Bills@Dolphins game thread

Tyson clabo did lose the game, yes. I'm not out of my mind. Everything was going fine until Mario Williams started singlehandedly stopping our offense. You can say Mario Williams won the game for the bills if that makes it sound less accusing of clabo, but that pos we have at RT is why we lost.

Ryan Tannehill did have a really bad game. He stared down receivers all day and rarely went through his progressions. When he did go through his progression, he made plays...he needs to do this more. I blame coaching though more than anything. Playcalling, coming out flat, dumb penalties...you can put all that on coaching. Offense was anemic the majority of the day, you have to fault that on the coaches. The o-line had a average day which is good for them but Clabo wet the bed when it did matter most. You cannot deny that.

**** Clabo with a rusty screw driver.

Bull****, Football is SITUATIONAL, the offensive line, once again, failed under pressure and tbh, I'm personally pissed about it.

Heads need to roll, and no, I'm not kidding, if it comes down to "execution" then I'm in favor of it

"CitizenSnips wrote:

Tyson clabo did lose the game, yes. I'm not out of my mind. Everything was going fine until Mario Williams started singlehandedly stopping our offense. You can say Mario Williams won the game for the bills if that makes it sound less accusing of clabo, but that pos we have at RT is why we lost.

Tyson Clabo didn't account for anything even remotely close to the 10+ point differential Tannehill personally was responsible for.

"Disgustipate wrote:

Tyson Clabo didn't account for anything even remotely close to the 10+ point differential Tannehill personally was responsible for.

He also swung the differential in the opposite direction when he threw a career high 3 tds. Clabo, on the other hand, did exactly what he's done all season.

Suck.

"CitizenSnips wrote:

He also swung the differential in the opposite direction when he threw a career high 3 tds. Clabo, on the other hand, did exactly what he's done all season.

Suck.

That doesn't balance out, especially when it comes down to the relative difficulties. Tyson Clabo is a bad player and we shouldn't be in a position to starting him, but using him as a scapegoat is ridiculous.

"Disgustipate wrote:

What a frustrating mess of ****. You lose to a bad team coming out of a bye week on a comedy of errors, and torpedo pretty firmly whatever momentum you had with a good start.

I'm not sure why people are screaming and kicking their legs about the coaching staff on this one. This was execution, pure and simple.

Ryan Tannehill had a god awful game. I think the best thing you can say is that he took his eyes off the field in order to do something about the rush some of the time. His accuracy was pretty bad, his timing/decision making was pretty poor, and losing the football on the sack was pretty awful as well.

The management of the run game was pretty good- They canned the outside zones for the most part, except for occasional change-ups out of shotgun formations. They focused on what works in the run game, and it was successful.

Both Daniel Thomas and Lamar Miller played well, and I think that's about both their upsides. Thomas had I think a good selection of plays for him.

Mike Wallace shouldn't make it to the end of the season on the field at this rate. An occasional long catch isn't worst the consistent failures to do the basics of the possession well.

Brandon Gibson should be getting more snaps.

I liked to see more blocking from the tight ends.

People are going to **** on the offensive line, but overall the performance was pretty good. Two sacks, and not a lot of pressure in 37 drop backs is not a bad day, combined with the run blocking. Tyson Clabo didn't have a good day, but people acting like he single-handedly lost the game have lost their ****ing mind.

We miss Cameron Wake. Olivier Vernon has been pretty decent, Derrick Shelby really hasn't, and Dion Jordan looks promising but not ready.

I thought the linebackers had a decent enough day all things considered. I didn't really have a good angle on the Jelani Jenkins to see how deserved the foul was.

Nolan Carroll really did a **** job tackling this week. Was he clearly benched on the television broadcast?

I thought Reshad Jones came around a bit, and begin playing more like the Jones of last year with some errors.

Dan Carpenter made all his kicks, and Caleb Sturgis didn't. That's embarrassing.

That's not on the coaching staff? I find that pretty hard to believe. I agree that Ryan Tannehill had a bad game, but play-calling was an issue again, both offensively and defensively. Too many 3rd and long conversions given up on the same plays that were given up in games 3 and 4 weeks ago. Up by a point with four minutes left and 3 straight passes were called. Leaving Tyson Clabo without help on the strip-sack.

