A picture that speaks 1,000 words about Chris Williams...

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CANEPHINSCANEPHINSforum_veteranOP
Aug 23, 2009, 09:22 AM

Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Aug 23, 2009, 09:23 AM

SCARED.....999 to go.

CANEPHINSCANEPHINSforum_veteran
Aug 23, 2009, 09:31 AM

Doofus....998 to go.

HobiesailorHobiesailorsubscriber
Aug 23, 2009, 09:36 AM

cut

"4th down, 100 yards to go, you don't call a running play up the middle in the snow... Unless you're the Jets." -Football Guru Dr. Greg House

DOLPHAN1DOLPHAN1luxury_box
Aug 23, 2009, 09:49 AM

I hope they give the kid one more week to show some improvement. his up side, I think, is that good. It's a tough thing to field punts and kick-offs know that 11, ok 10 1/2 guys, are charging right at you.

bbqpitloverbbqpitloverforum_veteran
Aug 23, 2009, 09:59 AM

I hope they give him one more week to prove himself, they should make do nothing but field punts like hundreds a day.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Aug 23, 2009, 10:04 AM

"bbqpitlover wrote:

I hope they give him one more week to prove himself, they should make do nothing but field punts like hundreds a day.

That, or have Ireland have a Football Prayer Meeting with Mr. Williams with Tuna waiting in the golf cart...it worked for Dan Carpenter..:lol:

I do think CW should have one more game to prove one way or another it's preseason so it's not the end of the world if he muffs another one, but if proves he can get the job done, then we have a returner with some upside.

What bothers me about that picture is he is not watching the ball into his hands.

Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Aug 23, 2009, 10:06 AM

yea he has looked good at times but you cant make some of those mistakes, they lose games.

CANEPHINSCANEPHINSforum_veteran
Aug 23, 2009, 10:06 AM

"bbqpitlover wrote:

I hope they give him one more week to prove himself, they should make do nothing but field punts like hundreds a day.

Lets see...last week he almost had a safety on his return when he caught it inside the 10, ran backwards and sideways before being taken down inside the 1. This week he has this blunder.

Some kids have it...some don't. You can't teach speed. You can't teach focus either. He lacks focus. This picture proves that and further explains last weeks blunder.

gunn34gunn34New Member
Aug 23, 2009, 10:08 AM

Last week everyone had him going to the probowl as a ST returner. 1 bad game and now he's cut?????????????????????

padre31padre31luxury_box
Aug 23, 2009, 10:09 AM

"CANEPHINS wrote:

Lets see...last week he almost had a safety on his return when he caught it inside the 10, ran backwards and sideways before being taken down inside the 1. This week he has this blunder.

Some kids have it...some don't. You can't teach speed. You can't teach focus either. He lacks focus. This picture proves that and further explains last weeks blunder.

And the preseason is for player evaluations, it costs us nothing to give Williams another crack at the return job.

Though the Bills are shopping Roscoe Parrish and I like C Williams but Parrish is a whole different level.

CANEPHINSCANEPHINSforum_veteran
Aug 23, 2009, 10:14 AM

Except when this coming up game is the most important of the preseason and those that are going to get the playing time need to get the most of it. Having someone on the roster, getting those reps, when someone else should be back there isn't a good thing.

If it was going into week 2, I would say sure...give him another chance to redeem himself. However, week 3 isn't for that.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Aug 23, 2009, 10:19 AM

"CANEPHINS wrote:

Except when this coming up game is the most important of the preseason and those that are going to get the playing time need to get the most of it. Having someone on the roster, getting those reps, when someone else should be back there isn't a good thing.

If it was going into week 2, I would say sure...give him another chance to redeem himself. However, week 3 isn't for that.

Disagree, week 3 or 2, if Williams does flame out, D Bess will return punts, if he succeeds, then Bess stays at Wr, either way though the Team will have a better idea what they are working with and whether or not Williams is worth the opportunity cost.

CANEPHINSCANEPHINSforum_veteran
Aug 23, 2009, 10:19 AM

He didn't look THAT good last week. He had one good return where he got out of a tackle. Everything else was avg to below avg.

