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Agent David Canter suggesting Soliai won't be here next year

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Disgustipate, Sep 7, 2013.

  1. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    https://twitter.com/davidcanter

    There's a whole lot more there, it's all grossly unprofessional and bitter. At the end of the day though, I think they most certainly need to be paying Soliai like a rotational player or letting him walk. A two-down Nose Tackle needs to be pretty dominant to justify a big price, and that hasn't been Soliai since his breakout year. They will hopefully focus on finding a guy who can do the job as well and rush the passer.
     
  2. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    Lol Canter wants Ireland out...nobody likes that guy.

    RT @IamJClary: @davidcanter Not all deals get done while player still in contract, perhaps patience is a virtue.

    RT @davidcanter: @IamJClary patience for a regime change yes
     
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  3. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    Gotta love agents. He is in a pretty safe spot in that Soliai is going to get paid, regardless. Nonetheless, it would be sweet to see Ireland go all Ned Colletti on Canter and just completely freeze him and all of his clients out, going forward.

    I hope for David and Paul's sake that he has a great, non-injured year. Otherwise, this will come back to bite him.
     
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  4. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Rosen Staff Member Club Member

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    I dont see any way that we sign both Starks and Soliai after the season. Odrick takes one spot, and we resign at most one of them, but maybe let both walk if their cash dreams are too big.
     
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  5. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    Canter is a dunce.
     
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  6. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    Well Barry Jackson says we've made offers to both...

    RT @flasportsbuzz: Quick Fins note during UM-UF break:@ArmandoSalguero and I confirmed that Fins have made offers to 2014 FAs Soliai and Starks....
     
  7. TNphinfan

    TNphinfan Always soo close... Club Member

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    Can't negotiate a deal with Starks till after the season though right?
     
  8. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think it will be, and probably should be both. They're pretty good players who look dominant at times, and they're both in a position to make more money than they are worth on the open market.
     
  9. Anonymous

    Anonymous Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I love Ireland.


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  10. RickyBobby

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    If I was Paul I wouldn't be happy about my agent doing this.
     
  11. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Good, We don't need soliai. We need Randy Starks more, but were apparently lowballing him too. Hopefully well get something done next off-season.
     
  12. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Soliai should find a better agent. Canter is pretty unprofessional doing what he does on twitter.
     
  13. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    He certainly isn't helping his client.
     
  14. FanMarino

    FanMarino Season Ticket Holder

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    I hate Agents. Biggest blood sucking leeches by definition. They are Sports version of Pimps. Nothing more.
     
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  15. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't see why you should hate them, their job is a bit opposed to your interests as a fan, but they're also paid to do a legitimate service for a player.
     
  16. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Players started using agents because teams would not negotiate with them in good faith and fairly otherwise.
     
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  17. FanMarino

    FanMarino Season Ticket Holder

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    I just don't have much respect for them. They have too much say and power regarding a players career. My opinion of them goes way back. Just look at the Elway 83 fiasco. Marvin Demoff threw in that Baseball crud. That's what Agents do imo. They play the game. They rock the boat because they can. It is what it is but i just think agents are there for one reason. $$$ Just my take.
     
  18. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    They aren't operating contrary to their clients wishes, and part of their job is to take the public relations heat for the player.
     
  19. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Moderator Staff Member Club Member

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    Interesting. This is contrary to what Barry Jackson said earlier this offseason.
     
  20. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Of course an agent wants something to change when a team is leaving $20M in their pockets that could be going to players.

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  21. Sippi

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    If true, it's another reason AJ Francis should have made the final 53.
     
  22. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    trying to read thru all Canter's tweets... he seems to be holding the Sean Smith (he is Sean's agent too) contract negotiations against the team. He's doing Soliai a disservice if he doesn't separate the two players.
     
  23. FanMarino

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    Gotta love that biased money orientated opinion. Does this clown have a crystal ball up his a**? No.
     
  24. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    That's the problem with them, and the main reason I can't stomach them, is their never-ending conceit and sense of entitlement. Yes, they're a necessary evil to keep the NFL and their franchises from sticking it to the players on sh***y contracts/deals, but when they try to act like they believe they're a bona-fide celebrity themselves, they can suck it. High paid leech this guy.
     
  25. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Right...last I checked, the guy that makes that decision has a MUCH fatter bank account than this roach.
     
  26. PhinGeneral

    PhinGeneral PC Texas A&M, Bro Club Member

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    You may get your wish yet.... From RotoWorld

     
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  27. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Snag a Dolphins cast-off...Check!

    Juice him for info...Check!

    Cast him aside 'cuz who REALLY thought we'd pay 'da man...Check!
     
  28. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Hopefully we re-sign him for the PS.
     
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  29. Gunner

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    I don't mind Canter's feelings about how we negotiate contracts with his players or wants to maximize every penny he can for his players. I don't care that that he hates us and will do everything in his power to take his clients elsewhere. What does piss me off is that he is doing it in public. If the team isn't making snarky comments in the press or on twitter, then it should be frowned upon by all agencies. Outside of that, Canter can go after all the money he feels his player deserve ... even if it is an absurd amount.
     
  30. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't think they're going to get a lot of information from a defensive linemen, much less someone who only seems to play 1-technique. We're also pretty far out from playing them.
     
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  31. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Do you suggest players negotiate deals by themselves then?

    They make a percentage of what they get for the clients. Their interests are [usually] aligned with the players. Without them, owners and GMs would be bending the players over and having them grab their own ankles.
     
  32. PhinishLine

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    Players would be at a tremendous disadvantage negotiating terms and understanding terms of agreements with entities that have teams of lawyers and beyond. The agent just doesn't work on your deal with the team, but your other endorsements and career development. Your agent shops you and advocates for you when you need a job. It's extremely difficulty to be your own representation and stay in peak physical shape and maintain the focus you need to be at your best.
     
  33. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Yeah, I personally don't mind Canter because he's one of the agents that actually takes time to talk to you on twitter. Which is kinda cool.
     
  34. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    you and me both. that would be great!!!
     
  35. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    well, you have to ask yourself this question. How did the media come to know (and report) that we have contract offers out to both Soliai and Starks? The agents didn't tell them this. The players didn't tell them this. The coaches wouldn't dare tell them this. You get where this is going?
     
  36. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It's a PR war and the agent levels the playing field a little.
     
  37. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    Juice him for info?

    The teams don't meet until week 8.
     
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  38. Gunner

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    Unless I missed an anonymous quote from a team official somewhere, there hasn't been any indication it was from the Fins. So any inference by we readers is only speculation. There is as good a chance this "leak" to the media was generated from the same agent ranting on twitter as it was from us.
     
  39. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Hmm you'd think this Canter guy makes more money when the contract is bigger. That would make some people one dimensional.
     
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  40. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Barry Jackson ‏@flasportsbuzz 9h
    Quick Fins note during UM-UF break:@ArmandoSalguero and I confirmed that Fins have made offers to 2014 FAs Soliai and Starks....

    Trust me, if Salguero is reporting this, he's getting the information from the team directly. Salguero is a known Ireland mouthpiece. The fact that they confirmed this during the UM/Florida game obviously places it after Canter went off on twitter this morning. So the team is responding to the agent. They were not putting the information out there beforehand. This is Ireland saying, "Canter, if you want to **** with me, I'll **** with you back"... ahhh... contract negotiations. Such a lovely and festive thing.
     

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