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2010 GM League Franchise/RFA Numbers

Discussion in '2010 GM League Forum' started by GridIronKing34, Jan 27, 2010.

  1. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    What is the point of the Franchise and Transition Tags?
    Well if you want to keep a free agent on your team so he does not hit the open market, you can put your franchise tag or transition tag on him. Teams have one of each tag so you may tag up to two players.

    What's the difference between the Franchise tag and the Transition tag?
    When you tag someone with a franchise tag, teams can offer that player a contract, but must give up two first round picks in compensation. If you do not have two first round picks, you can always try to trade with the team after the player officially becomes a member of the team who franchised him. When you tag someone with the transition tag, teams can offer that player a contract without worrying about giving up compensation. Basically a franchise tag means that teams must give up compensation if they want to offer that player a contract, but in a transition tag, teams do not have to give up any compensation.

    Can you franchise someone who isn't a free agent?
    Sorry GISH, as much as you'd like to do a cut and franchise method with either McNabb or Peters, it cannot happen.

    A special thanks goes out to VO for compiling these numbers in 5 minutes in what would have taken me 30 minutes.... and because our salary cap is rather low compared to last year because of all the free agents, I decided that we would use the franchise tag numbers as they were meant to be used... so the top five average of each position for the franchise tag and top ten average of each position for transition tag. Here are the numbers:

    Quarterbacks
    Franchise: $11,928,818.00
    Transition: $9,439,997.00

    Running Backs
    Franchise: $4,190,000.00
    Transition: $3,517,875.00

    Wide Receivers
    Franchise: $5,353,000.00
    Transition: $4,888,500.00

    Tight Ends
    Franchise: $3,864,000.00
    Transition: $3,268,500.00

    Offensive Linemen
    Franchise: $7,160,000.00
    Transition: $6,045,000.00

    Defensive Ends
    Franchise: $5,524,000.00
    Transition: $4,577,000.00

    Defensive Tackles
    Franchise: $4,270,000.00
    Transition: $3,611,600.00

    Linebackers
    Franchise: $5,885,000.00
    Transition: $4,897,500.00

    Cornerbacks
    Franchise: $5,700,000.00
    Transition: $4,875,000.00

    Safeties
    Franchise: $4,194,000.00
    Transition: $3,270,000.00

    Punters/Kickers
    Franchise: $1,705,000.00
    Transition: $1,573,750.00

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    Restricted Free Agency
    Teams with RFAs (players with 3 years of NFL service or less) have the opportunity to tender them. You can tender your RFAs any time from now until the start of free agency. You place the tender amount on an RFA and similar to the franchise tag, he will go through 24 hours of free agency. When the 24 hours are up, if another team has offered that RFA a contract, then the team can choose to match the offer or let the RFA go and take select compensation. If a player does not receive an offer from another team, then he will stay on his original team for the salary given to him. Teams can trade their restricted free agents AFTER the first 24 hours in free agency.

    Restricted Free Agent Tender Amounts
    $2,600,000.00 - 1st & 3rd round tender
    $2,100,000.00 - 1st round tender
    $1,500,000.00 - 2nd round tender
    $900,000.00 - Determined by RFA's original draft status

    Example of RFA Procedure
    The Miami Dolphins place a 2nd round tender on Davone Bess. During the 24 hour period, the Chicago Bears offer Davone Bess a $2,000,000.00 contract. 24 hours after the start of free agency, Chicago's offer is still the highest. The Dolphins have the option to take Chicago's 2nd round pick or match the $2,000,000.00 contract.
     
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  2. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Some of those are pretty cheap.
     
  3. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You can thank peyton and his 18,000,000m cap number for that insane qb tag number
     
  4. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    If you want to trade him, I'll welcome him and his ridiculous cap with open arms. :)
     
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  5. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    The Bucs offer a second rounder and Josh Freeman for Peyton Manning.

    And a Jar of Salsa.
     
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  6. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I'll offer a Publix Sub, Tostitos and Queso Dip.
     
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  7. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Id give him every Draft pick this year and next.
    Can you imagine Manning throwing to Fitz, Boldin Breaston and Doucett?....... :yes: :hump:
     
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  8. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    Tostidos Queso Dip >>>> Any Salsa.
     
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  9. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Btw, GIK, are all RFA's changed to UFA's in the GM League?
     
  10. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    A Jar of Salsa?

    What the heck do they know about Salsa in Valhalla... :pity:

    Get a rope.....
     
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  11. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    No, just the ones who were RFAs because of the no CBA clause... so guys like Ronnie Brown and Anthony Fasano who would usually be UFAs, but are RFAs in the NFL because of no CBA... are back to UFAs.
     
