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Aaron Maybin, the Bills Vernon Gholston?

Discussion in 'AFC East Rivals' started by padre31, Oct 26, 2010.

  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    AFC East Blog - ESPN

    Well, every fan of an AFC East team knows the Vernon "da Ghost" Gholston story, taken #6 overall, he has produced next to nothing for 3 seasons in NY.

    However, Aaron Maybin has produced even less than Gholston, and was taken #11 overall two yrs ago and is not even being activated on game days, last yr I chalked that up to his prolonged holdout in 2009, but in 2010, 6 games into the season, his Coach is washing him out..already.

    The switch to the 4-3, which should have benefitted Maybin, in fact means nothing at all, so apparently Maybin cannot even manage a role as a "pin your ears back passrushing DE" in a 4-3.

    With Ralph Wilson's near legendary cheapness, Maybin may not be long for the Bills roster.

    FWIW, I liked Maybin coming out of PSU, he was young at the time, and I thought maybe to overdeveloped physically. Maybin had a bodybuilders' physique, but the NFL game maybe required different sets of muscle groups than "Greek Statue", the league is not a beauty contest and sometimes squats and power cleans are needed more than Curls...
     
  2. Darrelle Revis

    Darrelle Revis I BELIEVE!

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    I rather have Aaron Maybin's mother than Vernon Gholston.
     
  3. Darrelle Revis

    Darrelle Revis I BELIEVE!

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    Gholston has NEVER had a sack in his entire career.
     
  4. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    It's Gholston vs Maybin..the Battle of Busts..to the death!!!


    :evil:

    :lol:
     
  5. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    epic debate
     
  6. padre31

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    TBH, I cannot decide which one is worse, Maybin or Gholston.

    I ALMOST have to go with Maybin, the Bills switched to the 4-3 and Maybin was supposedly a top flight passrushing 4-3 DE and he still cannot crack the lineup, or even be activated on game days.

    Gholston was a higher draft pick, so Maybin has a high hurdle to overcome.
     
  7. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    I'll take the one that didn't go to Ohio State.
     
  8. padre31

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    OSU=PSU..same same.
     
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  10. padre31

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    They have, and Maybin who played RDE at PSU still cannot crack the lineup.

    Gholston at least has the excuse that he couldn't make the jump to OLB, Maybin does not even have that one.

    As for acquiring him, I'd doubt it, if he cannot play for ex Phin Lb Coach Edwards, how could he play for Sparano?
     
  11. padre31

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    Sounds oddly like Gholston.

    And for good measure, Ghost and Maybe are not alone, let's toss Derrick Harvey into the mix:

    Florida players coach killers?

    Say it ain't so Del Rio, say it ain't so..:D
     
  12. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    Wow Jaguars have it rough. I saw that monday night game vs. the Titans and I felt sorry for the fans.
     
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  13. djphinfan

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    After studyin his tape predraft, I had him as a bust pick coming out..and was happy as hell when buffalo selected him..
     
  14. padre31

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    Really? I liked him coming out in 09, I thought his body was all wrong for the NFL and he should have stuck in school rather than come out as a Defacto Sophomore.

    There were some shots of him in the gym Deej, and he looked lean like a body builder, I thought he needed to add some thickness to his build.
     
  15. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Wake says hi.
     
  16. padre31

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    Cam Wake is far more of a product of the CFL's BC Lions than Joe Paterno's Nittany Lions, he was considered a bust in 2005 and not drafted, it took two years of learning his craft and winning DPOY in the CFL before Derek Wake transformed into Cameron Wake.
     
  17. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    yes really Pod, do you want me to go all Shouright quasimoto on your *** and pull out my pre draft analysis?..lol:wink2:

    The record would show that one of the reason's why I thought he would be a bust pick is because of what you said yourself...his frame is very thin, popcorn muscles if you will, and to play that position you must have some core power in this league to generate pressure against tackle's.

    One of my quotes was this.

    ''Maybin is the most overrated player being considered in the first round''..
     
  18. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    yup, I met a guy in a sports bar last week that went to school with him when he played..he said that it was obvious to everyone that wake was a freak, but his mind was totally not about football..

    classic case of being born genetically gifted and taking it for granted...

    Not anymore...you wanna talk about core power..this freak is using 1 arm to set the edge against NFL tackle's.
     
  19. padre31

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    Had that impression from watching the CFL.ca videos on him, no more partying for Mr. Wake.

    Bro, the CFL is like being stranded out in the desert, if you don't want to be there, they will get you out of there in 3 days, even if you make the practice roster the weekly stipend is..487 dollars.

    Sort of like the Legion de Etrangere's motto "March or Die", in the CFL it is "show me something or you get an apple and a map and find your own way back home".

    Perfumed Princes like Gholston, Maybin, Harvey, would not make it past a tryout.


    Like his bullrush with one leg down on the ground, Beast said he had never seen that before.