CANEPHINSCANEPHINSforum_veteran
Aug 23, 2009, 10:24 AM

Unfortunately with our schedule we don't have room for giving people chances. You need to be able to step up and play right now. He hasn't shown that he his capable mentally to handle this role.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Aug 23, 2009, 10:26 AM

"CANEPHINS wrote:

Unfortunately with our schedule we don't have room for giving people chances. You need to be able to step up and play right now. He hasn't shown that he his capable mentally to handle this role.

We'll see, negative speculation is as bad as positive speculation when the truth of the matter is, in less than 100 hours or so we will be playing again, if Williams does not have another shot it will be apparent.

Larry LittleLarry Littlesubscriber
Aug 23, 2009, 10:51 AM

It's too funny how fickle fans can be sometimes.

The thing you have to remember about critics is that they can't do it themselves. - John Cleese

like2godlike2godluxury_box
Aug 23, 2009, 10:51 AM

"CANEPHINS wrote:

Except when this coming up game is the most important of the preseason and those that are going to get the playing time need to get the most of it. Having someone on the roster, getting those reps, when someone else should be back there isn't a good thing.

If it was going into week 2, I would say sure...give him another chance to redeem himself. However, week 3 isn't for that.

There is no such thing as an important preseason game. Preseason is about getting the system down, getting reps, building chemistry, building stamina, and yes making mistakes and learning from them. Nothing that happens in preseason is going to doom our chances of making the playoffs, these games mean nothing in that respect. Knocking this kid after 2 preseason games is silly and not what I would expect from our folks.


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Larry LittleLarry Littlesubscriber
Aug 23, 2009, 10:52 AM

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

yea he has looked good at times but you cant make some of those mistakes, they lose games.

Show me a rookie that's never made mistakes.

The thing you have to remember about critics is that they can't do it themselves. - John Cleese

Larry LittleLarry Littlesubscriber
Aug 23, 2009, 10:53 AM

"CANEPHINS wrote:

You can't teach focus either.

Um... yes, you can.

The thing you have to remember about critics is that they can't do it themselves. - John Cleese

bbqpitloverbbqpitloverforum_veteran
Aug 23, 2009, 10:59 AM

"CANEPHINS wrote:

Unfortunately with our schedule we don't have room for giving people chances. You need to be able to step up and play right now. He hasn't shown that he his capable mentally to handle this role.

Are we talking Ted Ginn or Chris Williams ?

Larry LittleLarry Littlesubscriber
Aug 23, 2009, 11:00 AM

"CANEPHINS wrote:

He didn't look THAT good last week. He had one good return where he got out of a tackle. Everything else was avg to below avg.

"CANEPHINS wrote:

Unfortunately with our schedule we don't have room for giving people chances. You need to be able to step up and play right now. He hasn't shown that he his capable mentally to handle this role.

Good gravy, Cane... I couldn't disagree with you more, on all points. No offense...

The thing you have to remember about critics is that they can't do it themselves. - John Cleese

MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Aug 23, 2009, 11:10 AM

"CANEPHINS wrote:

Unfortunately with our schedule we don't have room for giving people chances. You need to be able to step up and play right now. He hasn't shown that he his capable mentally to handle this role.

He's fielded dozens of punts/kicks in college. Hands and lack of focus were never a problem. IMO, his muffs and mental errors in the first two games are nothing more than jitters from being on such a big stage for the first time. NMSU isn't exactly the SEC or PAC-10.
The kid has too much natural talent and past production in the roles to just pull the plug on him so soon.

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CANEPHINSCANEPHINSforum_veteran
Aug 23, 2009, 11:19 AM

we will see. But, imvho, he doesn't "pass the eyeball test".

azfinfanmangazfinfanmangluxury_box
Aug 23, 2009, 11:21 AM

"Larry Little wrote:

Good gravy, Cane... I couldn't disagree with you more, on all points. No offense...

Thank you for being the voice of reason Larry.

If we had somebody else to plug in there that was so much better, Williams wouldn't be in the games to begin with

I think the kid gets at least game 3 before they drop the boom

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