2009/2010 Mets. The Jerry is gone version!
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Johan Santana told the Mets on Sunday there was no need to have his left elbow examined in New York, as the club had planned. Because the weather would have made travel problematic and because the pitcher's read of his own body was positive, the club canceled its flight arrangements and the examination.
Santana will remain in St. Lucie, and will resume his preparation for the season later this week when he throws again in the bullpen. He threw 31 pitches Sunday in his first bullpen session since Wednesday and said he felt fine.


What the heck will the NY Post or the Daily News or Newsday have to gloom and doom about on the back page? I guess they will find something to try and seel some more papers.
Where' Billy Wagner when you need him? :shifty:
Mets' Putz blows save for Team USA
J.J. Putz - R - NYM - Mar. 4 - 5:29 pm et
J.J. Putz took the loss for Team USA after surrendering three runs in the ninth Wednesday against the Blue Jays.
Putz had a chance to close out a 5-3 lead, but he couldn't hold it against a series of Triple-A players, giving up three hits and two walks while retiring just two batters. Mar. 4 - 5:29 pm et
"Roman529 wrote:
Where' Billy Wagner when you need him? :shifty:
Mets' Putz blows save for Team USA
J.J. Putz - R - NYM - Mar. 4 - 5:29 pm et
J.J. Putz took the loss for Team USA after surrendering three runs in the ninth Wednesday against the Blue Jays.
Putz had a chance to close out a 5-3 lead, but he couldn't hold it against a series of Triple-A players, giving up three hits and two walks while retiring just two batters. Mar. 4 - 5:29 pm et
Ya best he gets it out of his system now. I mean 3rd outing of the spring so frankly its not a big deal.
I like that Johan is throwing a bullpen session again tomorrow and based on everything I have read seems intent on being ready for the opener. Be afraid. :shifty:
Did you guys watch Team USA play Team Canada in the WBC yesterday?
The announcer said, "Putz is about to blow this save despite Rollins making a great play to bail him out." :yes:
The announcer said, "That's why the Mets go home every year and the Phils win championships," after Rollins play. :tongue2:
I'm loving the WBC, but I can't help but shake my head every time Matt Lindstrom and Heath Bell come in. I mean, two of the best relievers in baseball, and we got a big sack of nothing for them.
In Omar's defense, Jason Vargas looked like the better prospect than Lindstrom at the time, but the focus of the deal was actually Vargas for Henry Owens. Lindstrom was something of a throw-in. If they'd just done the damn Vargas for Owens swap, everything would have been fine. What really galls me was that Minaya made three deals within a couple weeks of each other: Lindstrom/Owens for Vargas/Bostick, Bannister for Burgos and Bell/Ring for Adkins/Johnson. At the time, the deals looked essentially like shuffling the deck for the sake of shuffling the deck. There was no cohesion there. No plan to speak of. "Bannister doesn't have great stuff, so let's trade him for a guy who does." Um, you just gave up two hard-throwing righties with great stuff in other deals.
Every one of those three deals was an unqualified disaster. Not a Zambrano for Kazmir level disaster, but sometimes it's the little deals that bite you in the ass. Only Vargas and Bostick are still with the organization, and both have AAAA stamped on their forehead.
"phunwin wrote:
I'm loving the WBC, but I can't help but shake my head every time Matt Lindstrom and Heath Bell come in. I mean, two of the best relievers in baseball, and we got a big sack of nothing for them.
In Omar's defense, Jason Vargas looked like the better prospect than Lindstrom at the time, but the focus of the deal was actually Vargas for Henry Owens. Lindstrom was something of a throw-in. If they'd just done the damn Vargas for Owens swap, everything would have been fine. What really galls me was that Minaya made three deals within a couple weeks of each other: Lindstrom/Owens for Vargas/Bostick, Bannister for Burgos and Bell/Ring for Adkins/Johnson. At the time, the deals looked essentially like shuffling the deck for the sake of shuffling the deck. There was no cohesion there. No plan to speak of. "Bannister doesn't have great stuff, so let's trade him for a guy who does." Um, you just gave up two hard-throwing righties with great stuff in other deals.
Every one of those three deals was an unqualified disaster. Not a Zambrano for Kazmir level disaster, but sometimes it's the little deals that bite you in the ass. Only Vargas and Bostick are still with the organization, and both have AAAA stamped on their forehead.
It is sad!!
I have watched a few games in the WBC, they have been good. I didn't watch any last year.
Boy were they killing Luis Sojo (Or how ever you spell it) last night. It was a bonehead move using both pitchers against Italy.


