Bucs just released Gabe Carimi

Mark Dominik sent a 6th round pick to Chicago for Carimi so they must have had some amount of conviction there.

Only thing is...he didn't really play well. So Hickey may be wary on that basis.

Also...what's the deal with Carl Nicks? The two games the dude played, he did play well according to PFF. Are the Bucs ready to just move on there? If so I would think Hickey would be interested.

 

He's got an injury that he will apparently always have to play through to his foot, and there are suggestions the injury could be career-ending.

I liked Nicks a lot in his prime, but if suffers a decline in his ability to move well, I don't know the Dolphins should be interested.

 

Wasn't he one of the Bucs' players with MRSA as well?

 

Yeah, I'm not sure what his injury history is, but it looks like he's had a toe injury and MRSA, and both have reoccurred after surgery. The toe is the issue know as far as I know.

 

I read he's already working out w the team again so I doubt he's going anywhere.

 

I'll admit it, I would have taken Carimi over Pouncey

 

Snatch him. Move Mike to guard... profit.

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I almost said we would sign him. Brent Grimes, Dion Jordan, Jamar Taylor, Dmitri Patterson...can't get enough of that injury history.

 

I wouldn't have, simply because if Pouncey hadn't become a near All-Pro Center, I always saw him as a pro-bowl guard.

 

How does it happen like this???

Carimi wasn't just a 1st round draft pick, he was the Outland Trophy winner. He was the best OL in his draft class.

Prototypical size, excellent athleticism, multiple academic awards, I just don't get it.

The scouts were pretty much unanimous on this guy. I don't recall anybody saying he was going to be a bust or even anybody out there saying he should be a mid-round pick.

There just has to be more to this story than............well he just hasn't played well.

The guy completely manhandled great competition all through his college career, including, they say, handling JJ Watt every day in practice.

I think there must something up with this guy, and if it is something he can work through, he might be worth bringing in.

I mean what if the guy developed some kind of personal issue that was affecting his game.

If this guy ever turned it around and started to play according to the expectations most had for him when he was drafted, we could end up with a great offensive lineman.

 

I'd take him. We have to start thinking the coaches can up skill players.

 

If it's anywhere near LeCharles Bentley situation he had with Cleveland...it might not go well. That guy got screwed career wise.

 

Can he play guard? He isn't cutting it at RT.

 

Maybe injuries, I don't know. I was a big fan of his when he was in college, looked at him as a possible LT college and pretty much a sure thing at RT if that didn't work out. I remember him and the Wisconsin OL plowing through the Ohio St. DL a few years ago, leading the way for a bid day from John Clay. Same game that JJ Watt went off for 3 or 4 sacks. I thought that Carimi was going to be an excellent pro.

btw Clay is a free agent, if we need a big back why not give him a look?

 

So you're saying sign Carimi and move Pouncey to guard? Who'd play center then?

 

In 2012 when he started 14 games and played all 16 for the Bears, PFF rated him the 6th best run blocking OT, and the 3rd worst pass blocker. He started in 3 and played a total of 4 of the games at RG though, and his pass blocking grade was much better. Combined for a +2.4, no sacks or hits allowed and only 3 hurries. His PBE was 98.1 in 116 pass blocking snaps at RG. His PBE at RT was 90.1 in 374 pass blocking snaps.

 

How about Alex Mack? I love Brent Grimes, but Grimes is going to be 31 and Mack is 28.

If it is about who gets 9 mil a year. I would go with the young center and not the old CB. Ya, I'm starting to sour on the impending Grimes/Miko circus already.

 

Why do we have to start thinking that? Is there evidence to suggest that they are capable? I have been concerned that this coaching staff has little to no experience as a coach or player. How do you "coach em up" when they, with the exception of Philbin and 1 or 2 others don't have any. What happens is you have very small improvements over time.

I want them to be successful. The chances of becoming successful are infinitely harder when the HC surrounds himself with "Minions he can control". The desire to be in control, has hurt this team. We are behind simply because of the choices being made. It also put even more strain on talent aquisition when the players have to be premium talent to play. It is virtually impossible to take average talent and make them great because the coaches don't have the experience and knowledge to do so. So good luck with that. We might be able to splurge on a guy here or there but there is that thing called the salary cap.

With that being said it is remarkable to me the progress Tannehill has made so far. If he was on a different team, New England, Denver, SF, Seatlle; different player. Tannehill possibly could be one the best in the league. Hope we don't squander the chance.

 

The way I understood it, Philbin prefers to delegate and doesn't need to control his coaches.

Otherwise, yeah we can't assume that our coaching staff will coach him up after that debacle of a line from last year.

 

It's not only the line.

It's he whole team.

I will just pick one position. QB

We have what could be one of the best raw talent kids to come out of college in many years; Ryan Tannehill. He is stymied because he is on this team. If he was on a Denver, Seattle, SF or even NE he would be a superstar. Teams with solid secondary coaches.

I just hope that what I read is not a set up. Philbin making comments about pushing Tannehill next year sounds to me like a setup to me. Another escape goat. JMO

 

What does the ability of the secondary coach have to do with Tannehill? Considering the development of Carroll and Wilson, I'd say our secondary coaches aren't bad anyway.

What is an escape goat? Is that a goat who gets out of his pen or off his tether and escapes? Perhaps you mean a scapegoat?

 

I don't have much interest in Gabe Carimi.

I maintain interest in Carl Nicks if the Bucs let him go.

 

I liked Carimi coming out. He didn't necessarily seem like an elite talent, but he seemed like a guy who was almost certain to be a 10-12 solid starter. I guess not. I'd be fine with picking him up as there si little to no risk. But if we are really looking for more mobile, zone-blocking OLs, I'm not sure Carimi is a great fit.