The guy should feel lucky the father even called the police

 

cool

 

My kinda guy.

 

It's difficult to feel much anger against the father. He did commit several crimes, but it's clear that he never intended to really hurt the kid. My hope is that it ends up getting dismissed but I doubt it. My guess is that there will be a plea before trial that results in a felony conviction but no jail time.

 

What if the girl told him she was 18? Then that photo means nothing. If this girl's father thinks she is a saint he is in for one big disappointment.

Am I the only one who thinks this vigilante did wrong?

Mind you, I don't have a daughter, so...

 

I woulda just sent the kid back a picture of my wang.

 

And you wonder why no one follows you on twitter









PS: Thanks for the pic

 

Thats gonna be me.

 

I'd probably have more followers on twitter if I did that.

 

haha like you can afford a house................or gun..................or taser........

 

:sad:

 

I am in the same boat as you. The father should never see the light of day.

 

I got that beat. I used to work for the sheriff's office here and part of my job was typing up police reports. This one guy called the SO to report that his girlfriend's mom beat him with a frying pan. The mom caught him in bed with ladies' daughter. I would have just let that go and not filed a report if I was the kid.

 

I am a bit torn on this one. On one hand, if I have a daughter REGARDLESS of age, and I found out some ******* send him a picture of his crotch, I would taze the guy myself. However, I think it was a bit extreme to tie him up, take off his clothes, and torture him. Another thing, I find it disturbing on some of the comments of that article is that they call the 23 year old a "predator." An *******? Yes. A piece of **** perv loser? Yes. But since "To Catch a Predator", the word predator has been used so much that it is almost like its meaning goes away. This is a 17 year old girl, not a 12 year old or even a 14 year old.


All that said, I would have tazed his nuts off if it were my daughter. :up:

 

In the state of washington he could be a few months away from being legal.

 

fan gets tasered for running out onto a field towards players, and it's F the police.
civilian gets bound and tasered for texting a picture of a wang, and its all laughs?

double standard.

 

I'm not sure if the father was pissed off or turned on....

 

You know what they say: Tase a perv in the sack, and they never come back.

 

No question. Dudes lucky to be alive. No laughs.

 

I'm also torn on this, Is he really a pedofile if he is 23 and she is 17? She could have lied about her age afterall, and it does take two to tango.

 

Personally, and this is just me, I don't care what my 17 year old daughter tells this 23 year old dude who is going to send a picture of his johnson from his cell phone to my daughter. It's about decisions and dude is making all the wrong ones start to finish.

And yea, I have a nice little conversation with little miss 17 year old as well.

 

I believe California's rule would mark anybody who had sex with somebody under 18 and was more than three years older than him/her a pedophile.

 

Maybe I am alone, however as a society, I do not see this as healthy.

 

Two points to consider here; 1 this 23 yr old kid knew this girl and thought the idea of sending such a picture to a 17 yr old was ok or 2 this 23 yr old kid did not know this girl and chose to send her such a picture anyway. what on Earth is healthy about that? for 23 he is making some very bad choices in his life. If she was of consenting age and they had a relationship, then what they do with each other I don't care. But she is not of consenting age. He is. the thought that that would in any way be considered healthy in any society is beyond me.

For the record, I would do just about anything to protect my daughter, including the possibility of jail time.

 

This dude kidnapped and then basically tortured someone lol. Pretty hard to justify that over a dirty picture. It would be a bit more understandable if his daughter was being harassed or something along those lines. Having said that I'm willing to bet she was consenting in this case.

 

some say pedophile is with prepubescent kids, others say it is with children, and this is what the diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders has to say about it:

http://www.helping-people.info/articles/dsm.htm

to which i think is pretty spot on. i think a 23 / 17 year old age difference is a bit of an age gap, but they both know what they were doing, and it does take two to tango like you say. i'm not sure how i would feel about it if i had a daughter because A) I don't have one and B) I don't want kids, but that's how I feel now.

also, it's a naked picture. did they have sex? there's a huge difference. there's a term jailbait for a reason.

 

I do not see how torturing someone is protecting your daughter. Honestly I do not see keeping ***** pictures away from your daughter is protecting her. it is like not allowing her from eating strawberries is protecting her from the evil of strawberries.

No she is not of consenting age and I do not think that is healthy either. It keeps sex as something that is taboo and part of being rebellious.

 

I heard of an incident that happened in Reno recently that may bear some relevance here.

A 20 year old in Reno has a 16 year old GF. They are having sex, which is legal b/c the age of consent in Nevada is 16. They'd been dating almost a year and a little before her 17th birthday she sends him a picture of her boobs. I don't know how it became known, but it does and the guy is arrested for possession of child porn. The guy ends up taking a deal to get probation instead of jail, but he will always have a felony on his record and he will have to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life. How about that?

 

The hard reality of life is that in our society, like it or not, we are minors one moment and then legal consenting adults literally the next. 12:01 midnight is all it takes. weather we think it is OK or not, this girl is still a minor. In some states she is considered legal to have sex and some she is not but still a minor. As a parent, hopefully that 18 year ride is geared for that moment so that at 12:01 your child is able to handle themselves in the world.

