2025 NFL Draft Thread; Dolphins have pick #13

We'll need to invest a lot of capital into the OL. Hopefully Armstead retires and we do not retain all of our free agent guards. Here's to getting two compensatory 3rd round picks, we need them.

Haven't seen a good multi round mock yet that addresses our most glaring needs.

 

Wilkins missed too many games so his 3rd is now a 4th round comp pick.

 

I would take BPA , unless it is an edge. Would not reach for any need. This team could use an upgrade across the entire team.

 

In that CBS mock, I’d be really annoyed if Starks was available and they took an edge rusher.

 

I would trade back. Team has too many holes to fill and not enough money.

 

Trading back is a great option, but if someone like Starla is there, at a position of need, you take them. OG’s can be had much later.

 

There's something warm, fuzzy and reassuring about seeing a graphic of a number 13 next to a Dolphins logo.

 

Except that Grier is drafting, and the lower the pick, the worse the result for Grier.

 

Yeah, unfortunately getting rid of Grier was the most important thing we could this offseason, and they didn't do it.

It's kick the cap can down the road again and be delusional about the roster. This was always my worst fear with the extensions. Tannehill II. Good enough to not draft highly, but bad enough to not make playoffs/do anything if you get there.

 

Grier said "we are going to have to invest in the offensive line. We are older there now." Grier and Armstead will have more conversations; already had one. "This is the time to start investing in some offensive linemen."

This is a Barry Jackson tweet

 

Starks or Warren

 

If they stay at 13… definitely.

 

I think Warren meets the standards, need and value at 13

 

Can he block? Seems like we need OL over a TE.

 

Hell may have just frozen over.

 

Yes, he can.

If you watched the games you'd see that a large number of missed blocks were due to the TE position.

 

Indeed. He may have finally found out that Jesus is a fan of the OL

As good as Armstead is individually, not being able to practice hurts the overall line play on game days. I hope he retires.

 

I mean, come on man. This seems like an argument just to argue. I don't think there is any defense of the position that says TE is a bigger need, in any capacity, than oline.

How many missed TE blocks were a result of the inept oline doing the wrong thing? I obviously don't know, but I don't think we should be drawing conclusions about TEs and their blocking without knowing that about the oline.

 

The OG's need upgrading big time. However, the running scheme for the Dolphins is highly dependent on the blocking of their TE's. Smythe and Hill sucked at that and were responsible for a large percentage (likely the majority) of run stuffs and poor rushing outcomes. That's not saying the OL wasn't also a big issue.

IMO, OG is too high at 13 and a TE is ranked #1b in need (with OG being 1a). However, if Warren is there at 13, and the Dolphins haven't already traded down, he should 100% be their pick. There's an argument for Malaki Starks here, but I'm tired of not fixing the offensive issues. I wouldn't be angry with Starks, I'm sure come draft time I'd be elated with him because he's such a great prospect, but I want Warren.

I'm not sure if you've watched much of Warren, but just know that he's getting Gronk, Kelce, and Whitten comps. He's that good.

As for OG's, there are a number of really good ones projected to go mid to late 2nd round and later. I'm not sure any will go round #1, but you never know. Teams reach all the time. We should be able to get one (maybe 2) of these guys in the later rounds. The combine may change these projections too, of course.

 

but, only because they are older not because the guards have been bad

 

TE Hill totally wiffed on lots of blocks. Last game I saw him try to block and wasnt even close the guy, I was like OMG you totally missed. He might be the strongest guy on the team, but if he can't make contact with the other player to block him he is worthless. I'd see if Higbee is available from the Rams and get him. He is often hurt, so Greer would love him.

 

Yeah I agree with this. My concern with Grier is that he seems incapable of trading down and then picking good oline. Basically, he has to spend high picks on oline to be successful.

So yeah, ideally, our TEs need to be able block, but I would rather get the oline effective before looking at TE, if that is possible.

 

Yes he can, good fundamentals when blocking.

That’s why I say the pick might make more sense for us cause he can help us in multiple ways.

in the line for blocking

short yardage as he has 200 yards rushing this year.

And very talented receiver with great hands.

like I said I don’t know if there will be a better olineman than him at 13, someone who has a high floor like this but we’ll see who drops to us.

Theres a lot of lineman in this draft it seems so I think the battle is d tackle, Oline, safety and Warren.

Let’s see if those guys at those other positions who Might be available at 13 measure up to the safe pick with good upside like Warren

 

Haven‘t looked into prospects at all, but that sounds intriguing! Like @danmarino wrote it’s to high for a OG (if it’s an elite one you could make an exception) and our TE’s sucked at blocking this season.

 

We might be looking at more (compensatory) picks:

https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/news/dolphins-could-get-even-more-comp-picks-01jh68ecvbhm

Not sure how much influence Reggie has, but it could be addition by subtraction in the front office as well.

 

I wish someone would hire Chris Grier away from us. I’d give a compensatory pick for that.

 

Don't compensatory picks really say you've been terrible at doing your job? People that sign their own good players don't get them correct?

 

Well maybe, maybe not. Depends on the individual. If Player X wants THIS amount of money and refuses to budge and the team is offering a fair deal, is it the player or the team that caused said player to be traded? I say it’s in the eye of the beholder.

If the team intentionally low balls an offer and the player is traded, then the team would be at fault…unless that was the team’s underlying strategy to trade a player and get a comp pick.

Taking Wilkins for example. The Dolphins offered what they deemed was a fair contract to Wilkins in 2023 but he declined it. He played his a$$ off, felt he was deserving of MORE money and the team wasn’t willing to go that high. So who’s to blame? Wilkins for refusing the Dolphins initial offer prior to 2023 and demanding more for 2024…or the team for not offering more for 2023 and their refusal to give in to Wilkins’ demand?

 

No… and why would a team get compensated for signing a player that they want? What a weird post.

 

In this instance, we would get picks when minority coaches or staffers get hired as HCs or GMs by other teams. As far as players go, you get picks when you lose more or higher rated players than you sign.

 

I bet someone here will disagree with T. Stead. Lmao

 

I felt Allar played poorly all night. He was shaky and uncomfortable from the first drive. He's likely to be a first round pick next year but that game will give some GMs a reason to pause on selecting him

 

I would definitely agree with Armstead here. There was no reason at all for the quarterback to drift to the left. He was well protected in the pocket.

 

THIS is the time to invest in the offensive line????? NOW???? You mean, it wasn't time to invest in the line when you drafted your quarterback of the future to set him up for success?

 

Our OL was not only fine, but young, until this year. Haven’t you been paying attention? No wonder you’re not a GM.

/sarcasm mode off

 

Sarcasm mode off? I was hoping that was sarcasm.

 

The sarcasm mode went off after that comment. Sorry if my 50 something attempt at internet humor went awry, lol.

 

kinda incentives teams to hire all minority coaches huh ?

 

Most of the Super Bowl winners in recent years have good TEs. I believe we need one for sure. Loveland and a second round tackle are fine. Many teams have drafted good tackles after the first round.