how about we blame MR. Ross this clown screwed up when he hired this coaching staff and Ireland should already be fired.
Not just you. I knew it was not a given to win today , but how utterly unprepared we were was just sickening imo. Unprepared from the state of the oline , to the drops , the focus , the adjustments , scheme , the lack of contributions from the draft class , rb's that struggle with blocking .... all sorts of issues. When is time to make a substantial change as opposed to welllll we got minutely better , so let's just drink the kool aid and believe we should stay the course? I love 17 , he had a rough game , but far from his fault imo , so imo we have the QB , but I don't believe in this GM and honestly am on the fence for Philbin and the coaching staff.
Wins and losses are effected more by the talent on the field, not coaching. The GM is responsible for the talent on the field.
They were of course. Point being we didn't just lose today , at least imo. That effort and performance doesn't make me think we should stay the course, does it for you? Still don't believe that Ireland is the right guy for GM , and to date he hasn't proved he is at all imo.
You're absolutely right, it was a horrible game but it was still just one game. At Buffalo, in late December, coming off of the biggest win in several years. Not making excuses but that's not a set of circumstances that we are going to see very often. For example we play the Jets at home next week. Their front is nowhere near as good as Buffalos, they don't have the same press man capability, and the game won't be played in freezing rain or high winds. I'm fairly confident we will handle them.
While those got better the running game got worse, the rush-defense got a LOT worse, and the O-line is a travesty. All of those things were better in 2012.
WADR making the playoffs still does not erase all the problems this team has. It'll be a feel good situation, but the problems will still be there.
Oh I agree, im not saying that it does. Im saying this season won't feel liking yet another complete waste of our time as fans.
No, it was TWO games against the same team with the same third string QB and that same team beat us at home and away. You'd think after the first game, they'd have SOME idea how to play against the Bills defense. They didn't. And they somehow forgot how to play against their offense as well.
Yes, a professional scout should have the resources and the time to ascertain whether a lineman has a history of trouble keeping his weight at the proper level. Which one do you consider yourself by the way?
i am a true ireland hater and he is garbage. but i agree with the OP here, mike sherman is one of the worst playcallers i have ever seen. this team was not prepared whatsoever. this has happened 3 times this year (twice against buffalo and once against the bucs). that's coaching, folks. we should have 11 wins right now. we couldnt win 3 games against backup qbs??? really?
Totally agree and might I add whether a bully and a sissy can have positive chemistry together when you add them to the overweight guy and throw in a possible law breaker to boot yet some continue to suggest that professional is worthy of our trust and continued employment by our team. The results of which we saw in play yesterday for the whole world to see.
This team lacks consistency. Consistency is more about coaching than the GM. We beat Indy, Cincy, Pittsburgh, San Diego, New England. Those are some talented teams all vying for the playoffs, and we handled them. Then we turn around and lose to Tampa and Buffalo twice. Our guys came out flat as hell yesterday, were not executing the little things that they have executed in past weeks. Yesterday was largely a preparation and attitude problem. The terms 'let-down game' and 'trap game' are popular for a reason: they test a team's mental toughness and professional approach week in and week out. We are missing that, and it starts with coaching and locker room leadership.
They were wet and cold. The Bills play in crap like that all the time. Our team couldn't psychologically or physically handle it. It was different at Pittsburgh. It was cold, but dry and not windy. When you're soaked through and through, it's freezing, and the wind is blowing, it's a factor. You think about how s**tty you feel. It took the edge away and they regressed. Learning experience. Yeah, I know. The weather was the same for the other team. They're used to it and they're tougher.
Lol..and they were tired. Next time Buffalo is in Miami..I hope someone keeps them up all Freakin night.. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
How did a talent-void team beat 3 division winners (NE, CIN, IND) and 2 wildcard hopefuls (PIT, SD)? To me the roster is capable of beating playoff teams because they...did. That to me shows we have sufficient talent. Then they turn around and play down to their competition with Tampa and Buffalo in infamous 'let-down' and 'trap' game situations. It takes time to learn how to sustain a strong approach every week. It's more about leadership, imo. Whether it's coaches getting guys in the right frame of mind during practice and preparation, or veteran leaders making sure guys are on task and ready to bring their A-game every Sunday. We're a young team with a boatload of new FAs, and I think this chemistry and culture will come eventually, especially as Tannehill matures.