Am I kidding my self that she is pure and innocent, unknowing of the pervs and indecencies in this world? Yea right. By 17 I'm sure she is probably already on the pill. And at some point as parents you have had the talk. Some parents might even "allow" some relationships to "grow" with some monitoring...I don't know.

This father found out that a 23 year old man was sending nude pictures of himself to his 17 year old daughter, who is technically still his responsibility, his minor daughter. You see technically until 12:01 on that magical day, he still is responsible for that child, a junior, maybe senior in high school. And a man that has been out of school 4, maybe 5 years is engaging in this behavior with her. To suffer some burns on his shoulder and some bruising on his wrists and ankles as well as his pride to learn that this behavior is not OK in my opinion is worth the trouble.

I find it interesting how many people are willing to look past his lewd behavior to question this fathers actions. It's just a nude picture of himself right? That speaks volumes to me about the level that our society has reached.

 

I think you may be misinterpreting some posters' overall opinions. I cannot speak for everyone else, but I am certainly not condoning the 23 year old's actions. What he did was wrong and by the letter of the law is illegal, and he should be dealt with accordingly, and, what my point is, LEGALLY.

I don't really care what he did. Sent a picture, called her a *****, stole her shoes. That does not mean someone can go force him to strip, tie him up, and taser him with vigilante justice. You go to the police if someone committed a crime. To put it in a similar thought as your argument, I find it interested how many people are willing to look past kidnap and torture to support a father 'protecting his daughter' by likely going to jail. What's kind of example is he setting? How's he going to protect her from prison?

 

In summary, the kid is wrong, but the father is also wrong.

 

Agreed, the 23 year old is pathetic and disturbed to be hunting for jailbait. But it does not justify the actions of the father.

 

20/16 is ****ed because of the sex thing, as would 17 be depending on "new 17" or "almost 18". The sex offender thing is something he should have known about prior to sex. It was probably consensual sex, but the law is the law.

It's light as far as sex offender goes, but it's gonna suck hard for him. He technically was an offender, but I wouldn't label him personally like that depending on the circumstances.. (ie. if it was consensual or not)

 

17 and 23 isn't that far apart in age. He was stupid because it is illegal, however disturbed? That is crazy.

 

20/16 is legal in Washington to have sex.

It wasn't the sex that got the guy in trouble. It was having boobie pictures of someone who it was legal for him to have sex with.

 

No, the father is a psychopath and shouldn't see the light of day. EVER! Our society should be set up to protect us against people who are plain psycho like this father.

It is against the law, he shouldn't do it. I agree.

However it is just a *****. It isn't going to damage her for the rest of her life. It didn't damage her at all.

Honestly I am sick of the immaturity of our society when it comes to sex. "Oh my god a *****, send that guy to jail and brand him as a sex offender." It is much better to tie a guy up and torture him than it is for a 17 year old teenager to see a *****.

 

I do not think people are being honest.

I remember when I turned 23 and one of the biggest surprises to me were that women who were under the age of 18 and went through puberty were still hot. By the ways the laws were created all my life I thought there would be a switch. I would be around 23 and all of a sudden they would look like children. I didn't touch because I know it was illegal (plus I was super shy back then and wouldn't try anyways or even allow it to happen).

I know I am not the only person who looked a tight body and said, "Aw #$#$" when I saw the fact and realize that this big boobed curvey woman was most likely under 18.

Now at 31 going on 32 it is different. Around 23 years old they all look young to me. Going to bars now is crazy looking at girls and thinking, "Wait, she is 21?"

I am not saying that people should break the law. I just do not agree with 23 year olds with 17 year olds being labeled as pedophile.

There should be a label that is prepubescent and post-pubescent.

 

i understand what you are saying and agree that a 23 year old with a 17 year old isn't exactly what the term pedophile should be defined as. However, I'm sure there are some 23 year old pedophiles, and then, where do you draw the line? 17? 16? 15? whether or not there is 'grass on the field?'

Between sexual, emotional and physical maturity, there is so much gray area that is incredible difficult to define. That said, I don't think you can approach a law with the "know it when I see it" view either, because then things become even fuzzier.

In some cases (not necessarily the one in this thread) it does seem unfair to have 18 be a defined moment of when a girl should be 'of age'. As someone said earlier, does the clocking rolling over to midnight all of a sudden make you a mature woman? no, of course not. But there needs to be a line somewhere, and (unfortunately in some cases) it does need to be enforced.

 

Because this guy reacted to something he felt was rather offensive towards his minor daughter he is a psychopath? If he has a history of this kind of behavior then I might agree but if this is the only thing he has ever done in this manor you have to look at the cause for his behavior. I never labeled the 23 year old because I would not consider him a pedophile. I question his maturity and his decisions, and as a father "protecting" to some degree my daughter. I may not have been as elaborate as the father but that 23 year old would certainly receive a nice pop in the mouth from me for his actions. and again the understated actions of this idiot and strong desire to persecute the father for his reaction is beyond me. The law will determine how to handle the father but unfortunately the idiot that started this will will walk away with only a bruised ego and a tased shoulder. :pity: