Andy Reid as a prospective coach?

48 replies

Dec 2, 2011, 11:30 AM

I say this all the time, there's only been 44 Superbowl winners. 44 Champions. There is just not enough winning to go around. And so many intangibles have to happen for it to be your team. There's no sure fire coach or path to a Superbowl. I just want to be in the mix every December.

This, a million times this. You people honestly think we can look Andy Reid and say "meh"?

MonstBlitz;2232016 wrote:

It wouldn't surprise me if he is retained. Jeff Ireland is the nightmare that won't end. The **** stain you cannot flush. The Herpes for which there is no cure.

Sethdaddy8Sethdaddy8Forum Veteran
Dec 2, 2011, 11:36 AM

The problem with this thread is, Lurie will not fire Reid. If he does, it will be the biggest bonehead owner blunder since Bowlen fired Shanahan, and broke up Cutler, Marshall, and Hillis.

Sethdaddy8Sethdaddy8Forum Veteran
Dec 2, 2011, 11:40 AM

"Dorfdad wrote:

Correction his defense well Jim's defense. Jims gone now and you can see the result with your own eyes. Andy being an offensive coach hasn't done squat really. They always choke. No thanks

Who do you want Cowher? It took Cowher 15 years to win a Superbowl, with a whole let less success along the way. Maybe Reid wins one by his 14th year...then what? Always choke? Only one team can win. Thinking like this will keep us out of the play-offs for another decade, and keep our games meaningless in December for another decade as well.

MikeHonchoMikeHonchoSupporter
Dec 2, 2011, 12:00 PM

Sign Reid. Add picks in a trade for Gary Kubiak. Problem?

Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.

KB21KB21Supporter
Dec 2, 2011, 12:05 PM

"KingMotion wrote:

So those years when he did more with less don't count because he has a team that was poorly constituted by his GM?

He is the GM. Well, he at least has final say on all personnel decisions even if someone else has the title of GM.

gafinfangafinfanSupporter
Dec 2, 2011, 12:52 PM

53 stars do not make a TEAM. Andy Reid is not only a fool he is an arrogent fool for there have been many others before him to do what he has done this season and failed just as he is doing, Don Shula sadly comes to mind as one other, throw in Dan Synder for 10 years and you have another!

I don't want him anywhere near the Dolphins and don't give a damn what his record says! In my mind this year alone shows what kind of HC/GM we'll be getting!


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Sethdaddy8Sethdaddy8Forum Veteran
Dec 2, 2011, 01:00 PM

"gafinfan wrote:

53 stars do not make a TEAM. Andy Reid is not only a fool he is an arrogent fool for there have been many others before him to do what he has done this season and failed just as he is doing, Don Shula sadly comes to mind as one other, throw in Dan Synder for 10 years and you have another!

I don't want him anywhere near the Dolphins and don't give a damn what his record says! In my mind this year alone shows what kind of HC/GM we'll be getting!

Backfired on Bellicheat too, when they came 30 seconds from going 19-0. Thats a nice job of holding Vince Young's thoughtless, stupid, casual comment against Andy Reid.

thisperishedminthisperishedminForum Veteran
Dec 2, 2011, 01:30 PM

No to Reid. As many have said he lacks the in game management and adjustment something horrible.

The great eagles were riding the pure talent of mcnabb and a jim johnson defense. Look where the eagles are now. Last year they rode some luck and pure talent of Vick to get where they did, but its a team in shambles. The talent acquisition via draft and long term planning was awful, thus the scramble this off season. Look at the moves they made in the offseason and evaluate the implications of that going forward. Thats not what I want in Miami.

The truth is that Reid is an amazing x's and o's guy and did some great game planning...but once a team adjusted to the plan in game, or they found themselves in a situation requiring hurry up or clock burning, they often fail to get it done. In the end, alot of his success, as stated, was riding an incredible (at the time, at least) QB and an extremely talented D coordinator and built defense.

No nonono. No thanks.

GreysonWinfieldGreysonWinfieldNew Member
Dec 2, 2011, 01:30 PM

Will he wear his magic underwear on the sidelines and will it bring us success? If so hire him.

One game at a time: Your 2016 Miami Dolphins.
A team without leadership, players without heart: Your 2015 Miami Dolphins.
Carrying on a decade plus of underachieving and mediocrity: Your 2014 Miami Dolphins.
Pissing on your dreams and tearing your heart out: Your 2013 Miami Dolphins.

MonstBlitzMonstBlitzForum Veteran
Dec 2, 2011, 01:32 PM

Yes. He can produce offense with any QB. If he were available, and I were an NFL owner (which I'm not (sadly)) he would be at the top of my wish list. Even if Gruden and Cowher both wanted to coach for me. To me Andy Reid is a great coach having a bad year.

maynardmaynardNew Member
Dec 2, 2011, 01:33 PM

i think that in general, i would say that Reid has been able to get his players to play above their talent level. that is one hell of a thing. but that also means that his player selection hasnt been that great, so that would be a sticking point

but i dont watch much eagles games, so idk.

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JWjw3102Forum Veteran
Dec 2, 2011, 01:34 PM

"Dolphin1184 wrote:

As long as we don't get Vince Young with him.

I agree totally with you. I think Reid has worn out his welcome in Philly and a change of teams would benefit him. I think he would be an excellent choice for the Dolphins if he becomes available. Young on the other hand is not someone I would like to see as a QB on the Dolphins. Some individuals on this forum have called for the Dolphins to go after Young when he becomes a free agent after this season. I have always felt Young is a head case who will never be productive over the course of an entire season. I believe the Dolphins need to use their first pick in the draft on a QB, but I would take Matt Moore over Vince Young, any day of the week.

maynardmaynardNew Member
Dec 2, 2011, 01:36 PM

"thisperishedmin wrote:

No to Reid. As many have said he lacks the in game management and adjustment something horrible.

The great eagles were riding the pure talent of mcnabb and a jim johnson defense. Look where the eagles are now. Last year they rode some luck and pure talent of Vick to get where they did, but its a team in shambles. The talent acquisition via draft and long term planning was awful, thus the scramble this off season. Look at the moves they made in the offseason and evaluate the implications of that going forward. Thats not what I want in Miami.

The truth is that Reid is an amazing x's and o's guy and did some great game planning...but once a team adjusted to the plan in game, or they found themselves in a situation requiring hurry up or clock burning, they often fail to get it done. In the end, alot of his success, as stated, was riding an incredible (at the time, at least) QB and an extremely talented D coordinator and built defense.

No nonono. No thanks.

a couple of weeks ago Warren Sapp was saying that in game adjustments are over rated and very difficult to do. not sure if its true or not, but its what he said

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BlameItOnTheHenneBlameItOnTheHenneForum Veteran
Dec 2, 2011, 01:41 PM

Sure.

GreysonWinfieldGreysonWinfieldNew Member
Dec 2, 2011, 04:34 PM

He has 2 years on his contract @ 4 million per year. Laurie is not risking parting with 8 million. Hate to rain on everyones parade.

One game at a time: Your 2016 Miami Dolphins.
A team without leadership, players without heart: Your 2015 Miami Dolphins.
Carrying on a decade plus of underachieving and mediocrity: Your 2014 Miami Dolphins.
Pissing on your dreams and tearing your heart out: Your 2013 Miami Dolphins.

DSdsteveNew Member
Dec 2, 2011, 04:58 PM

yeah because i want another loser coach who hasnt done anything in the NFL.

PIpitted151New Member
Dec 2, 2011, 05:04 PM

"dsteve wrote:

yeah because i want another loser coach who hasnt done anything in the NFL.

LOL!!.....Might as well just bring back Parcells, cuz "look at his track record after all", he won 2 super bowls a million years ago!

I BEEN RIGHT ALL ALONG........PARCELLS WAS THE WORST HIRE IN DOLPHIN HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!

FanMarinoFanMarinoNew Member
Dec 2, 2011, 06:51 PM

I don't like Phillys scripted plays on their 1st drive every game. You can't argue with Reids record though. Shame for him his LB's can't tackle and Young sucks.

Sethdaddy8Sethdaddy8Forum Veteran
Dec 2, 2011, 11:24 PM

"dsteve wrote:

yeah because i want another loser coach who hasnt done anything in the NFL.

"pitted151 wrote:

LOL!!.....Might as well just bring back Parcells, cuz "look at his track record after all", he won 2 super bowls a million years ago!

Yous guyz iz right!!!! We should sign da Harbaugh Bruddas !!!!

BlameItOnTheHenneBlameItOnTheHenneForum Veteran
Dec 2, 2011, 11:27 PM

"dsteve wrote:

yeah because i want another loser coach who hasnt done anything in the NFL.

You always seem to outdo yourself. I am amazed.

The_Dark_KnightThe_Dark_KnightForum Veteran
Dec 3, 2011, 01:39 AM

You know, I've been giving this some thought. Under Andy Reid, the Eagles have been...

2011: 4-8 to date
2010: 10-6, NFC East Division Champions, lost to Green Bay in NFC Wild Card game
2009: 11-5, 2nd in NFC East, lost to Dallas in NFC Wild Card game
2008: 9-6-1, 2nd NFC East, lost NFC Championship game to Arizona
2007: 8-8, 4th NFC East, missed playoffs
2006: 10-6, NFC East Division Champions, lost NFC Division game to New Orleans
2005: 6-10, 4th NFC East, mised playoffs
2004: 13-3, NFC East Champions, lost Super Bowl to New England
2003: 12-4, NFC East Champions, lost NFC Championship game to Carolina
2002: 12-4, NFC East Champions, lost NFC Championship to Tampa Bay
2001: 11-5, NFC East Champions, lost NFC Championship to St Louis
2000: 11-5, 2nd in NFC East, lost NFC Division game to New York Giants
1999: 5-11, 4th in NFC East, missed playoffs.

Now I know I said I was on the fence about Andy Reid earlier, but as I said, I've been giving this some thought. He hasn't been a one hit wonder. He's CONSISTENTLY produced year after year while in Philly, with only 2 losing seasons, 3 missed playoff appearances (this year likely to be 4), 5 conference championship appearances, 6 Division championships and a record of 122-81-1 (.598 to date). He, like other teams are having a bad year which I said before the beginning of the season, the lockout was going to make this a wild season.

Compare Reid to our legendary coach in his first 13 seasons with the Dolphins, Shula was 130-53-2 (.702), 1 losing season, 3 Super Bowl apppearances (2 SB Championships) 4 conference championships, 7 Division Championships. Like Reid, Shula consistently produced winners and like Don Shula, the Philadelphia Eagles won't fire Andy Reid. If they did, they would be the equivalent to the 1969 Baltimore Colts when they let Shula get away and go to Miami.

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VanDolPhanVanDolPhanSupporter
Dec 3, 2011, 07:54 AM

When considering Reid you gotta remember he's had a pretty damn good GM over there.

If no one takes him as a head coach I'd love to pair him up as an OC with Barkley...but as a HC....I'll pass.

PSGPSGForum Veteran
Dec 6, 2011, 12:05 PM

You guys who dont want Andy Reid....I dont quite get what you are looking for. It obviously isnt stability and consistancy.

BlameItOnTheHenneBlameItOnTheHenneForum Veteran
Dec 6, 2011, 12:16 PM

His run from 2000 to 2004 was pretty amazing. And the Eagles are allergic to winning super bowls, so I don't blame him for not winning one.