Bills@Dolphins notes and opinion
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I think at the end of the day, you've got to regard this season as a qualified success. 7-9 and 8-8 with one of the youngest rosters in the league, a rookie quarterback, and multiple games you easily could have pulled out is not a bad outcome.
Ryan Tannehill didn't have a very good game. He was a bit handcuffed, but he also had accuracy issues at times and left plays on the field.
I do really like him running the ball, though. It shouldn't be a pillar of the offense, but it should be something there on a week by week basis. He's good enough that it's something defenses have to be concerned about. It's somewhat of a risk, but the guy doesn't expose himself to shots. He just weaves through traffic with minimal exposure to contact.
I think Mike Sherman and Co. deserve a lot of credit for changing stuff every week to get a run game going. It's been Tannehill, it's been expanding and shifting blocking styles, it's involved multiple backs.
Think Mike Sherman also deserves credit for putting together the red zone offense he has in lieu of quality short-yardage play and red-zone receiving targets.
Reggie Bush got credit for three touchdowns, but Lamar Miller demonstrated what an elusive, shifty back with vision does today. If Lamar Miller pulls his head out of his ass he's a much better ball-carrier for this team than Bush.
I feel like Armon Binns and Reshard Matthews clearly aren't viable starters at this point, but I think you're looking at your #4 and #5 guys for next year.
The offensive line played a pretty damn good game, given the circumstances. Mario Williams I've always thought was chronically overrated, but it's the defensive tackles I think are the biggest concern with Buffalo, and the team was both effective running the ball and in pass protection.
There are little problems defensively, but you can't really nitpick with 10 points.
Not a great run defense game by any means, and I'm not sure I've got a culprit on this one. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention this one.
Olivier Vernon appears to be more and more linebacker-y every week. People are almost assuredly going that to slight him, but he's doing a lot of Jason Taylor's old role in Saban's defense. He's not a stand-up edge rusher, he's playing over guard, legitimately drops back into coverage, etc.
Kevin Burnett is a really good player though. He doesn't seem to ever have "dominant" games so much as really good ones where he makes a visible error but otherwise kicks ass, but he's a good pick-up.
Kevin Coyle deserves some sort of award for some of the games his defensive backs have had given their situations. Their top corners for most of this game were a guy they signed in November, a guy they signed this week, and a guy they converted from safety at the end of pre-season.
Reshad Jones is really ****ing good at everything. Two fumble recoveries and a clutch interception?
Did Nate Kaeding punt the ball twice?
"Disgustipate wrote:
Reggie Bush got credit for three touchdowns, but Lamar Miller demonstrated what an elusive, shifty back with vision does today. If Lamar Miller pulls his head out of his ass he's a much better ball-carrier for this team than Bush.
I agree, though I think you do offer Bush a contract along the lines of what he would deserve in the more limited role in which I think he would be useful, i.e., the role he had in New Orleans.
I feel like Armon Binns and Reshard Matthews clearly aren't viable starters at this point, but I think you're looking at your #4 and #5 guys for next year.
And not Marlon Moore.
Tannehill would have better stats if Moore hasn't dropped three passes.
Who will watch the watchmen?
A patriot must always be ready to defend his country from its government.
"shouright wrote:
And not Marlon Moore.
Yeah, can't see him sticking around much longer.
I'm starting to wonder what you would qualify as a good game for Ryan Tannehill.
94 QBR with our best WR on the bench, our 2nd best WR hurt, our second best TE out and a bunch of scrubs out there.
A pinpoint throw to the back of the end zone that only Reggie could catch.
This seems to be a recent pattern in your analysis of Tannehill, despite his improved QBR lately.
Would would qualify as a good outing for the rookie that was supposed to be on the bench this year?
Vernon saved a TD on the long Spiller run. He didn't tackle him but he slowed up enough so Smith could do so.
I think Matthews can be a viable starting WR for us by the end of next season.
“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”
― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice
Patterson is a better corner than a healthy Richard Marshall or Nolan Carroll.
“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”
― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice
"MrClean wrote:
Patterson is a better corner than a healthy Richard Marshall or Nolan Carroll.
As a slot corner but I don't agree as a corner on the outside.
"Bumrush wrote:
I'm starting to wonder what you would qualify as a good game for Ryan Tannehill.
94 QBR with our best WR on the bench, our 2nd best WR hurt, our second best TE out and a bunch of scrubs out there.A pinpoint throw to the back of the end zone that only Reggie could catch.
This seems to be a recent pattern in your analysis of Tannehill, despite his improved QBR lately.
Would would qualify as a good outing for the rookie that was supposed to be on the bench this year?
Tannehill's QB rating is now 76.9 on the year, which is higher than I would've pegged it to be before the season or even earlier during the season. I expected around 70 even.
Jones is a find and will anchor this secondary for years to come
"Disgustipate wrote:
I think at the end of the day, you've got to regard this season as a qualified success. 7-9 and 8-8 with one of the youngest rosters in the league, a rookie quarterback, and multiple games you easily could have pulled out is not a bad outcome.
Ryan Tannehill didn't have a very good game. He was a bit handcuffed, but he also had accuracy issues at times and left plays on the field.
I do really like him running the ball, though. It shouldn't be a pillar of the offense, but it should be something there on a week by week basis. He's good enough that it's something defenses have to be concerned about. It's somewhat of a risk, but the guy doesn't expose himself to shots. He just weaves through traffic with minimal exposure to contact.
I think Mike Sherman and Co. deserve a lot of credit for changing stuff every week to get a run game going. It's been Tannehill, it's been expanding and shifting blocking styles, it's involved multiple backs.
Think Mike Sherman also deserves credit for putting together the red zone offense he has in lieu of quality short-yardage play and red-zone receiving targets.
