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Ancient tools found in remote mine

Discussion in 'Science & Technology' started by peastri, Apr 6, 2008.

  1. peastri

    peastri iD'Artiste Luxury Box

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    For all you archaeology buffs out there.

    This kind of ancient history doesn't particularly interest me but I do find it fascinating that such simple objects can survive this long.


    Depending on how in depth this information is it would be interesting to compare to more recent climate changes to see whether in fact the recent changes are a result of humanity's disdain for the earth or whether they are part of a more natural cycle, something which we can't control.


    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23496525-421,00.html
     
  2. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    Oh really, I never knew Vinny Testeverde grew up in Australia. Or don't all really old tools come from Austrailia?

    On a serious note, that is pretty sweet. It would be awesome to be able to predict climate changes. It could even lead to break through research that could help in predicting (or maybe preventing) hurricanes, and other dangerous weather phenomenon.
     
  3. alen1

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    Sorry to get off topic guys but since you mentioned hurriacnes,I have a question. Is there any way you could slow them down? I saw a thing on the news stating that if they had a 300 ft long and wide pipe, they could slow down the hurricane by running the pipe through the eye. Is this possible?
     
  4. azfinfanmang

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    A 300 ft long AND wide Pipe? Only if Superman was holding one end me thinks...
     
  5. cnc66

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    sorry Penny...

    no alen, the dynamics are much larger that 300x300. I love hurricanes and will happily discuss or answer questions, but not in this thread. This is the best weather site I know of( and I have a bunch I peruse).. here is the tropical page.. Dr Masters blog is also archived, I think he is one of our better hurricane forcasters.. http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/


    back to topic;
    Ron and I were discussing stone tools, and knapping them this last weekend, the oldest one "I" have ever found was a beveled bolen, 10,000 years old.. but that is about the total age of man IN Florida.. 40 thousand years is a staggering amount of time in terms of "us". That would very nearly be part of the original migration and spread from Africa of earliest homo sapien. It didn't say.. were they "Mungo men" like down in South Wales? One of those was 40 thousand years old and was buried covered in red ochre. Pretty old for a ceremony
     
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  6. azfinfanmang

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    Good point Marty, 40,000 even in archeological time frame is OLD...and very very old for a "Formal ceremony".
     
  7. peastri

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    yeah in western New South Wales... there's a tiny bit in the article on it:

     
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    Mundo Man.. sorry.. just watched Blazing Saddles.. got Mongo on my brain

    I nosed around looking for migration timelines and HSS (Homo Sapien Sapien) arrived there about 50 thousand years ago.. and indeed it was part of the first HSS migration out of Africa.
     
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  9. azfinfanmang

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    Dang Marty. You are taking me back 22 years. I tried my hand at being an Anthropology major right out of High School...probably why I dropped out of college the first time.. Could never understand why it is Sapien Sapien.. :lol:
     
  10. Celtkin

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    I hear he was a Homo
     
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  11. peastri

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    it's because their english wasn't very good back then.
     
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  12. azfinfanmang

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    :sidelol::sidelol:

    BTW: Love the signature Miss DM.....:hi5:
     
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    break it down.. homo means man.. sapien means wise and/or rational, the oldest homo "sapien" would be homo sapiens idaltu "elderly wise man" (if you subscribe to out of Africa, and I do) Modern humans, were one of two subspecie from idaltu;
    Homo sapiens neanderthalensis "Neander valley wise man" now extinct and
    Homo sapiens sapiens "rational wise man" So, we are the wisest of the homo sapiens tree, and the only surviving one.
     
  14. azfinfanmang

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    Thanks bro.:up:

    I will have to see if Beverly Larson still teaches at UNM and let her know I FINALLY get it..kindve. :lol:

    One of the few things I got out of that episode in life is the meaning of IN SITU . :up:..oh yeah, and in true following of Chaco civilization which turned into the Bandelier Civilization and eventually the Pueblo's of Northern New Mexico; Cochiti, San Ildefonso, San Jaun etc etc etc...I can carve an arrowhead out of obsidien...I might not even cut the bajeezus out of myself in the process...but actually chances are much better that I would...:pity:

    Sorry for hyjacking again Penny
     
  15. peastri

    peastri iD'Artiste Luxury Box

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    oh no come on now, you know that's not true
     
  16. Celtkin

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    I can see what may come so I offer these video rebuttals before the fact:

    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCayG4IIOEQ[/media]

    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8edyoZFW-Lg[/media]
     
  17. azfinfanmang

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    Sorry, I think my old "Hard-drive" is too full for so much information..:lol:


    Good clips Mal..:up:
     
  18. Celtkin

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    PS: The gentleman who narrates the videos above has a 10-part series that covers a range of topics from the big bang to DNA. He is an Australian science journalist with a geology degree and is very good at making science simple enough to understand without dumbing things down. I will be happy to send links for the series if anyone is interested.
     
  19. azfinfanmang

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    Sign me up bro. :hi5:
     
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  21. Themole

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    Well, where have you been then? Marty, and I had a nice little discussion going last week on just that topic.

    I've been wanting to discuss technique with someone with experience.

    BTW...stick your hands in the air. I'm relieving you of all your obsidian.
     

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