Execution was bad, but it's certainly not all on that. Ultimately, it's up to the coaches to put players in good spots to execute, and I don't think the staff have done a good job of that since week 2. Even Joe Philbin said in his post game press conference that they didn't do a good job getting the team ready to play. Yikes.

"Disgustipate wrote:

That doesn't balance out, especially when it comes down to the relative difficulties. Tyson Clabo is a bad player and we shouldn't be in a position to starting him, but using him as a scapegoat is ridiculous.

Not a scapegoat. His inability to play his position has now lost us two games in crunch time. He couldn't stop Suggs when we needed it most. And he couldn't stop Williams.

Tannehill with time has proven he can be quite the qb. Which makes clabos inefficiency that much more glaring.

if you lost the game within the first minute of the game down only 7, then the their is something very wrong with your team....

"Disgustipate wrote:

Tyson Clabo didn't account for anything even remotely close to the 10+ point differential Tannehill personally was responsible for.

Uhm yeah, 3 minutes left, he surrenders a strip sack fumble=GW FG

Same as that dog**** 2 weeks ago, and here you are defending that pooh.

DeNile is not just a river in Egypt

"bran wrote:

if you lost the game within the first minute of the game down only 7, then the their is something very wrong with your team....

where did you come from, muffin?

"54Fins wrote:

where did you come from, muffin?

it was referring to the team, if a team has lost the game within the first minute(and someone actually believes that) it says **** all about your team.

Barry Jackson just dropped a bomb of a tweet. Since monitoring sacks allowed became official in 2008, no offensive lineman - tackles, guards, and centers included - has allowed more than 14 sacks in a 16 games played. Tyson Clabo's on pace to let up 21.

"RoninFin4 wrote:

That's not on the coaching staff? I find that pretty hard to believe. I agree that Ryan Tannehill had a bad game, but play-calling was an issue again, both offensively and defensively. Too many 3rd and long conversions given up on the same plays that were given up in games 3 and 4 weeks ago. Up by a point with four minutes left and 3 straight passes were called. Leaving Tyson Clabo without help on the strip-sack.

I'm not real big on throwing my hands up in the air and yelling "coaching" when the team plays poorly. I don't think the coaching was bad today by any means, and I'm not sure what the play-calling issues would be beyond "plays didn't work".

"CitizenSnips wrote:

Not a scapegoat. His inability to play his position has now lost us two games in crunch time. He couldn't stop Suggs when we needed it most. And he couldn't stop Williams.

Tannehill with time has proven he can be quite the qb. Which makes clabos inefficiency that much more glaring.

It's text-book scapegoating . That one play, regardless of how inopportune a time it occured does not outweigh the myriad of bad plays on Tannehill's shoulder. It doesn't even remotely come close.

"Disgustipate wrote:

I'm not real big on throwing my hands up in the air and yelling "coaching" when the team plays poorly. I don't think the coaching was bad today by any means, and I'm not sure what the play-calling issues would be beyond "plays didn't work".

I'd just cite the last two drives Miami had when they were playing with a lead as far as it relates to play-calling. Same with a lot of the play calls on 3rd down situations in the first half. It was an issue today and has been for a while.

"RoninFin4 wrote:

Barry Jackson just dropped a bomb of a tweet. Since monitoring sacks allowed became official in 2008, no offensive lineman - tackles, guards, and centers included - has allowed more than 14 sacks in a 16 games played. Tyson Clabo's on pace to let up 21.

Oh he's worse then that, his run blocking is dreadful as well.

This is why I'd happily go to his house, bring coffee, delete his Ipad playbook, and cut him with a smile.

I'd prefer Yeatman, Clabo is just soo ****ty, he is worse than Colombo

For me, you can't lose to this Bills team, at home, coming off a bye.

I thoughy tge play-calling was solid. Tannehill was not. You just can't spot a team 7 points like that. Mike Wallace may go down as one of the worst signings. What's the difference between him and Ginn?

