Cunningham, BJ WR $26,550
Kearse, Frank DT $23,576
Barker, Will OL $15,000
Pruitt, Julius WR $15,000
Feinga, Leimoni OL $15,000
Wade, Jonathan CB $12,500
Restelli, Mark LB $6,667
Devlin, Patrick QB $4,000
Jones, D.J. OL $3,667
Wallace, Roberto WR $3,334
Agnew, Vince CB $2,667
Grisby, Nic RB $2,667
Perez, Jose CB $2,667
Freeny, Jonathan LB $2,667
Westerman, Jamaal LB $2,500
Baker, Ryan DE $2,500
Brackett, Brett TE $2,334
Chisolm, Garrett OL $2,000
Jones, Johnny DT $1,667
Lyons, Shelly LB $1,500
Smith, Jacquies DE $1,500
Scott, Kevyn CB $1,500
Root, Jarrell DE $1,500
McDonald, Andrew T $1,500
Hughes, Trenton CB $1,500
Fuller, Jeff WR $1,500
Derek, Dennis G $1,500
Alecxih, Chas DT $1,500
Collins, Cameron LB $1,500
Waldron, Dustin T $1,500
Spears, Quinton LB $1,000
Brown, Les TE $833
Livas, Phillip WR $667

Add another 1 MILLION for David Garrard and our total is:

$16,359,685

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HardKoreXXXHardKoreXXXNew Member
Sep 4, 2012, 04:18 PM

If I were good at Photoshop, I'd somehow turn this into something some may find amusing.

Alas, I am not.

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HardKoreXXXHardKoreXXXNew Member
Sep 4, 2012, 04:20 PM

That lists Pat Devlin. He hasn't been cut has he?

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Vinny FinsVinny Finsforum_veteran
Sep 4, 2012, 04:22 PM

"HardKoreXXX wrote:

That lists Pat Devlin. He hasn't been cut has he?

Practice Squad =/= 53 Man Roster Spot = Dead Cap Space

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LBLBsFinestNew Member
Sep 4, 2012, 04:24 PM

extension for Ireland!!!!!!!!

MonstBlitzMonstBlitzforum_veteran
Sep 4, 2012, 04:24 PM

But don't forget about those "coupla picks". Irish will turn those into FUTURE DEAD CAP SPACE!

smahtazsmahtazforum_veteran
Sep 4, 2012, 04:25 PM

Damn, can't they beat the Patriots at anything - $18.44M

http://nyjetscap.com/Patriots/patriots2012.php



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Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Sep 4, 2012, 04:27 PM

"Vinny Fins wrote:

YES.

We finally are among the league leaders in a stat.

How do you know we are the league leaders in that?

finyank13finyank13New Member
Sep 4, 2012, 04:27 PM

5.5M for Marshall and 2-3rd's....the guy is going to have 1400 yards and 10+tds....:pity:

With friends like these it isn't to hard to figure out why they are in the predicament...

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ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Sep 4, 2012, 04:51 PM

Serious question, does anyone know where that stands relative to the rest of the league? It would appear the Pats have a bigger number.

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ANAnonymoussubscriber
Sep 4, 2012, 05:01 PM

"ckparrothead wrote:

Serious question, does anyone know where that stands relative to the rest of the league? It would appear the Pats have a bigger number.

I don't know about the whole league, but I know the Colts have like 35 million in dead space.

You can check on Spotrac.com. I'm not sure how accurate they are, though.

jboogiejboogieforum_veteran
Sep 4, 2012, 05:03 PM

This really makes me question the Y. Bell move, what was the urgency to dump even if we had to carry that much cash???

Stringer BellStringer Bellsubscriber
Sep 4, 2012, 05:03 PM

"ckparrothead wrote:

Serious question, does anyone know where that stands relative to the rest of the league? It would appear the Pats have a bigger number.

I sure hope whomever labeled us as having the most in the league knows where we stand relative to the rest of the league. Surely that would be a logical expectation.

