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Breaking Baltimore

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Berezo, Oct 23, 2017.

  1. Berezo

    Berezo Well-Known Member

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    So we don't play this team well historically. This will be in Baltimore as well on a short week against a team that we are 6-8 against lifetime. Two of those losses were playoff losses in which we were dominated. I have heard that Baltimore is down this year but this has been a tough matchup for us. What gets us this win?

    My take: if we can get the Jay train rolling again we could see success. With Matt Moore as the likely starter with the Cutler ribs in question, I think he plays poised like he did last year against the jets in prime time. The defense will also play fast early on limiting the Ravens.

    My prediction: Miami 24 - Baltimore 16


    Phins up!
     
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  2. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    The Ravens are a bad team this year, but then again so are the Jets, right? Miami is not good enough to take any team for granted, but this is a game we SHOULD win. I think Moore will do fine on a short week. I'd predict a 27-17 Dolphin win.
     
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  3. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    Have to be patient with the run game. Their front 7 is weaker than ever this year. The Offense has nothin, Maclin and Wallace are their two best recievers and both of them will be out. Their rung game is non existent and Flacco is getting beat up. Just have to score more than they do. I'll take a 13-10 slopfest, just get er done
     
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  4. ForgotMahArrows

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    This game will come down to which crappy offensive line gets exploited more...
     
  5. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    They have a very bad run defense. Need to ride that train all night long. If we can do that successfully, we should be able to win.
     
  6. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    The other part of this game is that afterwards, it is the closest thing to a bye that Miami gets this year. I hope Gase has plans to rest the team as much as possible. Let Parker get healthy (I doubt he plays Thursday) and anyone else who needs it (Cutler is a more interesting situation, but we need to know how badly he is actually hurt first).

    Being 5-3 halfway through the season would be okay, but 6-2 would be awesome. One step closer on Thursday.
     
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  7. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Playing a wounded animal is never easy. If Baltimore loses this game their season is just about over. True that their offense is horrendous. But I think their defense will come to play. Low scoring affair which we eke out I hope
     
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  8. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Pretty much. John Harbaugh is a good coach, he'll scheme a good offensive plan with the guys they got. We have been getting exposed on screens, so I expect a couple are going to be called for Buck Allen.

    Their defense is loaded with vets, and while Brandon Williams hasn't been living up to his contract, our interior OL has been dreadful. This might be an all FG game.
     
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  9. Rickysabeast

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    Yes. Their Run D is dead last in terms of yds allowed. http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/position/defense
     
  10. DolPhinPhan7

    DolPhinPhan7 Active Member

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    The only time I remember the Phins beating the Ravens are meaningless wins in lost seasons.

    2008 Camarillo win to save the winless season and a 2015 win in the Dan Campbell season that I didn't even bother watching.
     
  11. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Maclin is out this week confirmed?
     
  12. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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  13. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member

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    Here's PFF on Ravens vs. Vikings:

    TOP 5 GRADES:
    CB Brandon Carr, 84.5 overall grade

    OLB Terrell Suggs, 83.4 overall grade

    DT Michael Pierce, 79.4 overall grade

    LG James Hurst, 79.3 overall grade

    CB Jimmy Smith, 77.8 overall grade

    PERFORMANCES OF NOTE:
    QB JOE FLACCO, 42.7 OVERALL GRADE

    The Vikings defense has been giving opposing quarterbacks fits all season and Flacco was no different. Of his 27 completions, only three were 10-plus yards down the field. On Flacco’s 11 pressured dropbacks, he gained all of seven yards through the air and took five sacks.

    RG JERMAINE ELUEMUNOR, 32.7 OVERALL GRADE
    The loss of Marshal Yanda was felt mightily in this one. Eluemunor was a liability from the first snap to the last. He allowed a sack, two hurries, and commited two penalties on the day.

    CB BRANDON CARR, 84.5 OVERALL GRADE
    This is the type of impact they were hoping for when they signed Carr from Dallas this offseason. He was targeted six times, allowed only three catches for 22 yards and snagged an early interception.

    LB PATRICK ONWUASOR, 40.2 OVERALL GRADE
    Much of the Ravens’ struggles in run defense can be traced back to the play of Onwuasor. The second-year linebacker was hesitant snap-after-snap versus the run and couldn’t quite make heads or tails of the Vikings rushing attack. He also missed two tackles on seven attempts.

    PFF GAME BALL: LINVAL JOSEPH, DT
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    And in their post week defensive rankings here's the entry on the Ravens:

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    24. BALTIMORE RAVENS
    BEST-GRADED STARTER: Brandon Williams, DI, 85.4
    WORST-GRADED: Lardarius Webb, CB, 41.7

    Baltimore’s defense has run hot or cold this season. They began the year on fire, but those performances came against the Cincinnati Bengals and the Cleveland Browns. Since then the Jaguars put up 44 points, followed by the Steelers and Bears both putting up more than 25, with only Oakland continuing to struggle. They have individuals playing well, but the sum of the parts has been disappointing."
     
