Absolute latest on Harbaugh (5:30 PST)
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padre31luxury_boxOPThis is deal-making time for the 49ers and Jim Harbaugh, if they can get it done.
Maybe by tonight, since an NFL source confirmed 20 minutes ago that the two sides remain in talks, which means they’ve been talking now for several hours.
Maybe, if they choose not to go pell-mell, it could happen tomorrow or the next day, if no barriers rise up.
But this is definitely, assuredly when Jed York and Harbaugh will either cut the deal… or decide there are more serious issues than were first presumed.
Cold hard fact: The source says that there is no deal yet–and that’s as of 5:30–but that’s not terribly concerning for either side, I’d think.
The deal is basically there: The outlines, the concessions, the money parameters the basic framework of the power structure. And I think both sides know the deal is basically there.
It’s the last part that can be the hardest, however.
Sure, Harbaugh could still listen to huge presentations by Denver or Miami. That might delay this even more–and, at this point, any delay beyond tomorrow probably isn’t a good thing for the 49ers.
But right now, no major emergency for York and GM Trent Baalke. They’re getting the first big shot at Harbaugh because Harbaugh probably considers the 49ers his first option.
And they’re still talking.
The words you’re hearing now are “not rushing it” and “making sure it’s the right fit.”
Which, in a mega-deal like this, is usually is code for: This could be about to happen, but no jinxing it, please.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2011/01/05/harbaugh-update-still-talking-with-49ers-as-of-530/
FWIW, for me long meetings are not a good sign as two parties typically want to get a deal done or they do not wish to get a deal done, but this is the NFL and contracts and Organizational Structures built into those deals take time to hash out.
schmoliootsubscriberFor someone who refers to the Harbaugh watch as "hopeathon" you sure are on top of the latest news.
The article is interesting though. If they let Harbaugh leave without a signature it's over.
adamprez2003forum_veteran"padre31 wrote:
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2011/01/05/harbaugh-update-still-talking-with-49ers-as-of-530/
FWIW, for me long meetings are not a good sign as two parties typically want to get a deal done or they do not wish to get a deal done, but this is the NFL and contracts and Organizational Structures built into those deals take time to hash out.
well if you figure he's getting 7 mill per year and its probably for 5 years then yeah they are going to hash it out since we're talking 35 million. you dont sign a 35 million dollar contract in thirty minutes
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GarryowenNew Member"padre31 wrote:
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2011/01/05/harbaugh-update-still-talking-with-49ers-as-of-530/
FWIW, for me long meetings are not a good sign as two parties typically want to get a deal done or they do not wish to get a deal done, but this is the NFL and contracts and Organizational Structures built into those deals take time to hash out.
All of these things are a smoke screen..But as a guy who has had my hopes rise and fall on meetings, long ones are a
sign that a deal is there to be done. I think he's just extorting the Niners. He's in the catbird seat and he knows it.
padre31luxury_box"schmolioot wrote:
For someone who refers to the Harbaugh watch as "hopeathon" you sure are on top of the latest news.
The article is interesting though. If they let Harbaugh leave without a signature it's over.
It is a Hopeathon, what else can it be with so much being invested into a College HC who has never coached a down in the NFL?
I could understand the hopes over Jimmy Johnson as he was fresh off of 2 SB wins but Harbaugh..not so much.
Anywho, I know other people are really interested in Harbaugh coming to Miami so when I run across things of interest I toss them up for my finfans to take a look at for themselves.
SamphinNew Member"adamprez2003 wrote:
well if you figure he's getting 7 mill per year and its probably for 5 years then yeah they are going to hash it out since we're talking 35 million. you dont sign a 35 million dollar contract in thirty minutes
Which are the exact monetary terms I reported over at fanhell.com. You're welcome!
Anyhow, Padre, I disagree about the long meeting being a bad thing. They are meeting right down the street from me currently, which is about 15 minutes from Harbaugh's house on the freeway...sans traffic. The same distance is about an hour on city streets or with traffic on the freeway. Anyone who has lived over here knows that traffic is AWFUL right now at this hour. Chances are they are kicking back and hanging out, waiting for rush hour to finish. :lol:
GarryowenNew Member"Samphin wrote:
Which are the exact monetary terms I reported over at fanhell.com. You're welcome!
Anyhow, Padre, I disagree about the long meeting being a bad thing. They are meeting right down the street from me currently, which is about 15 minutes from Harbaugh's house on the freeway...sans traffic. The same distance is about an hour on city streets or with traffic on the freeway. Anyone who has lived over here knows that traffic is AWFUL right now at this hour. Chances are they are kicking back and hanging out, waiting for rush hour to finish. :lol:
I never had issues on the 101 at all. What? Harbaugh doesn't use BART? ;)
padre31luxury_boxLong meetings can become unfocused and tend to have everything but the kitchen sink brought up.
Well, if you look at the factors SF makes far more sense for Harbaugh, if we miss it we are kind of down to a Cowher, or a Retread, someone already on staff, or Sparano finishes out his contract with a faux extension.
SamphinNew Member"Garryowen wrote:
I never had issues on the 101 at all. What? Harbaugh doesn't use BART? ;)
101 South is a nightmare from 5 until about 7 or 8. Always has been. 280, on the other hand, is like this magical freeway that no one ever knows or uses. It really is mindboggling.