    Something about the CFL's 1 yd wide neutral zone Deej, it forces a player to improve their take off or they just won't make it, Cam's 4 pt stance developed up there, Gruden on the MNF loss to the Pasties said:

    "Look how low he is getting in that 4 point stance, Jason Taylor taught him.."

    Err, no, that was to combat that 1 yd neutral zone in the CFL. In the NFL that means those slow Tackles have to try and block a guy who is used to moving much faster by need, but who now is head up on the Olinemen, it is like a 100 mph fastball.
     
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  20. djphinfan

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    good stuff..yeah man, there is a movie script in there somewhere of this freak's journey..

    Iam also seeing a serious burst and close on the ball carrier, almost like this 250 pounder can run a 4.5.
     
  21. padre31

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    Maybin has the same sort of build Deej, Wake has just developed himself more than Maybin has at any level of the 3 I'd take Maybin, I just believe the dude came out to young, went to a bad fit team, and now has no template for himself and neither do the Bills have one for him.

    Ghost always seemed miscast in NY, and he does not seem to have that "want to", wereas Harvey is just a typical Florida Gator DE, they have a poor tradition going all the way back to Clifford Charlton or Huey Richardson.
     
  22. djphinfan

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    I see differences in their foundation... I think Wake has the best genetic's and measurable's in the league....like I told you before , you gotta check out his rhomboid's..lol...their like big chunks of meat on each side of his back...ridiculous.

    Iam sure maybin was a real skinny kid...probably went on a few cycle's in his day..jmo.
     
  23. padre31

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    2 yrs in the CFL Deej..snow, ice, and a weight room.


    Doubt he is juicing Deej:

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    Over developed frontward leaning muscle structure, chicken legs as well.

    He needs thickness through his upper back and hit the squat rack for Olympic style lifts, not what he had been doing.

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    I mean, look at those chicken legs, his calves are not meant for explosiveness imo.
     
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  24. djphinfan

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    lolo..thats funny dude...were havin fun here at your expense..

    So Padre, as you can tell, the men standing to his left and right in the picture, could put him on his ***..

    Kid tryin to play a man's game..lol.

    Looks to me his plan from the get, was to fool folk's with the body..ala Vern G.

    Bills scout dept. got suckered, shame on them.
     
  25. padre31

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    Not like he was our draft pick...:D



    Yep.



    To me, he is still a young guy, he just turned 22 or 21, but as you can tell he is way under developed, or was, but now the USS Bills has left port without him aboard.

    Add in he missed most of Camp 09, and small wonder the kid is all messed up..

    I'd take a shot on him, stick him on Specials, and leave him there until he discovers his inner Jason Allen...
     
  26. texanphinatic

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    I like Tim Grahams take on Maybin:

     
  27. djphinfan

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    he's only 10 miles from the border, He might as well go all Cam wake and shi#...

    Thats funny what Graham said...

    Funny how professional's {scouting dept's} make mistakes at this level.
     
  28. padre31

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    Imho Maybin is not hungry enough to travel the ten miles to the CFL, as the #11 overall he received millions in bonus monies, a good CFLer is an athletic, and very hungry NFL prospect.

    Max salary Maybin would be offered is 200k, compared to a base 3 million per yr?

    And that is "if" he were extended an offer, the CFL is surprisingly choosey.

    Recall Abe Wright from the 07 draft? He washed out, ditto a guy I was certain could play in the CFL, Brandon Sharpe, he did not last two weeks, this after finishing 2nd in the NCAA in sacks in 09.

    Would not surprise me if Chris McCoy wound up trying out though.
     
  29. djphinfan

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    I wanna keep tab's on Mccoy... if just based on tape,I think we made a mistake letting him go.
     
  30. padre31

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    McCoy is slowly moving northwards, he was released by the seachickens maybe 2 weeks ago, so afaik..FA.

    Dude has the right build for CFL ball, and he needs the time to tighten up.
     
  31. padre31

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    Oh look Aaron Maybin has a rap song:


    http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/21542/a-fine-example-why-humility-is-good-policy


    Let's check in on Vernon Gholston, I believe he did rate a start the other week:


    5 tackles after 8 games.


    Tied with Aaron Maybin with 5 tackles, but Maybin has not been active in the last 3 weeks....
     
  32. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    lol this guy is an idiot.
     
  33. padre31

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    It is like a gruesome train wreck, you know you shouldn't look, but you cannot turn away from it.
     
  34. GreysonWinfield

    GreysonWinfield Release The Hounds

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    I admit I went to his website and I don't know which is funnier: his "rap song" or his "highlight" video.
     
  35. Frumundah Finnatic

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    hmmm let me think about that....No, its more fun this way:up:
     
  36. padre31

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    Wow, Torbor was an indifferent OLB anyway, and Maybin still cannot make it onto the field, Coleman led the SEC in sacks in 09 but was a late rd pick..
     

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