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Bulls to hire Doug Collins as head coach | has now backed out

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  1. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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  2. King Felix

    King Felix Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    didn't see that coming..i heard the rumors about avery johnson was already hired
     
  3. #1 fan

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    horrible signing imo. could help the heat tho, because avery would've wanted rose
     
  4. Section126

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    Yes....a plan is coming together. Collins is old school, and he LOVES Hinrich....

    Welcome to Miami Mr. Rose!
     
  5. phunwin

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    Doug Collins? The guy whose teams seem to get better immediately after he's let go? Really?!?

    This is an absolutely terrible move. The Bulls reacted poorly to Scott Skiles' authoritarian, in-your-face coaching style. The answer is not to bring in a guy who's even more of an authoritarian, in-your-face coach. Who's next after Collins gets canned, Bob Knight?

    As for what this does to their pick at #1, I'm not sure it does anything. The front office will still make the call. I don't think Collins will have a ton of input there.
     
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  6. Regan21286

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    Bad move. I prefer Collins in the broadcast booth and Avery Johnson in Chicago. Bulls really blew it. Didn't they fire Collins themselves a while ago? And that was with Jordan on the roster.
     
  7. Oboy

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    Wow, weird move. I am not going to jump to conclusions yet though...

    IMO, Avery Johnson is a HORRIBLE coach and really glad they did not get him. Collins... Not so sure on.
     
  8. Section126

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    Well, if his views as a TV analyst mean anything...he is in love with Hinrich.
     
  9. 124

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    Doug Collins when Avery Johnson was available? Are they for real in Chicago? :sidelol:
     
  10. phunwin

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    Hell, Mike D'Antoni was theirs for the asking, and they blew that.
     
  11. finfansince72

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    As a Wizards fan I have to laugh at this. The guy is horrible with a young team, he's like Skiles only worse. As a Wizards fan I applaud this move. Thanks Chicago.
     
  12. alen1

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    I believe he was their coach a while ago.

    I agree with you guys, bad move and a hell of a surprise. There was so much talk about Avery and them. I know when Avery was let go by Dallas, reports surfaced that Avery was already talking to Chicago.
     
  13. Oboy

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    I am not a fan of Collins by any means, but let me reiterate... Avery is NOT a good coach. Even during timeouts you could see the assistant coaches were always the ones drawing up the plays.
     
  14. High Definition

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    There's already a thread on the Bulls board:

    "Who gets fired first: Paxson or Collins?" :lol:
     
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  15. #1 fan

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    :lol:
     
  16. Oboy

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    WOW. NOW that is funny!

    :sidelol::sidelol::sidelol::sidelol:
     
  17. alen1

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    :lol:
     
  18. phunwin

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    You believe correctly. In fact, some remember him as the guy who preceded the coach with the second-most championships in NBA history. Said successor had largely the same roster that Collins did.
     
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  19. alen1

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    Thanks for the clarification bro.
     
  20. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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  22. phunwin

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    John Hollinger has his usual brilliant piece on why this is a bad fit.

    It's a great read, but to boil it down for those who don't want to plow through it, he basically ays that Collins isn't a bad coach, and he's good at fixing a poor defense. The only problem is, the Bulls are already a good defensive team. So the biggest reason you'd want to hire Doug Collins is pretty much a moot point. Collins' major shortcomings as coach are his problems handling young players, of which the Bulls have many, and that his temperment is almost identical to Scott Skiles, the guy the Bulls tuned out after 3+ seasons of harping. Add in the fact that Collins' teams play at an absolutely turtle-like pace (despite the presence of athletic talent like MJ and Pippen, and later, a pre-injury Grant Hill), where the Bulls have a roster that's best suited for an up-tempo game, and you've got a really bad match, even if you think Collins is a good coach.
     
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  23. alen1

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    Paxson planning to talk with other Bulls coaching candidates

    http://chicagosports.chicagotribune...30-doug-collins-chicago-bulls,1,1464921.story
     
  24. Muck

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    :sidelol:

    That's just a great line.
     
  25. Dolphin1184

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    Doug Collins is a fantastic commentator. I rather him stay with Marv Albert.
     
  26. alen1

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    Yep just saw this. I think this is a good thing for the Bulls lol.
     
  27. High Definition

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    Coincidence that both D'Antoni and Collins backed out after meeting with Jerry Reinsdorf?

    I think not.
     
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  28. Firesole

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    It would have been a stupid hire anyways. Collins is a screamer, and they already got rid of a screamer in Scott SKiles. They've proved that that type of coach will not work in Chi town.
     
  29. alen1

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    Who should they go after then?

    For some reason, I keep thinking Terry Porter :dunno:
     
  30. phunwin

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    The man drove Michael Jordan into retirement. It can't be surprising that he's managed to alienate two coaching candidates in the span of a month.

    Yup, my point exactly. Collins was the exact opposite of what the Bulls needed in every way.

    Porter will probably end up with the Suns, so I'd scratch him. The Bulls wanted to interview Michael Curry, but the Pistons refused them the chance, and he'll probably coach the Pistons. Avery Johnson might not be what they need, but he'd be better than Collins, for sure. Flip Saunders, oddly enough, might be a good fit there. With a young, fast-paced team in need of some offensive cohesion, Saunders could fit what they want very well.
     
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  31. Muck

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    As a Heat fan, I don't like any of the available names you're putting out there. They're all former point guards. :lol:
     
  32. alen1

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  33. phunwin

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    ESPN is reporting that Vinny Of The Black is the frontrunner for the Bulls job. He's been working in the Suns' front office the last few years. No link, I just saw it on Sportscenter.
     

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