And BART doesn't head beyond Burlingame currently. Although there are plans to have it expanded to San Jose over the next couple of years.
SamphinNew Member"padre31 wrote:
Long meetings can become unfocused and tend to have everything but the kitchen sink brought up.
Well, if you look at the factors SF makes far more sense for Harbaugh, if we miss it we are kind of down to a Cowher, or a Retread, someone already on staff, or Sparano finishes out his contract with a faux extension.
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Finfangirlluxury_box"Samphin wrote:
Which are the exact monetary terms I reported over at fanhell.com. You're welcome!
Anyhow, Padre, I disagree about the long meeting being a bad thing. They are meeting right down the street from me currently, which is about 15 minutes from Harbaugh's house on the freeway...sans traffic. The same distance is about an hour on city streets or with traffic on the freeway. Anyone who has lived over here knows that traffic is AWFUL right now at this hour. Chances are they are kicking back and hanging out, waiting for rush hour to finish. :lol:
Or they went to benihana for a drink and some flying onions!
SamphinNew Member"Finfangirl wrote:
Or they went to benihana for a drink and some flying onions!
Maybe that is the dealbreaker...Harbaugh prefers Hana Japan!
Finfangirlluxury_boxi wouldnt drive on 101 now if someone paid me 7 million dollars...I hate traffic that much and these west coast drivers are AWFUL to begin with let alone in traffic.....
280 on the other hand....seriously why dont people use it more, there is never a soul on it.
padre31luxury_box"Samphin wrote:
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What? We have leapt from god awful to mediocrity!
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Eh, way I see it, add a vet Qb, new ST coach we have a much easier schedule this season.
SamphinNew Member"Finfangirl wrote:
i wouldnt drive on 101 now if someone paid me 7 million dollars...I hate traffic that much and these west coast drivers are AWFUL to begin with let alone in traffic.....
280 on the other hand....seriously why dont people use it more, there is never a soul on it.
The drivers here are pretty bad, but I was just in New Jersey and those people are sadistic by comparison, imo.
And yeah, I jump on to 280 just about every morning and laugh at everyone who is about 2 miles east of me, sitting in traffic. :lol:
SamphinNew Member"padre31 wrote:
What? We have leapt from god awful to mediocrity!
Laissez les bons temps rollez!
Eh, way I see it, add a vet Qb, new ST coach we have a much easier schedule this season.
Meh, we are better than we were, but good times don't roll with two consecutive losing seasons and possibly more question marks than answers across the board, talent wise.
Rocky RaccoonmoderatorSam get your ass over there and disrupt the negotiations.
padre31luxury_box"Samphin wrote:
Meh, we are better than we were, but good times don't roll with two consecutive losing seasons and possibly more question marks than answers across the board, talent wise.
TBH, that is one of the reasons why I am not wild about the idea of a coaching change, we have two huge questions at Qb and on the Oline, that is really the limit that can be plugged in one normal offseason, add in a Coaching change and things could become much much worse.
Not to worried about running back as they are fairly easy to find, far more concerned with Vern Carey's knee issues, if he needs that specialized surgery that will be 4 of 5 oline positions have to be filled.
That lockout is going to put teams that switch staffs behind in every phase of the game.
SamphinNew Member"Rocky Raccoon wrote:
Sam get your ass over there and disrupt the negotiations.
Uhm...I don't even want Harbaugh as the coach. As far as I am concerned, I prefer the negotiations go well between the Niners and Jimmy.
Desidesforum_veteranChris Mortensen on Twitter:
Filed to ESPN: Dolphins owner Steve Ross has traveled west to make an urgent pitch to Jim Harbaugh to become their next coach
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Frayserforum_veteranYou are fast, D. I was just posting that.
padre31luxury_boxmortreport Chris Mortensen
Filed to ESPN: Dolphins owner Steve Ross has traveled west to make an urgent pitch to Jim Harbaugh to become their next coach
Shades of Wayne H and Saban..this is pathetic.
GarryowenNew Member"Samphin wrote:
101 South is a nightmare from 5 until about 7 or 8. Always has been. 280, on the other hand, is like this magical freeway that no one ever knows or uses. It really is mindboggling.
And BART doesn't head beyond Burlingame currently. Although there are plans to have it expanded to San Jose over the next couple of years.
They were talking about San Jose when I was out there last. I has assumed it had made it that far south. I guess I remember the 101 differently. I supervised (For a short time) a service industry with stations in SJ, Oakland, SF, Modesto, and, Sacramento. I could make the whole circut
in just about 12 hours. I always used the bridge that runs over Half Moon bay...Or that exit...And I never had any issue attacking the run from the south
and running up. I do remember a Cesna landing on the Highway around Tracy one day.....THAT pissed me off.
DolfanJakeNew Member"Desides wrote:
Chris Mortensen on Twitter:
Unless he gets Harbaugh he really looks the assclown, because Harbaugh is just using him to get all he wants from the 49er's. Ross is looking less intelligent by the minute.
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Desidesforum_veteran"Frayser wrote:
You are fast, D. I was just posting that.
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