Defense played well, but you have to tackle Fred Jackson at the end of the game. Our tackling was poor.

We're a very marginal team with little room for error.

"Disgustipate wrote:

It's text-book scapegoating . That one play, regardless of how inopportune a time it occured does not outweigh the myriad of bad plays on Tannehill's shoulder. It doesn't even remotely come close.

For one, it wasn't one play. The drive prior to the strip sack he completely whiffs on Williams and gets tannehill killed. It was the hardest hit tannes taken all season. THEN he ****s the bed again on the next drive.

**** him. Can't believe there's a person alive defending him right now. I had a friend, a niners fan, text me after the game saying "that clabo guy needs to be put down like old yellor"

"CitizenSnips wrote:

For one, it wasn't one play. The drive prior to the strip sack he completely whiffs on Williams and gets tannehill killed. It was the hardest hit tannes taken all season. THEN he ****s the bed again on the next drive.

**** him. Can't believe there's a person alive defending him right now. I had a friend, a niners fan, text me after the game saying "that clabo guy needs to be put down like old yellor"

Who is defending him?

"Disgustipate wrote:

Who is defending him?

Nobody. The problem is that he is a 30 year old FA playing RT, its way too easy to point him out.

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"RoninFin4 wrote:

I'd just cite the last two drives Miami had when they were playing with a lead as far as it relates to play-calling. Same with a lot of the play calls on 3rd down situations in the first half. It was an issue today and has been for a while.

I don't really see what the sin is besides it not working. Here's the second to last play with a lead:

1st and 10 at MIA 20 (Shotgun) R.Tannehill sacked at MIA 11 for -9 yards (N.Bradham). PENALTY on BUF-S.Gilmore, Defensive Holding, 5 yards, enforced at MIA 20 - No Play.
1st and 10 at MIA 25 (Shotgun) L.Miller up the middle to MIA 26 for 1 yard (M.Dareus).
2nd and 9 at MIA 26 (Shotgun) R.Tannehill pass deep left to B.Hartline to MIA 45 for 19 yards (S.Gilmore; J.Leonhard).
1st and 10 at MIA 45 (Shotgun) L.Miller right guard to MIA 46 for 1 yard (N.Bradham).
2nd and 9 at MIA 46 R.Tannehill pass short left to B.Hartline to BUF 45 for 9 yards (S.Gilmore).
1st and 10 at BUF 45 (Shotgun) R.Tannehill pass short right to B.Gibson to BUF 43 for 2 yards (J.Byrd).
2nd and 8 at BUF 43 R.Tannehill sacked at BUF 48 for -5 yards (M.Williams).
3rd and 13 at BUF 48 (Shotgun) R.Tannehill pass short right to D.Thomas to 50 for -2 yards (K.Alonso).
4th and 15 at 50 (Punt formation) B.Fields punts 43 yards to BUF 7, Center-J.Denney, fair catch by L.McKelvin.

It started with 10 minutes left. That's not chewing up the clock time. Maybe they could have thrown another run in there, but I'm not sure what the overall balance realistically should have been given the situation besides better play.

Here's the second to last:

1st and 10 at MIA 48 D.Thomas right tackle to 50 for 2 yards (J.Hughes).
2nd and 8 at 50 R.Tannehill sacked at MIA 44 for -6 yards (M.Williams). FUMBLES (M.Williams), RECOVERED by BUF-K.Williams at MIA 34. K.Williams to MIA 34 for no gain (M.Pouncey).

I'm not sure what to fault there.

"Disgustipate wrote:

I don't really see what the sin is besides it not working. Here's the second to last play with a lead:

It started with 10 minutes left. That's not chewing up the clock time. Maybe they could have thrown another run in there, but I'm not sure what the overall balance realistically should have been given the situation besides better play.

Here's the second to last:

I'm not sure what to fault there.

I was wrong there, it was the drive before that one. Miami went 3 and out calling 3 straight passes. Even so, if not for a penalty, Miami's lost 9 yards on a sack, and you're looking at two more passes.

As for the last drive, with the fumble, that's squarely on Tyson Clabo. He got beat one-one-one to the inside.