C. Patterson 4.37 40

To me, it doesn't. Patterson has shown he can play outside and has shown me the physical skills to create separation with his hands and make plays in tight coverage. Austin hasn't.

At this point we might need to move up to #7 to lock this guy up.

"LBsFinest wrote:

At this point we might need to move up to #7 to lock this guy up.

That won't happen

"phinsational wrote:

That won't happen

Wishful thinking on my part, we all know Ireland ain't got the balls to do that. he has no problem trading up for sorry ass Daniel Thomas tho

So you're saying he doesn't have the balls to trade up in the same breath you're criticizing him for... trading up.

Well said!

"Crazy685 wrote:

So you're saying he doesn't have the balls to trade up in the same breath you're criticizing him for... trading up.

Well said!

he won't move up in the 1st and give up a 2nd...even when he has multiple 2nd rounders

"Crazy685 wrote:

So you're saying he doesn't have the balls to trade up in the same breath you're criticizing him for... trading up.

Well said!

who are you responding to?

Does Cordarelle have short arms and small hands?

"djphinfan wrote:

Does Cordarelle have short arms and small hands?

somewhat for his size.

"phinsational wrote:

who are you responding to?

I pretty much quoted him in the post, even using his language ("balls")

I think Patterson had the day he needed to have. A 10'8" broad jump, 37" vertical, 4.37 in the 40 yard dash. He already had upward momentum and I think that's enough to maintain it. The only slight mark on it is the simple fact that so many guys ran even faster. I have 5 guys with faster unofficial times and 5 guys with faster "official" times (not the same 5).

Marquise Goodwin ran a 4.25 (or possibly down to a 4.19)
Tavon Austin ran a 4.25
Kenny Stills ran a 4.28
Markus Wheaton ran a 4.34
Denard Robinson ran a 4.34

That surprises me. Goodwin and Austin don't really surprise me, nor Wheaton really...but Robinson and Stills do. Yet, I probably shouldn't hold that against Cordarrelle. He's still a "freak". Austin and Goodwin are 5'9" (174 and 183 lbs). Robinson is 5'10" (199 lbs), Wheaton is 5'11" (189 lbs) and Stills is the tallest at 6'0" (194 lbs). Patterson is 6'2" and 216 lbs. That's freaky.

"LBsFinest wrote:

Wishful thinking on my part, we all know Ireland ain't got the balls to do that. he has no problem trading up for sorry ass Daniel Thomas tho

Takes two teams wanting to trade to make a trade. For every trade made, there are an untold number of proposed trades that never happen because the team cannot find a partner.

"LBsFinest wrote:

Wishful thinking on my part, we all know Ireland ain't got the balls to do that. he has no problem trading up for sorry ass Daniel Thomas tho

Does Thomas still play for Miami? Don't understand why anyone would call one of our players sorry ass.

"Boomer wrote:

Does Thomas still play for Miami? Don't understand why anyone would call one of our players sorry ass.

I agree with this but won't cast stones. There were numerous times that I trashed the great name that is Marc Columbo.

"Boomer wrote:

Does Thomas still play for Miami? Don't understand why anyone would call one of our players sorry ass.

I would. Pay me a million dollars to play football badly and then I'll feel sorry for him.

"Boomer wrote:

Does Thomas still play for Miami? Don't understand why anyone would call one of our players sorry ass.

I'm not a big fan of Daniel Thomas. He's been very unimpressive. Ireland makes some odd decisions at times. Almost as if he's trying to prove he's smarter than conventional wisdom. Eschewing the big names and finding the diamond in the rough. It doesn't work often enough unfortunately.

"Boomer wrote:

Does Thomas still play for Miami? Don't understand why anyone would call one of our players sorry ass.

You mean other than the fact that they are? Lmao were you serious with this? Does it make me less of a fan to cast one of our players in a negative light? We've had plenty of players that sucked dude, that's why we've had 4 straight losing seasons.

I just don't get running your mouth over a player when he still plays for our club. Maybe it's a cultural thing.

"Xeticus wrote:

I'm not a big fan of Daniel Thomas. He's been very unimpressive. Ireland makes some odd decisions at times. Almost as if he's trying to prove he's smarter than conventional wisdom. Eschewing the big names and finding the diamond in the rough. It doesn't work often enough unfortunately.

DTrain is a frustrating player, he will have a great game, then a poor game, then a great game.

The injuries are a serious problem though, not talent, if he cannot get on the field he's useless to us.

As for Patterson, I like his game, but think Ireland is pretty much locked into the "25 games in college" approach, which means he is not on the menu imo.

"Boomer wrote:

I just don't get running your mouth over a player when he still plays for our club. Maybe it's a cultural thing.

Actually Thomas isn't THAT bad, I went a little overboard lol, but he's not looking like a good 2nd round pick, the fact that we traded up for him makes it an even poorer decision.

National Football Post are reporting that Patterson didn't interview at all well and that he might slip down some boards because of it. Conjecture on their part, but do you think his rumoured immaturity will affect his draft stock with some teams?

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Players-that-did-not-shine-at-Sundays-Combine-workout.html

"Claymore95 wrote:

National Football Post are reporting that Patterson didn't interview at all well and that he might slip down some boards because of it. Conjecture on their part, but do you think his rumoured immaturity will affect his draft stock with some teams?

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Players-that-did-not-shine-at-Sundays-Combine-workout.html

Perhaps his mother is a whore....

Well, real issue is he only has 1 yr experience, Ireland usually goes for 3 yr starters who have played 25 games or more.

I'm going to be honest I saw an article earlier talking about how the NFL is interested in Manti Te'o's sexuality even though by the rule of the CBA it should be against the rules even to ask him the question...and the first thing I thought was, jesus christ...Jeff Ireland strikes again. No lie. I was convinced Ireland just asked Te'o if he's gay during the interview.

Which would have clearly been out of bounds yet I'm sure many people here would defend it.