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Bye Bye Billy

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Oct 11, 2016.

  1. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member

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    Dolphins have advised Billy Turner that he's going to be released.

    [video=twitter;785900131111563264]https://www.twitter.com/caplannfl/status/785900131111563264[/video]
     
  2. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He hasn't shown well at all this year, thought he would outlast Thomas, but both apparently being gone on the same day is pretty big.

    Said this in the DT thread, but really feels like the purge has begun, and this team is looking to challenge the Cleveland Browns for #1. Not because we're cutting these two, but the record, decisions with players starting/not starting, IR, coaching decisions. Looks like we're just entering purge and move on mode. Bring on the rebuild.
     
  3. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I agree. Hopefully we can trade someone like Cam Wake to a contender for a pick. Probably a low round pick, but a pick non the less. At this point, there are only about 5 or 6 players I would not trade.
     
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  4. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    This is just the cleansing that was necessary after 10 years of horrible drafting, trades, free agent signings and overall malfeasance of this organization. This team is a mess and no longer can Ross, general manager or coaches ignore how bad this team is. The reality is we are not even close.

    Let the purging continue and let's move forward to bigger and better things.
     
  5. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    For the first time I reallt do believe in our staff. I've seen so many players in position to make plays flat out whiff due to talent. Its encouraging to see Thomas finally cut...Turner maybe could have used more time but if the staff didn't see potential in him its good to move on.
     
  6. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    You believe in our staff because a decision that should have been made this past offseason? It was their evaluation of these players that kept them here to begin with.

    I give'em "some" credit ...... but let's be real - it was a delayed reactionary move.
     
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  7. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    or was it to send a message to some of the starters who don't perform? Cutting them this offseason doesn't send as strong or a message as everyone gets a chance to prove themselves, players get benched and then they get cut. Pretty powerful message if reinforced behind the scenes.
     
  8. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    They weren't performing well before either. The team's hand was forced given what transpired this past Sunday.

    Fact of the matter is, quality coaches and front offices are ahead of the curve not sitting around waiting for disaster to strike before making a decision like this one.
     
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  9. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    I have to believe it was my "Stepbrothers" nickname for Thomas and Turner that sealed the deal, lol. And, Douglas fell out, too.

    There's no shame in being the worst of the best in the NFL. I wish them all well in their future endeavors...like a matador or turnstile attendant or fire exit evacuation dude.
     
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  10. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm gonna guess that they were at least competent enough in practices to warrant them earning a depth spot. Except, as a depth player, your counted on to go in at some point in time. Turner and Thomas were absolute whipping boys on game days, luckily it only took four games for the coaching staff to force the front office's hand.
     
  11. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    So you keep guys you can't trust to be the next man up. Literally doesn't make any sense.
     
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  12. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    Dude, Philbin did it every year. He'd keep like 26 linemen only to trade for someone like McKinnie the moment one of his starters go down. He is currently destroying Andrew Luck.

    Whether that is some sort of thought process residue from the previous regime is unanswerable.
     
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  13. MikeHoncho

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    Best news I've heard in entire my dolfan life.
     
  14. MikeHoncho

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    In all seriousness, I do like any of those guys' prospects as a professional matador.
     
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  15. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Or, you know, maybe Gase wanted to do what he said he'd do when hired. Give everyone a clean slate. Give them a chance to learn this system. Give them a chance to perform in this new system. Give them a chance to show they're worthy of the opportunity. He put guys on notice a couple weeks ago that it wasn't good enough, and they were going to start replacing them. He's done exactly what he's said he'd do. But go with what you want I guess if that makes you feel better...
     
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  16. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    You mean Chris Foerster's vaunted O-line system? Why on earth would anyone think something was going to change? We can quote all the feel good coach speaks we want ........ all the "not making players fit the system" or "clean slates" ...... but that's all it is at the end of the day.

    Tunsil fell to them in the draft and suddenly their noodles shut off.
     
  17. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Weren't they both released today?
     
  18. MikeHoncho

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    To be fair, an even half-comptetent GM would have sought to replace these two bums a long, long time ago.
     
