1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

2015 First Round Draft Pick

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by TomLikePhinsUk, Apr 3, 2015.

  1. TomLikePhinsUk

    TomLikePhinsUk New Member

    9
    1
    0
    Apr 3, 2015
    UK
    Most sources around the league are reporting that the Miami Dolphins are most interested in taking either CB Trae Waynes out of Michigan State, WR Philip Dorsett of the University of Miami or WR DeVante Parker from the University of Louisville with the 14th pick in the draft. Just wondering if you guys think we should give Tannehill another target as he starts to progress and move forward into a year where many predict he will get paid big money. Or if you think the better option would be an elite corner like Waynes who would fill a hole in an otherwise stacked Miami defence and turn it from a great unit to an elite one. However, other positions like LB and Guard still need to be addressed.
     
    Fin4Ever likes this.
  2. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

    1,355
    823
    113
    May 11, 2014
    if they go WR Dorsett would be nice. I rather they get perryman and dorsett.... address ILB and WR...
     
  3. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    8,215
    1,896
    113
    Mar 10, 2013
    Buckeye Land
    Where are you getting "most sources?" I would looooove it they were right and we got Waynes.
     
  4. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 Rosen's Roughnecks Club Member

    Waynes = Chubby. It'll never happen.
     
  5. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

    71,575
    42,608
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    I'm in the minority but I think of all the "holes" on this team, CB is the least important. Not just because Taylor will be fine as the #2 and McCain will be fine in nickel, but also the position impacts our win/loss record less than other positions. All we need at the #2 CB spot is average talent. I'd much rather come out of this draft with a game changing WR, S, RB, LB or hell even another DT.

    Imagine for a minute taking a really good rookie DT to pair with SUH. We'd have cheap talent to offset Suh's contract (some) while the young guy learns under Suh.
     
    DolphinGreg likes this.
  6. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    8,215
    1,896
    113
    Mar 10, 2013
    Buckeye Land
    Is there a game changing S in this draft? I don't think there is.

    For me I think Trae could be an exceptional CB for years to come. I would love to get him.
     
    Piston Honda likes this.
  7. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    5,790
    4,758
    113
    Sep 23, 2014
    Yep. Grimes is 32 and bc of his size I think that when he begins to slide he's going to fall off a cliff. I dont trust Taylor to stay healthy, Davis and Thomas are coming off of ACLs. I don't study draft prospects much but if there's a physical, off corner type who can step in and play available I think the Dolphins would be foolish to pass on him.
     
  8. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

    2,435
    1,672
    113
    Apr 27, 2013
    Brazil
    CB should still be a high priority in the offseason, be it through FA or the draft, IMO. We have very little depth at CB... Grimes is the only proven starter at the boundary, and while I think Jamar Taylor can get the job done as the number two, we pretty much have no one else behind him.

    Will Davis might not be healthy to start the season and after him we have a bunch of nobodies in Sammy Seamster, TJ Heath, and Lowell Rose. If (knock on wood) something happens to Grimes, we are completely screwed. We all saw with the Jets what happens to a defense if you have no one at the CB position... it doesn't matter if you have an elite DL if your CBs can't cover for longer than 2 seconds.
     
  9. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    8,215
    1,896
    113
    Mar 10, 2013
    Buckeye Land
    Don't forget McCain, but not sure how he would be opposite Grimey as opposed to slot.
     
  10. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

    2,435
    1,672
    113
    Apr 27, 2013
    Brazil
    Yeah, I'm counting him as the slot.. but if someone like Grimes goes down, things get ugly, because I think only Taylor can play the nickle as well. Then we'd have Taylor as number 1, McCain number 2 and who else? Or Taylor CB1, McCain slot, then someone like Lowell Rose would be the CB2, or Davis if he's healthy... that spells trouble, IMO.
     
  11. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

    10,162
    3,719
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    CB draft is looking pretty deep this year.
     
    CashInFist likes this.
  12. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

    14,259
    4,963
    113
    Sep 10, 2009
    Boone, NC
    I'd go wr over cb. Waynes was never thought to be elite until he turned in a great 40 time. If the three wr's are gone along with Gurley. I think we haveto trade back and pick up a Perriman, Goldman or McKinney.

    This draft is more topheavy than a German mail order bride post WWII. We can still get top talent through round 3.
     
    Clark Kent likes this.
  13. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 Rosen's Roughnecks Club Member

    Thomas was pectoral I thought?
     
  14. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Yes it was a pectoral. He'd be our #2 slot corner and probably the #1 dime back. Assuming all are healthy.
     
  15. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

    71,575
    42,608
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    You want to spend a 1st rd pick on depth?
     
  16. bakedmatt

    bakedmatt Well-Known Member

    2,129
    909
    113
    Mar 29, 2008
    Orlando, FL
    Are we really considering Phillip Dorsett in the 1st round?
     
    miamiron and Tractor Traylor like this.
  17. Phoenician Fan

    Phoenician Fan Well-Known Member

    1,242
    340
    83
    Mar 21, 2013
    Trade down and add a pick or two and then draft this guy:http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...t-uconn-cb-byron-jones-runs-a-43-40-yard-dash

    I don't think people are realizing how rare a prospect this kid is. To find a world class athlete like this who has elite character and intelligence doesn't happen often.

    If all the Dolphins got out of this draft was a great LG, Byron Jones, and WR Mike Conley, I would be OK with it. Conley is another freak athlete with great size,elite character and intelligence.
     
  18. Phoenician Fan

    Phoenician Fan Well-Known Member

    1,242
    340
    83
    Mar 21, 2013
    Sorry, Chris Conley UGA. Who is Mike Conley?
     
