Yikes, glad to see the dolphins arent on the laughing end of that deal!

 

I haven't a clue what people see in this QB.

 

so is this official ?

 

I very much would like to see Orton in Miami, a 5 yr 25 million and 5 million dollar bonus and a #2 is about in line with what a lower tiered Starting Qb would pull down...but to throw in DRC as well?

That would be like us tossing in Vontae Davis, and that is just crazy talk.

 

I wish The Dolphins were on the laughing end... because the eagles are going to be the only ones laughing all the way to the bank.

 

Idiots.

Thank god our front office isn't THAT stupid.

 

Kolb has a horseshoe up his ***. How much in guaranteed money has he gotten now off 3 contracts. Rediculous.

 

well, lets wait for the orton compensation.....we´ll see maybe eagles and broncos officials have a little laugh together

 

Hope it goes threw so they won't be jacking the price for Orton up.

 

Lost a ton of value in giving up DRC in that deal, the Eagles rooked them, Cards have to keep Fitz happy but that does not work very often.

Eagles won in 3 ways:

-#2 pick that figures to be Top 45
-Cleared Kolb's 3-4 million off of the books
-Got a young highly talented, proven, starting Cb

 

His market just left town, he is the last Qb standing in the game of musical chairs.

Adding Vince Young to the mix means he has even less of a market, watch Young wind up in Philly with the money they would have paid Kolb if he stayed.

 

Or Orton...

 

you know what i meant :lol:

 

Please tell me you did NOT just jinx us...

 

I wouldn't of given up DRC for Kolb...much less adding a 2nd round pick....wow

 

Good. I'm glad this deal went down if for no other reason than it means Denver can't extort us for Orton: the other bidders in the Orton sweepstakes have all obtained alternatives. Seattle signed Tarvaris Jackson and Sidney Rice, Arizona is trading for Kolb, and the Titans signed Hasselbeck.

I don't want Kyle Orton at all, but at least we don't have to give up even higher compensation for him now.

 

I think he is still on his rookie contract.

 

Oh they wont be laughing if Vick gets hurt especially with them talking SB.

 

Just gotta hope Snyder is in love with VY and doesn't step in. Cannot buy they will go into a season with Beck and Grossman.

 

Are you kidding?

Orton has thrown close to twice as many TD than Int for two straight years.

But more importantly, has improved his play every year he’s been in the league.

Ireland is after this guy because Orton is the best available QB this year. He may not have the upside some of the draft picks have, but should easily outperform them for the next few years.

 

Wow.. i mean, i think Kolb will be good, but wow... thats a lot.

 

So, who do you think will have a better season, assuming things go according to plan? Kolb in Arizona or Orton in Miami?
Orton should end up with more wins, but Kolb may have more TDs in that offense. If we can have our 3 headed RBC with D Thomas, Bradshaw and Ronnie? with an improved Oline, Orton gives us 9-10 wins.

 

Well, they are losing Breaston as well, and Wiz is supposed to be moving to more of a run oriented offense.

Toss up, except the Cards play in such a weak division so Kolb will do quite well I'd think.

Their SB team is just about dismantled at this point though.

 

-Franchise Suicide-

 

Didn't know they were losing Breaston. but the division is a big factor IMO.

 

They're not going in with Beck and Grossman, they're going in with Beck and Kellen Clemens. :lol:

 

Hey Matt, how do we get back on the right track? ;)

 

I fail to see what some see in Kolb as a franchise quarterback. He's nothing more than a checkdown machine. He's much worse than Henne, IMO.

 

I agree totally. Henne has done more in this league than Kolb has. With the latter it's all about potential. If it were based on production, Henne should bring more in a trade than Kolb will.

 

Or Henne......

 

I'm not as down on Kolb as everyone else.

People are saying how this is franchise/career suicide for those involved in Arizona. What about Philly? I mean we talked about their "window" closing a couple years ago. This rejuvenated that secondary, frees up some cash flow, and gets an extra pick. As bad as the Cardinals may look, Andy Reid and those guys did a great job maneuvering this deal. Why get Asmougha, when you bring in DRC cheaper, younger, and with no financial burden?

 

Every time I watch that clip, I still laugh like crazy. :lol:

 

Peyton Manning is the best available quarterback this year.

They see Kolb's two games off the bench in 2009 where he was pretty good and ignore his 2010.

 

Manning has a franchise tag. How is he available?

 

gave up everything but the kitchen sink, and whats the point in having the sink if you have nothing to clean