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ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Sep 4, 2012, 05:03 PM

"Anonymous wrote:

I don't know about the whole league, but I know the Colts have like 35 million in dead space.

You can check on Spotrac.com. I'm not sure how accurate they are, though.

That would make sense. The Colts just had a new GM take over. You expect a lot of turnover in that situation.

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unluckylucianounluckylucianoNew Member
Sep 4, 2012, 05:04 PM

"Vinny Fins wrote:

Practice Squad =/= 53 Man Roster Spot = Dead Cap Space

so since he's the number 3 now?

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ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Sep 4, 2012, 05:06 PM

Dead cap is an indictment on previous decision making. It's not surprising for a team like the Colts to have a lot of dead cap because they don't particularly mind the inevitable criticism of previous personnel decisions that comes with that. Ryan Grigson can just say I wasn't here yet and I can't speak to what the Polians did before I got here.

Teams like the Patriots and Dolphins that have continuity in their personnel departments, that's usually not a great sign.

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ToddPhinToddPhinluxury_box
Sep 4, 2012, 05:07 PM

"LBsFinest wrote:

extension for Ireland!!!!!!!!

Another dumb statement. If you're gonna blame Ireland for all of that then perhaps you should blame him for John Beck, too, and every other failed player brought in when Ireland wasn't here.

Ireland didn't draft Vernon Carey, and Ireland didn't force Carey to become a useless slob. That $4.8M is on Carey. In the end it saved us future cap space IIRC.
Ireland didn't force Marshall to become a distraction & hinderance to the team. That $5.6M is on Marshall; however, that $5.6M dead space this year helps us have the appealing $40.0M in space next year.
The $1.8M hit from Bell allows us to have more space next year.
Ireland didn't force Vontae to give less than 100% to the team. If he worked as hard as he was being paid to work he'd still be here and there'd be no $1.1M cap hit. Vontae put himself into the position to get traded.

HardKoreXXXHardKoreXXXNew Member
Sep 4, 2012, 05:17 PM

"phinsational wrote:

Another dumb statement. If you're gonna blame Ireland for all of that then perhaps you should blame him for John Beck, too, and every other failed player brought in when Ireland wasn't here.

Ireland didn't draft Vernon Carey, and Ireland didn't force Carey to become a useless slob. That $4.8M is on Carey. In the end it saved us future cap space IIRC.
Ireland didn't force Marshall to become a distraction & hinderance to the team. That $5.6M is on Marshall; however, that $5.6M dead space this year helps us have the appealing $40.0M in space next year.
The $1.8M hit from Bell allows us to have more space next year.
Ireland didn't force Vontae to give less than 100% to the team. If he worked as hard as he was being paid to work he'd still be here and there'd be no $1.1M cap hit. Vontae put himself into the position to get traded.

I didn't know Jeff Ireland's mom posted here. Nice to meet you, Ma'am. I think your son is a crappy GM.

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ToddPhinToddPhinluxury_box
Sep 4, 2012, 05:28 PM

"HardKoreXXX wrote:

I didn't know Jeff Ireland's mom posted here. Nice to meet you, Ma'am. I think your son is a crappy GM.

If you want to blame Ireland for each time you stub your toe or run over a nail then that's your prerogative. I'm a little more realistic than that.

DuckenDuckenluxury_box
Sep 4, 2012, 05:30 PM

"HardKoreXXX wrote:

I didn't know Jeff Ireland's mom posted here. Nice to meet you, Ma'am. I think your son is a crappy GM.

Uncalled for, just because his view is different then yours is no need to get snippy. IMHO he has had some failures for sure and he has had some HR too. The water is very muddy on his 1st few years here and I am just going to base my opinion on him on the past two drafts and forward. Plus you have to factor in a whole new O and D and the fact some players just do not fit very well with the change, so there has to be some consideration to that. It is MY belief he will do just fine if given a chance and in a few years there will be threads about how lucky we he was retained and not let go like the fans wanted. JMHO

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