  12. Skeet84

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    Only the ones that would be Free Agents if a new CBA was agreed to. So still some RFA's
     
  13. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If you two combined your teams and the draft picks MAYBE I would consider trading you each a quarter of Peyton's left toenail. :pointlol:
     
  14. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    I've worked with Alen. I won't work with him again. Dude's a slavedriver. Seriously.
     
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  15. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I have gathered as much but I expected nothing less. :lol:
     
  16. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    What do franchise and transition tags mean? I ask because I don't think it's been posted...
     
  17. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    can we franchise someone who isnt a free agent?
    PLEASE!!!!!
     
  18. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    :headscratch:
     
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  19. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    I added a little something to the original post. Enjoy. :yes:
     
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  20. azfinfanmang

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    Uhhhmmm. What?

    So, a transition tag is basically useless? Wouldnt I be better off letting them go via FA and then get in the bidding war?
     
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  21. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Yeah... pretty much. But you have the right to match after 24 hours.
     
  22. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Just to follow up on the transition tag... are we allowing teams to bid within that first 24 hour period of FA and then if nobody places a bid, that player becomes a member of the original team? Right of first refusal. What if two other teams are bidding on a transition tagged player? Also, the assumption is the bid must be more than the transition tag $ amount itself? I'm more interested in the transition tag this year because I feel it will come into play (as opposed to my previous two years).
     
  23. alen1

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    I dunno what a slavedriver is but sweeet!
     
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  24. azfinfanmang

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    Can it go into a bidding frenzy anyways?
    If so, it really isn't any different than just putting them out on FA?
     
  25. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    sometimes franchising a player is cheaper than keeping him under contract.
     
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  26. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    :pointlol:
     
  27. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Transition tag is pointless now.
     
  28. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I think it has a use if defined correctly... say there's a bidding war between two other teams which then ends with a "winner"... the original team, the team that tagged their player can match the "winning" bid and retain the player.
     
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  29. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Let me explain this fully.

    A player that has been franchise or transition tagged will go through for free agency for 24 hours. Teams can bid on a player who has been tagged within that 24 hour mark. After the 24 hour mark, then I will take the highest offer and the team who put the tag on that player can choose to match it... or take compensation.

    You don't see many people use the transition tag in the NFL (some teams have, Max Starks is the first one that comes to mind) so I don't understand why people ***** about it's effectiveness. It's just an option you have...
     
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  30. alen1

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    You note that we receive compensation if our franchise player was bid on and taken off our roster. How does the compensation aspect of this work, if you don't mind me asking?
     
  31. Skeet84

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    Like it would in the NFL. Two 1st for Franchised player
     
  32. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Thanks, skeet.
     
  33. Skeet84

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    Your Very Welcome Alen
     
  34. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    But zero compensation for Transition tag?
    Sorry for being a pain in the Griddles here, but if you saw my FA list, you would want to know the entire picture as well. :up:
    EDIT: Sorry, I quoted the wrong post.... :pity:
     
  35. Skeet84

    Skeet84 New Member

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    Alot of people have bad lists. It happens.
     
  36. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Zero compensation for the transition tag... just like in the NFL.
     
  37. Tractor Traylor

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    Yea, no compensation. You just get the final say on if that player will resign with you or go to the other bidder.
     
  38. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    we'll give you compensatory picks in the 2011 draft, how's that??
     
  39. Saint Greg

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    It can be effective in that many teams aren't willing to make such a large bid on the first day of free agency. There is no allowing the bidding to go on for days or a week. It's 24hrs then it's over. Then it's your decision to match or not. At that point nobody can raise the bid. Typically people leave transition players alone. I did sign one Asante Samuel away from the Pats a couple years ago when I was desperate for a CB. I looked at their cap situation and made an offer that was basically unmatchable. But for the most part people don't touch transition players.
     
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  40. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Just for fun, here's a list of 2010 numbers from the NFL:


    Quarterback: $16.405 million [franchise tag], $14.546 million [transition tag]

    Defensive end: $12.398m, $10.193m

    Offensive line: $10.731m, $9.142m

    Linebacker: $9.680m, $8.373m

    Cornerback: $9.566 m , $8.056 m

    Wide receiver: $9.521m, $8.651m

    Running back: $8.156m, $7.151m

    Defensive tackle: $7.003m, $6.353m

    Safety: $6.455m, $6.011m

    Tight end: $5.908m, $5.248m
    Punter/kicker: $2.814m, $2.629m

    Wondering why these numbers are so much higher? NFL uses their franchise numbers by total salary, not just base salary like we do.
     
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