Interesting to read that about Misi. I wonder if Volin is confused, as I think Misi and Burnett would be playing Sam and Will respectively.

 

:lol:

:pity:

 

shocking.

 

Wow. I have mixed emotions on this one. Feel bad for Tanne. :pointlol: The rook begins the learning process.

 

I expect Tannehill to need the time... Jones stepping up and getting down the ball hawk skills and continuing to be a monster tackler would be tremendous boon for the team. Be happy about it for now at least!

 

I have no idea why we are still wasting time with Ray Feinga. Guy is almost always hurt and just not plain good enough to even dress on game day. Time to move on from him.

Cameron Wake had better watch what or how he says things. Announcing freely that he/they are gong for " Their Heads ' is not a good thing these days to be bragging about.

 

I am. I was joking.

 

Demoting Feinga to the practice squad is Jeff Ireland's favorite pastime. Whenever he has a bad day, he just demotes Feinga and all is well in Jeff's world.

 

I think some reports of earlier OTAs had Misi and Burnett playing both spots, no harm at this stage in getting them reps at both positions.

 

I haven't seen it but anyone know who will play slot in Nickel situations? My best guess is, it would be Vontae.

 

Just based on the press he's received for being brought in as a nickel guy, it has to be Richard Marshall at this point.

 

Yeah that's what I'm thinking Marshall will come in and play the outside guy and Vontae will slide in to cover the slot.

 

I meant Marshall will be the nickel back, not play outside. Even last year with Will Allen, Vontae was pretty much always outside.

 

Best thing for me is the talk of Vernon making his prescense felt..It means wake sees something..Motor, strength and raw talent...nice.

 

Thanks for the updates.

 

Every year the "shorts" hype. Please hurry training camp.

 

<-- official member of the cut tannehill bandwagon

 

Barry Jackson's typically thought to be a little more objective so here are his notes:

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/#storylink=cpy

David Garrard needs to get back to practice. I can accept the rookie Tannehill having a bad day here and there as he tries to adjust to the speed of NFL defenders. But Matt Moore also throwing a bunch of picks and only looking "somewhat better" than a rookie in the midst of a bad day, that's just not right. All this stuff in OTAs mostly doesn't matter, but I have believed firmly since the day we signed him that David Garrard would get the start unless they draft Weeden, and I'm not seeing anything that challenges that viewpoint.

 

Love hearing Vernons motor, him opposite Wake is ****ing scary for offenses. I like Gary Guyton, hope he pushes Misi. Its a win win for our team if he does.

And I can't wait to watch all the battles in training camp on hard knocks! So awesome!

 

Interesting that Barry said most of Tannehill's completions were over the middle or screens. I almost wonder if that's not by design? A lot of the talking heads, Mike Mayock in particular, and I think CK hit this point as well, noted that Tannehill struggled quite a bit when throwing over the middle as opposed to the outside. It'd make sense to me know to give him a bunch of reps with plays designed to go over the middle to get him more comfortable, and yeah, you might see some more interceptions, but I think it's better to train him hard in that area now before he's actually in a game.

 

Exactly, if he's going to make mistakes, lets have them happen in shorts during OTAs, not week 9 of the regular season.

 

You guys realize that's Fail Forward Fast, right? I never understood why Cam got so much grief for that saying.

 

It's the way he said it, but yes, that's exactly what he meant. Fail now, succeed later.

 

I just hope Vernon and Wake make a dynamic passrushing combo.

 

Because he never stopped failing.

 

Not what I'm saying. He was blasted for it the second he said it, which was waaaay before the season and his actual failures.

 

We need you to turn your thumbs THIS direction

 

Granted, but that is why it stuck. Would've all been forgotten had he been able to actually turn things around and not look so overwhelmed as a HC. I hear what you are saying, but his tenure only reinforced the initial criticism which stuck with him the entire way IMO.

 

Because the head coach isn't supposed to have that attitude. The HC should have the attitude that failing isn't acceptable. It may be the reality of what will happen, but the coaches shouldn't endorse it.

 

Coaches endorse it all the time. Train people to handle difficult situations, then when they are in difficult situations they are ready to handle it.

 

While there is plenty to be excited about with this new regime, the list of nitpicks is quietly building. Not saying I'm definitely right, but some things don't make sense to me.

1. Artis Hicks at right tackle instead of right guard
2. Richard Marshall at nickel corner instead of free safety
3. Reshad Jones at free safety instead of strong safety
4. Chris Clemons at strong safety instead of free safety
5. Olivier Vernon as an outside pass rusher in pass rush situations

Watching Vernon on tape, even though he's a better pass rusher than Koa Misi, I don't know that I look at him and see a part time guy that you place at defensive end in pass rush situatin. I just don't see it. He's hellishly strong for his size and would guard well against the run. His combination of strong hands and athleticism makes him a mismatch problem when you reduce him to the inside facing a guard in pass rush situations. But he was highly inconsistent as a straight up pass rusher in pass rush situation. As I reviewed pass rushers for the 2013 draft, I could easily find in one quarter of one game things that would take me multiple games to find in Olivier Vernon's tape. He's got some potential there but it's going to take some time.

Having Jared Odrick play the outside on 1st and 2nd down then moving inside on 3rd down while Olivier Vernon plays outside...that strikes me as wishful thinking more than something you do based on evaluation.

 

Right. Training someone in a difficult situation is saying failure is acceptable in the near-term. Just because it is difficult does not mean they are expected to fail at it.

 

Well, keep in mind Hicks needs reps to, as does JJerry.

Why they think RJones, who is not nimble, is a FS and Clemons, who is nimble, is a SS is beyond me.

As for Vernon, keep in mind his role flipped under Al Golden, he was more of a stay at home type, in 2010 he was asked to pass rush consistently.

 

Failure is acceptable. Especially if the stresses causes the player to be better.

 

but they are still in the process of evaluating. If those nitpicks remain the same by 3rd week of TC, then I'll be uncomfortable.

 

Sure. But acknowledging that gives them an excuse when they do fail.

 

It is my hope that Vernon is a young matt roth type.

 

Not acknowledging that causes the coach to look like a liar.

 

Lie about what? He's not coming out and telling the player that he will succeed no matter what.

Telling a player he's expected to fail is literally giving that player the lowest expectations possible. You could find a man off the street, and Cam Cameron would expect the same level of success out of him as someone he took with an early-round pick. That is not going to inspire confidence in the team, which clearly happened with Cameron. The players didn't respect him because he didn't respect the players.

Could you imagine showing up to work and your boss saying "you're going to fail today, and I'm OK with that"? Would you even bother trying?