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Brady Quinn Signed

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by PhinFan1968, Aug 11, 2014.

  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Worked, there are no style points in the NFL Sick, only winning or losing

    I'd have preferred Kyle Orton
     
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  2. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Or we gave up on him for too little .
     
  3. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    I don't think anyone here is saying he should be starting. The point is that he's a perfectly capable backup, and in a league that has very few of them, he's probably worth the $5 million.
     
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  4. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    Did we sign his family too?
     
  5. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    To this day I lay that on Ireland, even as a STer he could change games, we peddled him for what became Nolan Carroll.

    Good teams tend to keep guys like Ginn around

    As for "Moore just threw the ball up" does anyone think he'd be missing Wallace the way THill does down the field
     
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  6. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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  7. RevRick

    RevRick Long Haired Leaping Gnome Club Member

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    That's because you're Sick!
     
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  8. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Carroll ended up to be an ok pick but it took time and he's now gone , Ginn could and would have impacted games , he was what he is , as you described , a very good returner that flipped the field and could score and could be an decent depth receiver. Wasn't a good pick , wasn't a good trade.
     
  9. SICK

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    If Tannehill goes down the season is over anyways....why pay a guy to hold a clipboard 5mm....thats ridiculous.
     
  10. padre31

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    That was an epic draft, that only we could not hit an impact player on picking top 10

    To me, would have kept him for a second contract, Ireland's "would not be fair to him" was the lamest excuse to basically give away a potent weapon
     
  11. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    I don't agree with that though. If Tannehill goes down I'd at least still have hope that Matt Moore could produce some wins. He's done it before.
     
  12. padre31

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    Exactly, you'd think MMoore was Cleo Lemon
     
  13. SICK

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    Cool. Some wins. 7-9. Great. Def worth 5mm a season for that hypothetical situation.
     
  14. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    So then you'd rather pay 500K to a backup who can't play because there's no point?

    That's a quitter's mentality!
     
  15. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Business. Business mentality.
     
  16. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    That's not what he said at all.:up:
     
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  17. Rocky Raccoon

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    You were just sitting back WAITING for an opportunity for a comeback, weren't you? Without pants on.
     
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  18. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Can the 5 million be better utilized right now?

    Is there an advantage other than strictly dollars and cents?

    I have never been a MM fan , but do see he could provide some wins if we needed either a spot starter or a guy for a few games stretch . I would prefer another option to be sure and if we could have gotten a similar QB for half that amount and used the other half to better a more contributing position that would have been my option .

    Last weeks game was a joke though , to think we could be in a position to not have enough depth to at least have a punchers chance. Prefer to keep MM if we don't have a better option , though I would prefer a better option .
     
  19. btfu149

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    Quitters mentality, lets say we have the exact same situation as last year and we're 8-6 and we need one win to get in. Except this time Tannehill gets hurt in practice and will miss 2 weeks, don't you think its worth it to have a competent backup? For my money its worth it, instead of saving 4.5 million throwing Devlin into the fire.
     
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  20. A13OVEAVERAGE

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    Regardless of who our quarterback is, if our defense doesn't play well it won't matter with the QBs that we have to face this season.. Tom Brady (x2), Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, Jay Cutler, Philip Rivers, Matthew Stafford, Peyton Manning, Joe Flacco, etc.
     
  21. SICK

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    Or tannehill is healthy all year and we pay Moore 5mm to do nothing. All year. Works both ways.
     
  22. padre31

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    this time of yr there just is not a lot out there to sign in the first place.

    Do like they are being aggressive, none of this "well hope the next guy up pans out"

    Satele, Quinn, maybe Fede steps up to cover Dio missing the first four games
     
  23. Rocky Raccoon

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    It's insurance. We all have to pay for insurance.
     
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  24. SICK

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    Some pay 1mm some pay 5mm. We are 8-8 paying 5mm to a backup. That's crazy.
     
  25. dolfan22

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    If we aren't handcuffed by the contract this year it really doesn't matter besides the dollars and cents savings does it?

    A lot depends on how Lazor feels about him too .
     
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  26. Rocky Raccoon

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    Gotta pay more for the better insurance.

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  27. Rocky Raccoon

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    Yeah, it's not Moore's contract is preventing us from signing players we need. We have space.
     
  28. SICK

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    Moore is not better than some random cheaper back ups.......5mm is too much. Period.
     
  29. Samphin

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    It feels pretty great to have arguments about our BACKUP QB for a change, rather than the starting one.
     
  30. Vertical Limit

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    Well I was hoping we would have drafted Murray or some other rookie in the 4th/5th round, but since that didn't happen, 5 million to Moore is fine... We're still under the cap and he can be released next year.. It's not like we'll be able to make any use of the 5 million if we released him now, there's no one we can get at this time, and insurance is always good. You're not suppose to assume Tannehill will be healthy all year, if we had a crystal ball and knew Tannehill won't be injured then we won't need a second or third string quarterback.
     
  31. Mainge

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    The idea is that if Tannehill goes down for 6-7 games, Moore can come in and keep us alive. If we had Matt Moore's equivalent in 2002 instead of Ray Lucas, we win the division that year and have as good of a shot as anyone to win the AFC.

    Is that worth $5m? I don't know. I tend to think not. But Moore's role should be represented fairly. There's other scenario's where Moore becomes valuable besides Tannehill being done for the year.

    And at this point in the season, his cap hit does not matter because we can't use the potential savings. Knowing that, give me Matt Moore any day.
     
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    That upset me so much. Hartline did well but through marshal and ginn on the same side and henne could have done either or. Instead it was Marshall going deep with Bess underneath.

    No coincidence that Marshall is the underneath man in CHI
     
  33. Paul 13

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    now we can agree on something :yes:
     
  34. Hellion

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    Stafford shouldn't be on this list, all he does is throw it up to Calvin Johnson. So he cant be any good.:shifty:
     
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  35. Hellion

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    Why is Hickey going to trade Quinn for Patrick Willis?
     
  36. Alex44

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    Best thing cutting Moore could do is roll over cap for next season.
     
  37. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Oh, Bull Sh!t!!!
     
  38. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Your analysis in your earlier post was that he is overrated. As a backup, he is not overrated. He is one of the better #2 QBs in the league. When we needed him in 2011, he came through pretty well. When RT17 got hurt early in the Jets game in 2012, Moore came in and led the team to a 30-9 win. Somehow, he did that without Brandon Marshall to throw to, which shoots down the faulty premise that he only did well in 2011 because of having Marshall to throw to. The notion of downplaying a QB's performance because of the weapons he had to work with seems like nonsense to me.
    I'd rather judge him on how he has done in Miami. Not for what happened when he was part of a mediocre Panthers team

    Oh yes I'm sure it was mostly his fault that the Panthers won 2 games that season. He started 5 games and that was the year he played with a right shoulder injury.
    Shame on him for doing what Delhomme did before him, and Newton did after him. Throwing to Steve Smith. How terrible.
     
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  39. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I don't think he would.
     
  40. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I'm glad you weren't around in 1972. You'd have probably said the same thing when Griese broke his ankle and all we had to replace him was a rickety 38 yr old QB past his prime, named Morrall.

    You sound the same as Schmolioot, that Miami cannot win anything without RT. I guess you'd just as soon we had just Laboto and Jensen as backups and if RT gets hurt, just tank the season and play for the #1 pick. WADR, that sort of mindset makes me nauseated
     
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