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Best NFL franchise?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by rafael, Sep 17, 2008.

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  1. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    There was debate here a while back as to whether or not Miami has been one of the best franchises since the merger. I and several others who claimed Miami was in the top 5 overall were called homers by those that believed that Miami was not in the top 5 (mostly Jets fans). Anyway ESPN recently tackled the same question. They used the following criteria:

    • Super Bowl championships and appearances

    • Postseason history (playoff wins and crushing defeats)

    • Regular-season consistency (overall winning percentage, number of seasons with 12 or more wins and number of seasons with four or fewer wins)

    • Individual star power (number of selections to the Associated Press All-Pro first team)

    • Overall franchise stability (number of coaching changes and draft busts)

    • Media buzz and fan interest ("Monday Night Football" appearances)


    Here are their results:

    Overall ranking
    Team Pts.
    1. Dal 1,498
    2. Pit 1,495
    3. SF 1,294
    4. Mia 1,276
    5. Den 1,138
    6. Oak 1,028
    7. Min 1,024
    8. Was 998
    9. Stl 947
    10. NE 905
    11. NYG 859
    12. Chi 793
    13. Phi 776
    14. GB 745
    15. Bal 678
    16. Ind 669
    17. Ten 669
    18. Buf 667
    19. Sea 641
    20. Jac 634
    21. KC 596
    22. Car 588
    23. SD 563
    24. Cin 494
    25. TB 474
    26. Atl 362
    27. Det 350
    28. NYJ 338
    29. Cle 338
    30. Hou 308
    31. NO 287
    32. Ari 285

    ESPN Page 2 - Page 2: Modern NFL franchise hierarchy, 1-10
     
  2. texasPHINSfan

    texasPHINSfan New Member

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    Roman529 Senior Member

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    I think you are ranking San Fran a litle high at #3....yes they have won 4 SB's, but they were absolutley horrible before they won them, and they have been pretty bad afterwards.
     
  4. PMZQ

    PMZQ Banned

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    I believe these are someone else's findings, just being reposted by Raffy :wink2:
     
  5. dolphindebby

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    I remember the so-called computerized thing they did and said the Steelers were the best team in the 70's. IMO, that was a joke, we were, hands down.
     
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    texasPHINSfan New Member

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    yeah i agree.

    you know the whole thing really is subjective. if you read the first link i posted, there are a TON of categories and each seems to have different teams near the top. I don't see one consistent team at the top of everything. so unless you're specifying which category you are using to rate the teams in history, it truely is subjective.

    but honestly, i love that. if it was so definitive, there would be no room for discussion and this wouldn't be as fun. I'd put Miami ahead of SF on that intial list raf posted just by virtue of the fact that overall, our organization has had more success than SF. SF for sure dominated in the late 80s/early 90s, but really that has been their only heydey.
     
  7. PMZQ

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    But that is typical of the NFL to never give the Dolphins franchise their due. Only 1 defensive player in the Hall of Fame from the 1972 team.....that is a crock of bull, but typical of the HoF & the NFL
     
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  8. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I'm guessing that very few people actually clicked on the link. They (not me) were pretty specific about the criteria they used. I found the criteria to be reasonable. Their results were close between #1 and #2 and also between #3 and #4. Even a small alteration to the scoring system would shuffle those top teams. The point that was disputed earlier and what this article supported was that there was a clear top echelon of NFL franchises. A few teams were borderline in the top group and their inclusion could be questioned, but by any reasonable measurement dating from the merger of the NFL/AFL the Dolphins are in that elite group.
     

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