I just think the idea that consistency is a coaching thing and not a talent thing is a wrong idea. I think your talent base often dictates how consistent your results can be. Consistency is a talent issue, at its heart. Most players in the NFL have talent and can make plays. That's how they got into the NFL. What ultimately dictates how good that player is going to be in the NFL is how CONSISTENTLY he can show that talent play to play, quarter to quarter, game to game and year to year. That's what makes players good players or bad players. So this idea that because you jumped up and beat some teams, the fact that you can't do that every week shows you have talent but lack coaching...to me is just wrongheaded. When you have a strong talent base, you can win games in multiple ways. You have different guys stepping up every week. And you NEED to have that, because you're not playing the same opponent with the same profile week after week after week. You're playing different opponents in different situations and sometimes even when you're playing the same opponent they're actually different because of injuries or the situation. The talent base dictates whether you're able to get different guys stepping up at need. If you need to keep winning games the same way, you're not going to win a lot of them.
Dead on with all you wrote. Ryan struggled yesterday, no doubt. But we looked so ill prepared yesterday. We could've played 10 qtrs yesterday and we would not have made one adjustment in scheme or play calling or execution. Knew it was a tough spot in Buffalo, not kidding myself, but...WOW..Totally unacceptable.
I'm not saying it's entirely coaching that lost yesterday's game. When you get shut out by a 5-win team, tons of things went wrong. But when a team is that flat and that unable to mitigate mismatches, some of it has to fall on the coaches. Not sure what their job is if those two things (preparedness and scheme) aren't included. And don't the Bills 'profile' similar to the Jets? Bad but mobile QB, some dominant guys on the DL, a solid OL and commitment to running the ball. We smoked the Jets. We're capable of beating a team that's built like them.
That line in particular points pretty much directly and obviously at talent. Again. CONSISTENCY is the very heart of what makes NFL players talented or not talented. Not just their capability of making plays, but how consistently they can bring that capability out of themselves. Pretty much every QB at the NFL level can "make all the throws". Pretty much every one of them can make some breath taking throws too. How consistently do they bring that? How consistently do your wide receivers get open when they go from being covered by one guy in one scheme to another guy in another scheme? How consistently do your linemen win their blocks? How consistently do your tailbacks make guys miss? How consistently are your coverage people able to cover as they go from guys with certain styles to guys with other strengths and other schemes? How consistently do your defensive players diagnose, or get off blocks? How consistent do your players bring these efforts from play to play, quarter to quarter (get tired), week to week (lose focus) or year to year (contract year)? That's what makes dominant NFL players who they are. They bring the same effort week to week and year to year. If you don't have a lot of players that do that, guys like Cam Wake, Randy Starks and Jared Odrick, then don't be surprised when you beat some teams and lose to other teams. Consistent TEAM efforts are also about your overall talent base because every week you're playing different teams with different schemes and different strengths and weaknesses and therefore you need different guys to step up every week. You need to show you can win in different ways. If you don't have those guys that can step up like that, don't be surprised you win one week and lose the next week. You're just a mediocre team.
exactly. It wasn't that we lost. It was how we lost. The lack of adjustments and the look we got dominated. Nothing slowed them down because we made zero adjustments to slow them down. It screams weakness, right when everyone was hopeful we were finally turning the corner. Very disheartening!!
Actually it's called consistency and some players have that, other players don't. Miami is full of a lot of players that aren't consistent and so they will have days like that. There was no amount of scheming and no amount of rah-rah pep talks that were going to get Miami to win yesterday. Those players played like turds because sometimes they play like turds. It just happens that sometimes when some of those players play like turds, others are playing like stars, and they make up for it. But when you get a day when too many of them are playing like turds and you don't have enough star power to make up for it, you get dominated. That's what happened. Bad individual matchups and too many guys played poorly at the same time. No scheming would have made up for that.
lol this team hasn't had a running game all season. just where do you think we were gonna come up with one yesterday? this offense is one dimensional and the good defenses know it and play us accordingly. with that oline and lack of a solid running attack no amount of play calling was going to overcome that.
no, I wont. to be honest I'm not sure I want this team in the playoffs. don't get me wrong I want our team to do well but I really don't think they will. I don't want to be the token WC that is first round fodder...
Its great experience for our team, especially Tannehill. You cant practice playoff football you have to experience it. I want us to get in...and go as far as we can, but Im not gonna lose sleep over it. To me I see a great chance to get our young team some playoff experience. God...did I use the word experience enough in that paragraph or what?
no, I get what you are saying. as a fan I really don't want them to because as a fan I don't have faith that they will execute and rep well. if this team was playing cinsitant football and I thought they would have even the slightest chance... but they might get in and win 1, I just don't believe they will.
Ultimately - yes he does Or does He? Do we know for sure Ireland hired this guy or did Ross with the help of his good buddy from KC dictate who our coach was going to be?
Unfortunately then we are 41 years and counting now on talent. Even the great Don Shula couldn't get it done in the end (28 yrs). So I guess we should just clean house again. Including the owner, because it didn't work before. Start over. Maybe this time we can get some swagger.
