If its me or the bear,I hope its the bear that loses everytime. http://youtube.com/watch?v=LZnsL7-UdGc&feature=related
Sorry man...while I see nothing wrong with hunting deer (population control, food) I don't see any purpose for hunting bears other than for sport. Especially when they kill the mother and leave the cub an orphan.
bear can not only be a nuisance, but they can be downright dangerous near populated areas. I can't tell where that is, but I'd guess Canada or Alaska. What's with that yahoo stepping in front of a guy's rifle to stand up and hoot and holler at a charging bear? Lucky he didn't get Cheney'd
Right on. What kills me is these men are acting like they`re some kind of gods gift to outdoor life. They put themselves in a position to be mauled,and rightfully so. If these guys were home minding their own business I doubt very much they would be the target of a bear attack. But,to willingly subject themselves to danger and then applaud their actions later makes no sense. Hey,if a man stands on top of a skyscraper during a lightning storm holding a metal rod and lives to tell about it he`s still an idiot.
i dont like hunting, i like animals a lot. i'd feel bad putting one of these things down. but i dont bash hunting or hunters...except when they suck and just maim these poor animals, and they have to limp off into the wild wounded.
I disagree, I've seen bear in my neighborhood a few different times, they just keep getting closer and closer to the populated areas. Add to that the fact that the NYS DEC imported mountain lions to keep the deer population in check and they've been running terror here as well, although the DEC denies bringing them into the area even though their tags are on them. Anyway, while I hated to see that cub orphaned, as a hunter you have to protect yourself in that situation. It's either you or the animal.
Yeah, that's the thing, if you are a responsible hunter and follow the rules and respect the wildlife, then I have no problem with them. It's the irresponsible ones who are careless that bother me.
i absolutely agree here. i grew up in PA and upstate NY, predominately farm country. i have seen what happens when animal populations start to get out of control. road kills increase as well as damage to crops. most of the hunters i have known only make trophies of the head and pretty much eat everything else. in this case, see my response above. that would apply to all animals. population control is very important. why on Earth the DEC would bring those animals in instead of opening up more tags for hunters is beyond me. i think through history this practice has proven to be bad over the long run and often creates more problems. the issue i have with this video is that they were not in a suburban or urban environment and this was clearly a sport hunt. the cub was orphaned because these guys wanted a sport kill and went into the bears home to get it.
That may be true, but these guys were out there for the sole purpose of killing these animals for their personal enjoyment. I`ve heard of occurances where these animals get too close to populated areas and the authorities try to tranquilize the wildlife first. Then,if all else fails the animal must be put down and this I agree with. Lets face it, the majority of these animals are killed by people trekking deep into the wilderness to find them,not by people just trying to protect their property or families. All i`m saying is if you want to diminish your chances of being mauled by a bear, do what I do,refrain from bear hunting, so far by the grace of god its worked like a charm.
I know, right? Farmers are losing cows, people are losing their dogs and cats and these mountain lions are spotted next to schools, homes and playgrounds. How long will it be until a young kid is killed because of it? Right, and I'm not defending the purpose of the hunt. But in the situation of an animal charging you, you do whatever you can to scare it away and if it is still charging hard you protect yourself, whether you are hunting for food or sport, walking in your backyard, etc.
Okay, now say that you are in the woods hunting deer and you are charged by a bear, what do you do then? I don't know of anybody that would just do nothing. You can't outrun them, they can climb trees better than we can, what exactly do you do if your only choice is to shoot or be killed? Call me crazy, but I'd shoot and not think twice about it. Point is, hunting for sport isn't illegal. It may not be the most ethical way to hunt, but it isn't going to get you thrown in jail as long as you follow your tag limit and rules for the season. So in this case, while I feel bad for the cub, I would have done the same thing.
I dont think that is the case, i think its more like we keep getting closer, and closer to their populated areas as we keep expanding our towns, cities etc. closer and closer to their natural habitat. I know theres several towns here in Ontario that have done just that, they keep sprawling outwards into areas that used to be bush filled where bears, and dear, and even moose in some areas have lived forever, so its only natural that these animals are going to roam our neighborhoods when our back yard, was their backyard.
i'm not implying that they should have just stood there and let the animal attack. once the bear started it's attack, you need to do what you need to do to survive. i just question the need for this hunt. most of these bears, if i'm correct, are on lands set aside just for them to keep them away from humans and for study purposes.
Its unfortunate that the sow decided to charge, and the hunter was put in the position to kill the bear or be killed himself. While I'm not condoning killing the bear, I do realize that people do eat bear meat. I happen to be one of those people. It's a pretty safe bet that these bears were eaten. I know in a lot of states where a bear has to be put down, the department of fish and game have these bears processed, and then the meat is given to homeless shelters, safe havens for batterered women and children, etc... so the animal does not just lay there and rot. As for the cub, at that age, he is perfectly capable of surviving on his own. As far as where these hunters were at, to me it appears to be Alaska, definately not near a town. These guys do have the right to hunt these animals, its not illegal, and not for one minute do I believe they had any desire to kill that second bear. If you listen to the video, they were very upset at having to kill it. Just because a person hikes through Yellowstone, or hunts the Alaskan wilderness does not mean they deserve to die. As far as the bears coming into town, its for food purposes only. Its not because we're infringing on their space, there natural reaction is to move away from people. Believe it or not, hunting does a good thing, as it helps control overpopulation, similar to spaying or neutering a dog or cat. Is it better for the animals to starve, or is it better to control the population of them?
If you hadn't posted that, I was going to. Every single day there are wooded areas being bulldozed to make way for more neighborhoods. What choice do the animals have? They have a natural fear of us and their preference would be to maintain their distance.
I like how these idiots say what they did was justified and that it had to happen. Oh did it? You happened to need to be out there and taking animals lives for no reason?
I can only say that I wouldn't hunt any animal so I wouldn't be in that position. But if a hunter was out in the woods and was being chased I would hope they'd fire a warning shot. If that fails then yes, shooting the bear would be the only option left. The best solution in my mind is to not be in that situation in the first place unless you have to provide food for either your family or for employment.