Reggie Bush got credit for three touchdowns, but Lamar Miller demonstrated what an elusive, shifty back with vision does today. If Lamar Miller pulls his head out of his ass he's a much better ball-carrier for this team than Bush.
I feel like Armon Binns and Reshard Matthews clearly aren't viable starters at this point, but I think you're looking at your #4 and #5 guys for next year.
The offensive line played a pretty damn good game, given the circumstances. Mario Williams I've always thought was chronically overrated, but it's the defensive tackles I think are the biggest concern with Buffalo, and the team was both effective running the ball and in pass protection.
There are little problems defensively, but you can't really nitpick with 10 points.
Not a great run defense game by any means, and I'm not sure I've got a culprit on this one. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention this one.
Olivier Vernon appears to be more and more linebacker-y every week. People are almost assuredly going that to slight him, but he's doing a lot of Jason Taylor's old role in Saban's defense. He's not a stand-up edge rusher, he's playing over guard, legitimately drops back into coverage, etc.
Kevin Burnett is a really good player though. He doesn't seem to ever have "dominant" games so much as really good ones where he makes a visible error but otherwise kicks ass, but he's a good pick-up.
Kevin Coyle deserves some sort of award for some of the games his defensive backs have had given their situations. Their top corners for most of this game were a guy they signed in November, a guy they signed this week, and a guy they converted from safety at the end of pre-season.
Reshad Jones is really ****ing good at everything. Two fumble recoveries and a clutch interception?
Did Nate Kaeding punt the ball twice?
Winning isn't everything - it's the only thing
In Our Business there is no second place
Either your first or your last
Vince Lombardi
"2socks wrote:
Jones is a find and will anchor this secondary for years to come
Another failed Ireland pick.
"2socks wrote:
Jones is a find
...and in the 5th round, though I doubt the Jeff Ireland haters are keeping tabs on that one to anywhere near the degree they're keeping tabs on his supposed mistakes.
"Disgustipate wrote:
Yeah, can't see him sticking around much longer.
I can, he is a special teams stud.


Yep Fire Ireland now, dammit I'm turning in my season tickets!!
4 losses, 1 to Buffalo(5), NYJ(3), Arizona(3), Indy(3) and we are 11-4 right now:no:
"Bumrush wrote:
Another failed Ireland pick.
Winning isn't everything - it's the only thing
In Our Business there is no second place
Either your first or your last
Vince Lombardi
"MrClean wrote:
Vernon saved a TD on the long Spiller run. He didn't tackle him but he slowed up enough so Smith could do so.
I think Matthews can be a viable starting WR for us by the end of next season.
I like Vernon but I am not sure he is playing the right position for him. Would love to see what he could do at OLB.
Not really sure about Matthews yet...
AND
How ya been Marvin?
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"2socks wrote:
Yep Fire Ireland now, dammit I'm turning in my season tickets!!
4 losses, 1 to Buffalo(5), NYJ(3), Arizona(3), Indy(3) and we are 11-4 right now:no:
I think you can argue that we should have won against the Jets and Zona.
Indy beat us up in the 2nd half and we couldn't stop Luck. The Bills embarrassed us and our offense was anemic.
Then again, one could argue that we were outplayed by the Rams and still won.. So I would say we should be 8-7, not 11-5.
"2socks wrote:
Yep Fire Ireland now, dammit I'm turning in my season tickets!!
4 losses, 1 to Buffalo(5), NYJ(3), Arizona(3), Indy(3) and we are 11-4 right now:no:
And if you reverse the close wins against Cincinnati, St. Louis, and Seattle, we're 4-11.
"shouright wrote:
And if you reverse the close wins against Cincinnati, St. Louis, and Seattle, we're 4-11.
Our record is indicative of where we should be.. Which is a lot higher than the pundits predicted.
I'm most impressed by Tannehill hitting the rookie wall and climbing out of it... Especially on the road against San Fran, and now against two sub-par opponents.
"2socks wrote:
Yep Fire Ireland now, dammit I'm turning in my season tickets!!
4 losses, 1 to Buffalo(5), NYJ(3), Arizona(3), Indy(3) and we are 11-4 right now:no:
mediocre teams find ways to lose where great teams find ways to win.
Who will watch the watchmen?
A patriot must always be ready to defend his country from its government.
"Patssuck wrote:
mediocre teams find ways to lose where great teams find ways to win.
And young teams generally shoot themselves in the foot.
I am going to go out on a limb and say we beat NE this week. Not just beat-----thrash
Winning isn't everything - it's the only thing
In Our Business there is no second place
Either your first or your last
Vince Lombardi
As the saying goes............you are what your record says you are. There are always going to be close games in the NFL...especially if your an in the middle team.
yes I will be in the middle of your sig, I mean I agree we are in the middle.....oh never mind
"VanDolPhan wrote:
As the saying goes............you are what your record says you are. There are always going to be close games in the NFL...especially if your an in the middle team.
Winning isn't everything - it's the only thing
In Our Business there is no second place
Either your first or your last
Vince Lombardi
"2socks wrote:
I am going to go out on a limb and say we beat NE this week. Not just beat-----thrash
We will squeak out a win if Brady doesn't play the whole game.
Who will watch the watchmen?
A patriot must always be ready to defend his country from its government.
When was the last time a Dolphins defender snatched 3 turnovers in a game like Reshad Jones did today? This guy is ****ing good. That interception at the end of the game was out of this world. He's been my favorite player for a few weeks now.
As far as Marlon Moore, I really don't understand all the hate. I mean, get a grip guys. He is here because he is a special teams ace. He's normally a 4th receiver at best. Seeing so many people wanting to get rid of him is a little absurd to me.
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