I'd be willing to throw a 3 year/$30 million fully guaranteed offer to Taysom Hill.
Maybe he's just a backup who can be tossed in situationally, but maybe he is a bonafide viable starter. Whatever our QB situation may be, I would have zero problem letting him compete to start.
In recent years, I think the Eagles provided teams needing a QB a model. Think back to when they drafted Wentz. On their roster, they were paying him, Sam Bradford, and Chase Daniel pretty hefty salaries. Basically, their butts were covered for anything that could have happened. Let's just say Wentz turned out to be a developmental project. At the time, Sam Bradford was a viable starter in the league. If his body gave out, they had Chase Daniel who was a system guy for the system Pederson ran. Ultimately, this yielded the optimum result when they traded Bradford to Minnesota for a first round pick. This was probably more of a matter of luck than anything.
Imagine if we brought Fitzmagic, Rosen, Hill, and let's just say Tua into camp. If Tua beats everyone out, that is a fantastic problem to have. If that were the case, I would slow roll the process and trade Rosen for whatever we can get. I would hold onto Fitzmagic even if he wasn't dressing on game days. Inevitably, some team's starting QB will be injured, and Fitzmagic would be the exact guy that they are looking for - a smart vet that can learn a system quickly. Just look at the Steelers. If they had Fitzmagic, they would probably be in the playoffs.
If Hill looks the best, I have zero problem starting him for the foreseeable future. As long as he looks the best, I really don't see a problem with it. To me, this would be another high quality problem, and I would handle it similar to the previous scenario.
If Fitzmagic looks the best, I honestly wouldn't have a problem with him playing out his contract as a starter or until we are eliminated from contention.
If Tua is not healthy to start the season, we could keep the remaining three while trying to trade Rosen.
Finally, if things mentally click for Rosen, and he looks the best, start him. Again, I would chalk this up to a high quality problem to have. In this case, Fitzmagic would either get cut or traded (depending if there is an offer at the end of the preseason), or we could temporarily keep 4 QBs until an offer is made.
To me, signing Hill just makes a lot of sense. We have the money, and it feels like a mutually good deal.
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Honestly, I had never heard of him before. And after doing a little research, he likely wouldn't be interested in Miami because he wants a clear opportunity to start at QB. If that option isn't there, he'd prefer to stay with the Saints.
Here's the other side of the coin- he's 30 years old, taken 110 QB snaps and never once threw a TD pass. I know that's a small sample size but that's the entire point...we have no idea if he would be an accurate passer. New Orleans has used him all over the field and the guy certainly has serious talent, but I don't think that's enough to sign him as a QB.
He sort of puts me in the mind of Tebow- a freak athlete that could excel almost anywhere. That doesn't automatically make him an NFL QB though unless you're leaning towards more of a wildcat offense.resnor likes this. -
The smart move for some team would be to draft or sign someone like Taysom Hill, do a complete paradigm shift of offensive play in the NFL, and have two quarterbacks on the field at all times, one who lines up behind center as traditionally, and another who could be anywhere, could receive lateral passes just after the snap, and could then run or throw the ball downfield.
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Start trying to slot him into other teams. It's not easy. Maybe a team like Indy. Maybe Carolina. Possibly Tampa. Maybe Oakland. I am not sure if he beats out a starter in any of those locations. I think beating out a rookie in Miami is certainly. How long he holds the position would be entirely up to his performance. -
With that said, it really comes down to Hill's expectations. If he wants $10M+ a year AND a starting, 4-down QB role...he's not going to find it in the NFL. For 3M a year, several teams will roll the dice if he wants to lead the Wildcat and/or play some RB/TE/WR as well. I just don't see him getting exactly what he wants though due to age and lack of film at QB. -
Watching him play, I think he is definitely more than just a wildcat QB. For me, that was the reason for creating this post. What is he? A premiere backup? A bottom third QB? A middle third QB? A top third QB?
I'm actually fairly optimistic. His age doesn't scare me because I don't think there is a lot of tread on his tires.KeyFin likes this. -
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He's an interesting wild card/X-factor type player, but a franchise QB? No thanks.
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Considering the Saints utilized Bridgewater during Brees injury I would not pay him that money.It's one thing to have a player to change things up (sorta like the wildcat)but I doubt he starting material.
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There's too much thinking "inside the box" by offensive play designers in the NFL. If plays originate from a single player (the quarterback) who is usually in a circumscribed area of the field (in the pocket), it becomes far easier to defend against offenses than it would be if plays originated through two players, one of whom could be in any area of the field.
Taysom Hill is precisely the kind of player to be the "second QB" in such an offense, because he can pass and run. And in fact there's no reason why the first QB in such an offense couldn't be the same kind of player.
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When I heard the Chargers and Rivers were gonna split, I was thinking about what if we paired him up with Fitzpatrick. That way, we wouldn’t be forced to trade up for a QB and we could use all of our resources to build the team. On game day we could play the guy with the hot hand.
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Also QB#2 needs to be either elite at throwing and above average in another area, preferably WR or the reverse. If I dont have to really defend him as a WR it's all going to be for nothing in the NFL because I dont think being just a runner is enough. Even if hes a great runner, lined up wide the play is going to flow in one predictable direction if he takes a handoff.texanphinatic likes this. -
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Right now defense's jobs in the NFL are made far easier by 1) knowing where passes are very likely to come from on the field, which allows them to send their pass rushers to that area without wasting their efforts elsewhere on the field, and 2) knowing fairly quickly after the snap whether a play is going to be a run or a pass, which allows them to respond quickly and defend the corresponding areas of the field.
Present-day offensive functioning in the NFL allows defenses far too easy a job of it. We got a taste of this this year when Lamar Jackson was very difficult to stop because he addressed one of these issues above. The next step is to have two QBs on the field and make it even more difficult for defenses. -
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I think people are looking at Hill and thinking that he could possibly be another type of player that Lamar Jackson is. I'm not comparing the two, but Hill might possibly be used the same way. It's a copycat league and I can see a team giving him a shot. I think his best bet would be to stay put in New Orleans, but if he decides to cash in somewhere I won't blame him. In short, I don't think he'll be a good full time Quarterback. I think that would be a disaster for whatever team tries buying into that idea. Honestly if Tebow would have tried to be more of a player like Hill is, he might still be playing in the NFL. He opted to try and be a quarterback full time and he ended up out of the league. Same will happen with Hill if he leaves New Orleans.
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