There's a time and place for stuff like the wbc and its called the olympics. I would not and will not ever watch the wbc unless the only other options were golf and lifetime tv. Id rather watch c-span for 68 straight days then a fake a competition which the majority of the population could care less about.
As far as Bell and Lindstrom go those deals look awful in retrospect because they are but one can always question whether those two pitches would ever ave attained that level of success with the Mets because they certainly were not on track. Bell hated NY, hated pitching here, hated Peterson. Lindstrom we tried like hell to teach him a slider orand every other kind of breaking and off speed pitch and he couldnt figure it out; its not Omar's fault the guy couldnt follow directions.
Steve phillips was on 1050 ESPn yesterday and said the Mets should sign Pedro who looks great, he said he is hitting the low 90's and his arm is back over his head (it wasn't last year) on his release making his curve that much better.
He also said we should sign Pudge who has been pounding the ball and seems willing to take any deal to get back into the league.


"phunwin wrote:
You beat me, I just saw it scroll on the bottom of the Mexico WBC game.


Maine got tattooed again today.
I really think we are going to have to call Pedro. Garcia, Hernandez and Reading are just not going to do it.


"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:
Steve phillips was on 1050 ESPn yesterday and said the Mets should sign Pedro who looks great, he said he is hitting the low 90's and his arm is back over his head (it wasn't last year) on his release making his curve that much better.
He also said we should sign Pudge who has been pounding the ball and seems willing to take any deal to get back into the league.
For that reason alone i don't want either.
Watching Pedro pitch now, the guy looks good, two shut out innings so far!


Tony Sparano is a big Met's fan:
:pity:
"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:
Steve phillips was on 1050 ESPn yesterday and said the Mets should sign Pedro who looks great, he said he is hitting the low 90's and his arm is back over his head (it wasn't last year) on his release making his curve that much better.
He also said we should sign Pudge who has been pounding the ball and seems willing to take any deal to get back into the league.
At this point ya, Id have to take Pedro over Livan or Garcia. Garcia just looks done. Redding hasnt looked that bad but Id prefer him as the long man/emergency starter.
As far as Pudge, he would make sense if we can unload Castro somewhere. Castro though posts a higher OPS and has better defensive skills. Still if we could upgrade a corner OF spot (Nady?) it would make a lot of sense. :hi5:
"phunwin wrote:
Now he can take all the 2AM cab rides he wants....
"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:
Maine got tattooed again today.
I really think we are going to have to call Pedro. Garcia, Hernandez and Reading are just not going to do it.
Maine is a mental mess right now which worries me. He's an important piece of this rotation and just seemed to be getting his command back early in the spring. He was actually pitching better further down in the zone then at any point in his tenure as a met. He's always going to be a mental gring but he's capable of great things. A couple of years ago in 07 he had a 180k in 190IP and he can do better then that.
"Roman529 wrote:
Tony Sparano is a big Met's fan:
:pity:
Smart guy... :tongue2:
"Ray Finkle wrote:
Worst cab ride ever?
Certainly the worst that didn't involve Travis Bickle.
johan pitching tonight...its on sny now if youre interested...
Just wondering where Roman is with the news about Hamels. He likes to rip on the Met fans when their team is down, I hope he's not on suicide watch right now.
"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:
What happened to Hamels?
Went back to Philly to have his elbow checked out.
"Ray Finkle wrote:
Went back to Philly to have his elbow checked out.
I dont wish injury on anyone but if the Phils lose hamels for any significant length of time they are toast. Hamels is their only legit SP, the rest are trash.
"Ray Finkle wrote:
Just wondering where Roman is with the news about Hamels. He likes to rip on the Met fans when their team is down, I hope he's not on suicide watch right now.
It was just an inflammation and I don't rip the Mets when they are down....I just point out some things that could make it tough on their team. :tongue2:
You won't see me kicking anyone when they are down. Sounds like Hamels and Santana both have elbow problems.....probably from throwing a lot of pitches last year and then trying to get back into game shape. We didn't have Lidge at the beginning of the last year and it turned out ok. Injuries happen in baseball, always have, always will. I think the difference is the Phillies have a lot more depth with their starters this year and can go with Happ, Kendrick or Chan Ho Park as their 5th starter. We also got rid of Eaton. :up:
I did feel kind of dirty cheering on David Wright when Team USA beat Team Puerto Rico tonight....and Beltran did make a very nice catch over the wall in CF. That's the only time I will be cheering for Wright. :shifty:
"Boik14 wrote:
I dont wish injury on anyone but if the Phils lose hamels for any significant length of time they are toast. Hamels is their only legit SP, the rest are trash.
I can say the exact same thing in regards to Johan Santana. :yes: