Appreciating Wake

I couldn't compare him to jt cos I never saw enough but for me wake is as good as anyone else out there. I get that jj watt is super talented but I'm disappointed that Cameron doesn't get the same props. He's as good a pick up as anyone out there.

 

Why man, why?

 

cool, and FWIW I appreciate Wake. But he's not even close to JT. This is not a knock but this past season imho was the first time wake made a "game changing" play. The walk-off safety.

 

Not just sacks, but sacks on the money down, 3rd. When we needed drive ending plays they were few and far between. The qbs(many 2nd stringers) had plenty of time in the pocket. And wake wasn't always double teamed.

 

Well we'll have to agree to disagree. Wake is D. Freeney w/o the spin move. He has no counters. He solely relies on his speed. As I said previously Wake is a feast or famine DE when it comes to sks. IMO, he should have concentrated on neutralizing his man first on his way to the qb instead of always trying to beat his man to a spot. Why do the other top DEs not have the problem of constantly being held?

 

In that case let's make this a 100 page type thread.

 

It's hard to say who is better, but it's good to be in a position to argue about it. To me, Wake is about the closest thing to having a JT these days, and I think he's the best player on the team.

Slight JT tangent: anybody remember the Raiders game (now many years ago) where JT sacked Gannon on the first 2 plays? He sent a personal message to the Raiders that they weren't going to win that day.

I think Wake can strike that same kind of fear into a team.

 

Well, I'd like him to become a better leader..

 

I love Wake but IMO JT is the better football player by a significant margin.

 

I'd like for him to develop a spin move and step up to RDE, thats where the elite pass rushers traditionally rush from.

 

Not sure why he hasn't, maybe he's not an ambiturner.

 

Wake is really good but JT was down right incredible. He changed the outcome of games by himself. Imo dion Jordan has a better chance of being like JT.

 

I pretty much agree, though Taylor had significantly better coaching and surrounding talent, IMO. I'm not trying to take anything away from JT, mind, because I do think you're right. I just think it's tough to rank people with all the variables.

 

I'd love to see him stay at LDE and see Jordan step up at RDE. That would be at least two holding penalties occurring on every play, and that would be multiple coaches losing sleep in preparation. This is all dependent on two things: Jordan getting better and, perhaps more important, the coaching staff actually putting him on the field.

 

Wake kills with power as well. He eats OT's alive.