Moore's numbers primarily reflect how much pass rush pressure he's under. He is one of those guys who is fine when everything goes generally according to plan. He isn't one of those guys that saves or lifts the team when there are too many screw ups. To become a perennial SB contender, we're going to have to find one of those guys that can lift the team.
Fairness, same could be said of Brady and Eli Manning. if the Oline was even a midpoint unit 14-18, then sure, we are 31st, which makes Moore's success a bit more noteworthy.
Not at all. Those guys are great at covering their team's deficiencies. That's why they are franchise QBs.
Neither has operated behind an Oline this bad Rafi, straight up. To put that into historic context, we will set the franchise record for most sacks allowed this yr, even going back to the expansion days.
You don't evaluate a QB based on OL rankings. You don't count sacks b/c that is partly based on the QB. You look for times when the line or the receivers or backs screw up and then you see how often the QB bails them out.
Not this yr Bro, the problem is instant pressure, the OL is dreadful at pass blocking. We could run 3 step drops, choose not to, which imo is a credit to Daboll for not giving him the Sanchez treatment.
Best to purge the Oline, when the Qb is putting in above avg work behind a below avg OL, you are really suggesting the Qb is at fault? Based on...what theory? #2 in the nfl in sacks allowed, an all time franchise poor performance, and "blame the qb"? MMoore's performance is below Pennington's 08, but not by much, and of course he is the problem?
thats what i was alluding to on the previous page. it becomes interesting if you think he can do it with a good oline. that's actually the easiest and quickest path to the playoffs and competing for a title. im not sure there are many that think the oline can stay as is and the team would be fine with a better QB prospect. if you are telling me that he can do very well with the same eons of time that Brady has received over the years, it also gets interesting. he won't be pulling too many plays out of his ***, but his down field passing courage might make up for it
Alirghty: As of wk #16: QBR: 89.8 Comp %: 59.8 Yds per gm: 197.9 TD to Int 15 to 6 Sacked 35 Fmbl 14 6 lost Penny's 08: QBR 97.4 Comp% 67.4 Yds pr gm: 227 Sacked 24 FMBL: 3 1 lost When it comes to throwing stats, MMoore is about 85% of Pennington, he is 8% completions lower then Pennington and 7.8 Qbr points lower then Penningtons' 08. What is interesting is MMoore could very well catch Penny's 19 to 7 Td to int ratio...in 4 fewer starts.
Scrub! Seriously though, a pity he has problems hanging onto the football, it would be outside of the box, but I'd love to see him work with the running backs coach to perhaps learn how to secure the ball more effectively.
Final results: Pennington's 08: -65% completions -97.4 QBR -19 Tds to 7 int's -sacked 24 times MMoore: -60% completions -QBR of 87.1 -16 Tds to 9 int's -sacked 36 times Speaks for itself.
Brees -71.2% completions -QBR of 110.6 -46 Tds to 14 int's -sacked 24 times -5,476 passing yards This is what a real qb looks like not a back up