  19. bakedmatt

    bakedmatt Well-Known Member

    2,129
    909
    113
    Mar 29, 2008
    Orlando, FL
    NBA guard.
     
  20. TomLikePhinsUk

    TomLikePhinsUk New Member

    9
    1
    0
    Apr 3, 2015
    UK
    Bucky Brooks and Lance Zierlein have us taking DeVante Parker in their latest mock drafts, while Charles Davis and Daniel Jeremiah have us selecting Trae Waynes. I wouldn't mind either as Parker gives us a slightly bigger receiver to use as a red-zone threat while Waynes is a slightly larger CB who's 40 time was eye popping.

    In an AFC East that features, Sammy Watkins, Brandon Marshall, Percy Harvin, Eric Decker and then whoever Brady decides to throw it to we need a legit man-to-man receiver and can't rely on Davis or Taylor to play no.2 (McCain would only play Nickel). However, if Waynes is not available then I say address CB either through free agency or hope that Taylor can progress and select Parker to give Tannehill even more targets as he accounts for the loss of one of his go-to guys Charles Clay. If neither are free then I say we trade down and get more picks for later in the draft.
     
  21. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

    3,793
    1,394
    113
    Sep 22, 2009
    delaware
    We already did that and his name is dion jordan.
     
  22. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

    10,193
    4,187
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    Bradenton,FL


    But can they play football? Being an athlete and a good guy can only take you so far
     
    77FinFan likes this.
  23. Itsdahumidity

    Itsdahumidity X gonna take it from ya

    2,073
    1,194
    113
    Dec 10, 2007
    No to a trade down. A chance at a top 15 player? Pick your top rated available player.

    Hyde5: The draft dangers of Dolphins trading down

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/dave-hyde-blog/sfl-hyde5-the-draft-dangers-of-dolphins-trading-down-20150404-story.html?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DaveHyde-blog+%28Dave+Hyde+|+Sun+Sentinel+blogs%29
     
  24. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

    10,071
    2,623
    113
    Nov 30, 2007
    West Virginia
    That's what I was thinking. Several look like they can play.
     
  25. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

    10,162
    3,719
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    Chris Conley can ball out. I think he'd be a great pick up round two.
     
  26. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    8,215
    1,896
    113
    Mar 10, 2013
    Buckeye Land
    He seems more like a 3rd to me, mostly because there are some more proven receivers ahead of him.
     
  27. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

    10,162
    3,719
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    To be fair to him, he in an offense that was heavily run-based.
     
  28. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    5,142
    3,827
    113
    Dec 9, 2012
    I don't think a DT is out of the realm of possibility. There was essentially a three-man rotation last year and the guys behind Suh and Mitchell were either UDFA's or were bouncing between practice squads. We're told there's hope those players (Johnson, Francis) will take a next step to contributing but who knows if they actually do that?
     
  29. 'Phinomenal`Phanatic'

    'Phinomenal`Phanatic' Member

    47
    44
    18
    Apr 3, 2015
    Give me weapons or give me death! At least go BPA for a change.
     
  30. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

    8,468
    4,003
    113
    May 9, 2008
    Trae Waynes is a pass interference machine. He ran fast at the combine and his stock went up. He's Brandon Browner with speed. No Thanks.
     
  31. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    8,215
    1,896
    113
    Mar 10, 2013
    Buckeye Land
    I want him. He's not the top cb just because he's fast, but it sure helps that he has close to Darrel Green makeup speed.
     
  32. TomLikePhinsUk

    TomLikePhinsUk New Member

    9
    1
    0
    Apr 3, 2015
    UK
    I agree, Grimes will start to fall off soon and quickly, at 5 foot 10 it's not like he can rely on his length when his hips start to pack in! If Waynes is still there at 14 then he'll be a Dolphin next year.
     
  33. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

    8,468
    4,003
    113
    May 9, 2008
    He's a pass interference machine. All he does he grab people. Brandon Browner with speed. Revis and Sherman don't have Darrel Green makeup speed and they're the best corners in football.
     
  34. danmarino

    danmarino Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    9,521
    10,312
    113
    Sep 4, 2014
    9 penalties in 2 seasons. But he also only gave up 2 TD's. I could live with those. Especially if he can be coached up to not grab.
     
  35. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

    8,468
    4,003
    113
    May 9, 2008
    You don't think he's not been coached to grab? What do you think they're teaching him lol?
     
  36. danmarino

    danmarino Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    9,521
    10,312
    113
    Sep 4, 2014
    Right. NFL coaches have never done a better job of coaching up a player.
     
    Brasfin likes this.
  37. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

    71,575
    42,608
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    Again, you're talking about drafting 1st round talent solely to be depth this year. Its just not necessary. I'm all for BPA, but there's a good chance there will be a as good or better WR, RB, or even DT available when we pick which are all going to help us win more games than a CB.
     
  38. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

    8,468
    4,003
    113
    May 9, 2008
    Whatever. The issue isn't coaching. He struggles making quick twitch adjustments and grabs people.
     
  39. danmarino

    danmarino Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    9,521
    10,312
    113
    Sep 4, 2014
    With speed like his he has plenty of quick twitch. His tendency to grab would most likely be un-learned at the NFL level with good coaching. This kids ceiling is higher than any other CB in the draft, IMO. To dismiss him because he received 9 penalties in 2 yrs is absurd.
     
    77FinFan likes this.
  40. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

    2,435
    1,672
    113
    Apr 27, 2013
    Brazil
    You speak as if players coming out of college are finished products... he has all the physical makeup of a good corner, seems pretty smart and is already a pretty good player at the college level, even with his flaws... if he can be coached up, I think he will be good at the NFL level as well.
     
    danmarino likes this.

Share This Page