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  19. RoninFin4

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    The bottoming out and full-blown rebuild has been long overdue. Now, if they throw Tannenbaum out as well, we're really talking.
     
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  20. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm not defending the GM, at all.
     
  21. MikeHoncho

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    Wasn't replying to you in particular. We're on the same page.
     
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  22. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    OK dude, I know, you like to ***** for the sake of *****ing, we all get it.

    To say this is just Adam Gase, and rah rah coach speak though is ridiculous on your part. He's doing EXACTLY what he said he do. Coach speak is them saying nothing at all of substance, or rah rah crap to make a player feel good. This is a coach who said, this is what im giving you all, a fresh start, a chance to learn to play our way. That hasnt happened with some players. The warning was issued they'd make changes and find guys who will, and they've done just that. Its a coach changing the way things have been done around here, giving guys the benefit of the doubt, and if it's not good enough, theyre gone. Should they have been gone long ago? Of course, but they were here because there was nobody else the team was willing, or able to acquire due to cost, they got their chance, and they blew it, now they're gone. Good teams run that way. It takes time though, this is the start of that process.
     
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  23. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Ya, like the criticisms haven't been deserved for nearly two decades now for this franchise in general. The part of all of this you conveniently keep forgetting - Stephen Ross - has been directly responsible for hiring these people.

    But please continue with your head up that stank *** of yours and keep preaching the patience. You're gonna get it right one of these years with throwing blind darts ...... it may be 5, 10, 15 .... who knows. :up:
     
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  24. Young Z

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    Lol great sig pic
     
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  25. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Thomas explaining that it was all Billy...

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  26. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/10/12/ravens-claim-billy-turner/

     
  27. MikeHoncho

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    I pray for Joe if this dude ever enters the game for the Ravens.
     
  28. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You've completely missed my point. Because now you're onto a different rant about patience, and Stephen Ross, and isolated the most useless part of that post.

    You're complaining about the coach wanting to evaluate the players himself in a new position. You're complaining that he said he was going to do that. He did that. Came to the conclusion that some aren't good enough, and they're gone. So, everything he's said he'd do so far, he's done. You want to write that off as insignificant and "coach speak" just so you can be negative and complain about something. That's ridiculous. He's doing the job he was hired to do, just as he said he would do it. Now you're going to bring up and complain more about Ross. Great. Everyone knows that's a problem. Not sure what he has to do with a conversation about Billy Turner, and Adam Gases thoughts about evaluating this team and it's players under his system and watch. Ok though, ramble on dude...

    Maybe it's you who needs to remove your head... ahh, nevermind. I'm not going to stoop to your level.
     
  29. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    I'm going to simplify this.

    Stephen Ross hired Gase. He was his favorite coaching candidate. What do you know about Mr. Ross since he's been an owner? He couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with his football choices. Until that changes, a degree is skepticism is still natural.

    What time are we hitting the links tomorrow? :tongue2:
     
  30. TheOne

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    I loved the pick when we made it, I am just trying to convince myself that he would have worked out had we kept him at LT when he was drafted, I doubt it though.
     
  31. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    you have a good point. we seem to want to move guys around all the time, just let them play one spot and get great at it,
     
  32. Pandarilla

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  33. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    We move them around because (1) when they show they suck at one spot, we hope that by magic they will be good at another; or (2) we need someone at a position that the player has never played in college, and we move them there, making the transition to the NFL doubly difficult; or (3) someone gets injured and we have no backup at the position.

    Genius, no?


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  34. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Well, we know Albert can't be depended on from day to day, let alone week to week, or to stay healthy over a 2 week period. But what were the odds that a 22 y/o professional athlete who depends on balance, speed, hand/eye coordination, lateral movement, and footwork couldn't step out of a damned shower without busting his a** and hurting his ankle?

    Agree with what you're saying though but both guys had 3 years to lock down a position and failed. Douglas was another matter. Poor evaluation and he was out of shape this summer and over matched both last season and thru camp.
     
  35. MikeHoncho

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    Brilliant!


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