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  14. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    I don't know about confirmed for Thursday but he was out yesterday. And Wallace left the game and is in the concussion protocol which I doubt he can clear by Thursday
     
  15. DolPhinPhan7

    DolPhinPhan7 Active Member

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    How are the Ravens giving 3.5 on this?
     
  16. mor911

    mor911 pooping

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    That basically means they think the teams are even and home team will get that.
     
  17. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito. Club Member

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    12/04/201612/04/16 Miami DolphinsMia Baltimore RavensBal A M&T Bank Stadium (Baltimore, MD) L 38-6 70,916
    12/06/201512/06/15 Miami DolphinsMia Baltimore RavensBal H Sun Life Stadium (Miami Gardens, FL) W 15-13 64,519
    12/07/201412/07/14 Miami DolphinsMia Baltimore RavensBal H Sun Life Stadium (Miami Gardens, FL) L 28-13 70,244
    10/06/201310/06/13 Miami DolphinsMia Baltimore RavensBal H Sun Life Stadium (Miami Gardens, FL) L 26-23 68,342
    11/07/201011/07/10 Miami DolphinsMia Baltimore RavensBal A M&T Bank Stadium (Baltimore, MD) L 26-10 71,305
    01/04/200901/04/09 * Miami DolphinsMia Baltimore RavensBal H Dolphin Stadium (Miami Gardens, FL) L 27-9 74,240
    10/19/200810/19/08 Miami DolphinsMia Baltimore RavensBal H Dolphin Stadium (Miami Gardens, FL) L 27-13 64,972
    12/16/200712/16/07 Miami DolphinsMia Baltimore RavensBal H Dolphin Stadium (Miami Gardens, FL) W 22-16, OT 70,287


    Yuck.
     
  18. mor911

    mor911 pooping

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    12/16/200712/16/07 Miami DolphinsMia Baltimore RavensBal H Dolphin Stadium (Miami Gardens, FL) W 22-16, OT 70,287

    Was that the Greg Camarillo miracle one win? LOL
     
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  19. Redwine4all

    Redwine4all Well-Known Member

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    Why are the Jets bad? They have been average this year...they played well against the Patriots and us, twice.
     
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  20. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    I was being facetious with that first sentence. I meant that the expectation was that the Jets would be a bad team -which was why them beating the Phins was a shock to many. Miami did not take them seriously enough. Don't make the same mistake with the Ravens, even if they seem to be collapsing the last several weeks and the expectation is that Miami should win the game Thursday.

    The Jets have been playing average or a bit better all year, which still seems strange given what seems to be a lack of talent, and I do believe the front office wanted to tank the season and get a top three draft pick. At this point, I hope they win a couple more games and miss out on all the top QBs in 2018.
     
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  21. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    I'm in Raven's country so I watch most of their games while streaming the Dolphins.

    My Observations:

    Suggs is still a beast and can wreck the game.
    Jimmy Smith is a great corner.
    Alex Collins was averaging 6.6 yards per carry before the Vikings games
    Flacco is making a ton of mistakes when pressured
    Yanda is out for the year and the rest of the line has looked bad in pass protection.
    If it becomes a FG game, Justin Tucker will win it.
     
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  22. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Suggs is a first ballot hall of fame..

    alex collins was a good in season signing.

    flack has no weapons.

    we need to win this freakin game..

    I think the dolphins will be fired up for this game..they are aware of the national disrespect..
     
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  23. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    The Ravens held 15 players out of practice today due to injury.

    LB's Suggs, Onwuasor and rookie Tim Williams
    DB's Smith and Levine
    Receivers Campanaro, Maclin, Perrriman, Wallace
    RB West
    TE Maxx Williams, Watson
    Safety Weddle
    Guard Sjura

    Half of them are limited, but Suggs is not expected to play. Neither starting DB is expected to play. Possibly none of their starting receivers are expected to play. The list is pretty extensive for this early in the season.

    Meanwhile, Dolphins would have held out Branch, Cutler, Parker, Steen and Tunsil. No word if Tunsil will be good to go Thursday, the others are questionable. We obviously know that Cutler won't go.
     
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  24. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Key where did you see that Suggs is not expected to play?
     
  25. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I looked and I can't find it...but it said that he was held out of practice today because of his knee and they're taking it day by day. The article didn't specifically say he was out but made it sound doubtful. I'll keep looking though, it was a CBS article.
     
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  26. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    he's out..we win.
     
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  27. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    In black bird country with a backup qb im surprised its not "MOORE" get that play on words. MOR911 is right home team always get 3 pts I would expect this to go up, a lot of people don't like backups especially only getting 2 days of practice. sucks for moore but we will see.
     
  28. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    Im expecting a way better output from ther o-line and the team this week, i think there is a lot more morale with Moore taking snaps so we will see.
     
  29. EverFin

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    Ravens will score two FG at max. This means a Thursday win for us and a half by week. Could be sweet.
     
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  30. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    Nice posts guys.
     
  31. Berezo

    Berezo Well-Known Member

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    So I started the thread by saying we don't play them well. Nothing changed. I thought these two teams were so different then years past. Nope, more of the same. We don't win in Baltimore...case closed.
     

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