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Aaron Rodgers is Better Than Tom Brady

Discussion in 'Other NFL' started by Galant, Oct 28, 2019.

  1. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member

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    He just is.

    I don't care about the championships. I don't care about the divisional success. Those aren't QB stats.

    Aaron Rodgers is a better QB on a worse team.

    If you don't see that you're either not looking or not thinking.

    Aaron Rodgers has done, and is still doing, that thing everyone says a great QB needs to do - carrying his team. Tom Brady doesn't do that anywhere near as often because his teams are better. Maybe he could do it, but he hasn't had to. Aaron Rodgers though? He's picked up a lame team and hiked it up a mountain several times.

    If Brady is the GOAT, Rodgers is the Mountain GOAT.

    One walks around a petting stall where everyone fawns over him.

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    The other one regularly assails precipitous cliffs and those who look ask, "How on earth has he done that?!"

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  2. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    It's all subjective and depends on what you want to look at. We can easily say Marino was "better" than Brady, but in the end, it's Tom that has the rings.

    I think it's fair to say that if you disolved all rosters and held a league-wide draft (like you could do in old Madden games) that Brady probably isn't a high pick, or even a high QB pick. But ... the dude just keeps on winning, doing just enough.

    The arguing over GOATs and whose better just gets kind of old to me personally.
     
  3. cuchulainn

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    This season for sure the numbers are supporting that...

    Latest Quarterback Efficiency Index. The four worst of qualifiers are no surprise.

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  4. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member

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    It can get old, but what's worse to me is the never-ending references to Brady as the GOAT. He's not. He's not even the best in his generation.

    And this is what I was talking about. Tom Brady hasn't won one single Lombardi trophy. The Patriots have. His rings show that he has contributed on multiple runs, but they say nothing of his significance in those runs. Of course, the rings don't say that he didn't carry the team to victory either. The point is, they're silent on the issue of just how good he is. They should be left out of the conversation.
     
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  5. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    They really can't and shouldn't. It's the entire point of the games, to reach the playoffs, get to the Super Bowl and win. You don't win as many as he has without being a superior QB. Talent-wise is he the greatest QB ever? No. But the wins, the playoff wins and SB wins count. They matter. It's what makes these conversations almost irritatingly pointless.
     
  6. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member

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    So Marino, without a single superbowl win, rates poorly in your estimation?
     
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  7. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Again, it depends on subjective criteria. I find trying to piece together these types of lists in the NFL to be mostly folly. It's fine talk show fodder, but there are so many different variables.

    Talk to a non-Phin fan and ask them who is better between Marino and Brady, and most people likely say Brady. It's just not a conversation I love to have (being fully aware of the irony of getting into this conversation ..). :up:
     
  8. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member

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    Understood, but to focus in, I'm not interested in whether Brady it better than Marino, or vice versa, but how good you consider Marino was considering that he didn't ever enjoy championship victory?
     
  9. Carmen Cygni

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    Brady has the benefit of being under and having being raised by the greatest coach in NFL history. Championships are also a team, coach, staff accomplishment.

    Aaron Rogers is clearly and most definitely the better individual QB.
     
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  10. danmarino

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    That's because most fans don't know what they are watching. They see wins and think individual greatness. In a team sport that mentality is lazy and ignorant. Brady does NOTHING better than Brees, Rodgers, Manning, Marino, Mahomes, Young, or Montana...to name a few greats. He also doesn't do most things better than Watson, Eli, Newton, Flacco, and a number of other average to above average QB's. Sure, he does some things as well and even better, but mostly he's a lucky guy who was thrown into a great situation and has been playing in that same situation for 20 years. Of course he's better now than he was during the Pats' first 3 SB wins. He has never been the major piece in those wins, however. Ernie Adams, BB, their defense, and cheating have ALL been bigger factors than Brady.

    He currently has the 20th best passer rating in the league and the Pats are 7-0. The Pats don't need him now nor have they ever "needed" him. Sure, he's played great, at times, he is HoF worthy (with the cheating it's hard to say 100%)..he is not, however, the GOAT or anywhere near the GOAT.
     
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  11. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member

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    Not sure how the numbers have changed since this was put out but there it is...

     
  12. Conka

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    they both make more money than god. Neither one cares.
    Brady will still be in a SB again this year
     
  13. danmarino

    danmarino Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Doubt it...
     
  14. Conka

    Conka New Member

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    lol, yeah.. I remember the days when I was young and dumb like you, my son.
    last 3 years I doubted it.
    ohhh, but I learned my lesson.
    Doubt it all you want. The league already made sure it will happen. But dont worry, Theyll lose this time
     
  15. danmarino

    danmarino Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    lol...Listen troll. Brady is done. They have a good record against bad teams. I didn't doubt them the last 3 years. You admittedly did. lol

    You're not very bright are you, daughter?
     
  16. Conka

    Conka New Member

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    Has nothing to do with trolling.
    If the sport were real, they'd have been done a decade ago. The records of teams they beat is irrelevant. Everyone sucks in the parity era.
    Team A blows out team B , who blew out team C the week before.
    People who don't realize they are watching entertainment and not competition, are the ones who aren't bright.
     

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