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A LOT of positives BUT

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by mlb1399, Sep 25, 2020.

  1. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    Last night was one of the more satisfying wins in recent history and not because of who we beat. Beating NE last year would take the prize there.

    What was exciting last night is we saw a lot of things come together.

    -Gesicki is turning out to be one of the better TE’s in the NFL
    -Parker showed some toughness and grit that we didn’t see his first two years
    -Gaskins is good even though the stat line doesn’t show it
    -we saw a lot of production out of our new free agents
    -we have so many rookies/younger players playing and/or contributing. For the first time in a long time, it looks like our drafts are paying off
    -this 2020 draft might be one of the best in the last decade, even if Tua doesn’t pan out. Hopefully he does. We’ve got 4 starters and 5 people contributing already
    -our coaches had a good gameplan and we executed

    The BUT is we we have Seattle coming up and I’m sure some will go back to desperation and doom & gloom. I don’t think we’re at their level yet.
     
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  2. The Guy

    The Guy Well-Known Member

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    The issue as I see it is that the defense was horrendous until such time that the offense supplied it with a comfortable lead and one-dimensionalized the Jaguars' offense. That won't happen against many teams.
     
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  3. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    We can't keep up with Seattles Offense, but their Defense isn't very good this year. They have given up the second most yds and were a 4th and Goal away from losing to the patsies. They have a tough matchup against Dallas this week too. We may just be able to catch them with their guard down when they come play us.
     
  4. KeyFin

    KeyFin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't know....we have 10 days to get our two starting CB's healthy. If that happens, then I'd say we might be able to slow down Seattle just enough for the Bearded One to win a shootout. It's a great test for this young team and it helps a lot that Seattle is making the long trip to Miami. I wouldn't expect a win, but I won't be shocked to see us compete and make it a real game.

    We desperately need our two stud corners to heal up though!
     
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  5. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    See what I mean about how a defense can put up a good game on the scoreboard but still look pretty bad? At least in small samples.

    Our defense wasnt very encouraging. We did get more pressure once they started passing near exclusively, but that is to be expected.
     
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  6. tirty8

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    I think our real problem is and has for awhile been run stopping. I really think we have been bad at this since Joe Philbin was our coach. I think that problem compounds itself when we face running QBS.

    I gotta think that will be a priority next offseason.
     
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  7. The Guy

    The Guy Well-Known Member

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    Christian Wilkins needs to be making a bigger impact in that area, as a first-round pick with a year under his belt.
     
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  8. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    4 sacks and gave up 13 points. 72 rushing yards allowed, a pick and a forced fumble. I would take that "looking bad" every game.
     
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  9. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    That's why some of us were hoping we'd use one of our first rounders on a NT this year. There was some top talent available. We had a lot of holes to fill but this hole should have been filled first.
     
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  10. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    They're not even close to Seattle's level. Fans need to know that they are probably going to be a touchdown underdog at home and probably going to lose. They matchup horribly against Seattle and Wilson is playing at an MVP level. You think Miami had a hard time containing Newton, Allen and Minshew?
     
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  11. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I didn't think they had a hard time containing Minshew.
     
  12. ConvenientTruth

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    That cross country travel is tough on any team, but I don't think Miami wins...

    3-7/4-6 at the bye is where I see it...Tua after the bye vs the Jets and Bengals before facing tougher competition.
     
  13. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Watching this team this year, i've noticed that there is no "fools gold" about them. What you see is what you're getting. A young up and coming team that is learning how to play and win in this league. There's no fake hype about them, no high priced free agents massively underwhelming, we're feisty and competitive and this team has some grit to it finally. Myles Gaskin is proof that everything is going to be earned on this roster. He's pretty much beaten out both Breida and Howard for the starting job and I love that Flores has stuck with him despite Howard being the more expensive addition and Breida being the one we traded for. It also makes the Tua situation a lot more understandable. He needs more time. It was so nice to see us get a win last night. Nobody on pregame program picked us to win. Not only did we win, but we dominated that game.
     
  14. hitman8

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    Wilkins is playing very well, you can't put it all on one guy. He is not the reason we can't stop the run.
     
  15. texanphinatic

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    Getting Brown would have meant no QB or a trade that sucked up the majority of our resources. I also think it's pretty clear the staff was targeting Davis and have decided to put their eggs in his basket. If he and Wilkins can play to the potential, that's a devastating DT tandem. Obviously they aren't there yet, and Wilkins in particular needs to be doing more, but the potential is there.
     
  16. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    I wish they would have followed Davis up with a good FA vet like Danny Shelton. It's been a glaring need for yrs thats never been adequately fixed. If you can't defend the middle of the field you can't defend any of it. They upgraded at LB and S but by the time the plays at that level the cow done left the barn. Wilkins is looking good collapsing the pocket and getting pressure up the middle, but he can't hold the line and theres no one eating up blockers and demanding double teams to keep the LBs clean to make plays, Seems like the other teams G's are getting to the second level at will.
     
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  17. cbrad

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    We're nowhere near Seattle's level. Regardless, neither the doom & gloom nor the exuberance after yesterday's game is accurate. We still look the part of the 6-10 team Vegas predicted IMO. Still too many weaknesses on this team.

    Doesn't matter though. This is a development year and I was really happy we got that win. Coach needs it too, otherwise you start to lose the players if there isn't any evidence of improvement, and there was definitely improvement yesterday.
     
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  18. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    What?????

    Jacksonville went...

    4 and out
    9 and a touchdown
    9 and turnover on downs
    5 and out
    5 and out
    5 and turnover (fumble)
    7 and turnover on downs
    10 and touchdown
    4 and turnover on downs
    5 and turnover interception

    The defense was playing just fine even prior to the 21-7 lead. They played well all night
     
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  19. firedan

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    One glimmer of hope is Seattle doesn't travel well to south Fla..
     
  20. KeyFin

    KeyFin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That and we get a few extra days of rest/practice to prepare & get players healthy. I'm definitely not saying that we'll win by any means, but it should be a competitive game for a little while.
     
  21. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member

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  22. The Guy

    The Guy Well-Known Member

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    Prior to the 21-7 lead, the Jaguars EPA per offensive play was a whopping 0.47.

    To put that in perspective, the team that led the league in EPA per offensive play in 2019 was the Baltimore Ravens, with an EPA per play of 0.18.

    An EPA per play of 0.47, with an average number of offensive plays in a game (63), yields an expected point total of 30. Obviously that would win a team the vast majority of its games in the league, and in fact it would've resulted in a roughly a tie during regulation last night, with all else equal, and not the easy 31-13 victory that actually occured.

    No, the Dolphins' defense was garbage prior to the 21-7 lead, hence my point that it wasn't good until the Jaguars were one-dimensionalized on offense by the comfortable lead with which the Dolphins' offense supplied it.
     
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  23. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Environmental Protection Agency?
     
  24. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    Definitely agree with you on this one.
     
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