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Chad Henne...

Discussion in 'Other NFL' started by MonstBlitz, Oct 22, 2012.

  1. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    ...still sucks. :lol:

    I didn't watch the game. But I did read that he threw the ball away on 4th down during a crucial drive. But who knows, maybe he'll go on to "tear it up" if Gabbert is out longer as so many Henne fans here prognosticated.
     
  2. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    The fourth down throwaway was a smart play. His receivers, namely Justin Blackmon who was the target, couldn't get open on the sprint right option call.

    Blaine Gabbert's expected to be back next Sunday.
     
  3. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    Marcedes Lewis is going across the middle.
     
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  4. Starry31

    Starry31 Phins and Heels.

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    Someday he might get a chance to start some and will probably win a game, then some on the forum will make a thread saying, see!

    Then the next week he'll suck.
     
  5. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I can't tell if Marcedes Lewis is open but it's the same thing I've seen Peyton do before. I checked and I believe its a two-man read. If neither are open, run if you can. If not, throw away. Same way Bill Walsh taught it.
     
  6. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    A Jax offense that lost MJD, leaving them with..?

    Lewis? Not a bad player, the fact they had to lean on Rook Blackmon speaks volumes.
     
  7. MikeHoncho

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    Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed tihs.
     
  8. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    He's got position on the defender that's behind him. Just needs to gun it in there. It's 4th down..at least try.

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  9. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Do you think he can with the rush?
     
  10. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Let me see: you're at midfield, rolling out to the right on a two-man read, both of which are covered, and are under pressure and up 17-3 toward the end of the half. What are you going to do, throw it up for grabs?
     
  11. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Yea honestly he should. He could get a WR going up and making a play. He could get a pass interference call. And at worst he gets a pick 20 yards down the field and even that's better then turning it over on downs.
     
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  12. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I do not agree.
     
  13. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    What do you not agree with. What is worst case scenario if he throws it up where you wouldnt want him to?
     
  14. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    In that situation, with the lead, you throw the ball away. If it was a different situation, I'd agree.
     
  15. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Again I'll ask. In that situation. What is the downside to throwing the ball up down the field?
     
  16. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    On 4th down, a pick 20 yards down the field is still better than throwing it away. The odds the ball is returned further than the line of scrimmage on a deep pass are not good. Running the ball on 4th and 1 is better than throwing it away. Really hard to defend that play, but I'm glad to see Henne still has his defenders.
     
  17. MikeHoncho

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    The game was at hand so no big deal. Didn't need to risk it. Who needs more points up 14?
     
  18. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Discussing one play makes me a Henne defender because he had nowhere to throw nor run? Ok then, I'm not going to waste my time conversing with you if that's how it's going to be looked at.

    Throw it to who? There's no one open. By the time Marcedes Lewis comes into the frame, Henne has already gotten rid of the ball due to pressure. His only two reads both ran away from him after running their short and deep outs.
     
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  19. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    He's not our QB, Let Jacksonville deal with him.
    Let.It.****ing.Go.
     
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  20. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    There doesn't have to be anyone open to throw the ball up down the field.
     
  21. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Then it's a throwaway considering there's not even defensive backs down the field.
     
  22. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    There is a receiver 15-20 yards down the field. Throw the ball up to him. Again, what is the downside? None
     
  23. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Are you serious?
     
  24. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    I forgot. That's the only guy out on a route. And regardless he could still throw the ball up to that guy even.
     
  25. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Ok then.
     
  26. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    I've still yet to hear your answer to my question I asked 10 times. What is the downside?
     
  27. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    An interception that could be return for better field position or 6?
     
  28. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Given the position of the defense, I would say they could easily get a pick six on a poorly thrown pass due to pressure. There are black jerseys everywhere.
     
  29. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    I don't think I've ever seen a pick six or much of a return from a ball being thrown up down the field. 99% of the time it's the WR going up fighting for the ball with a CB or S and if someone goes down with it, they go down right away.
     
  30. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    But how do you know in this instance?

    You don't.
     
  31. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I watched some of this game when henne was in there. The same ole henne. He stared down his receiver the entire time. Amazing. :pity:
     
  32. padre31

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    And...Henne is moving away from him...do you expect him to plant his right foot and pivot and throw back across the field to try and complete the pass?

    Only guys I've seen be able to do that were Elway and Favre.
     
  33. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    We've seen Henne make those throws. We know he has the arm strength to do it, that was never a question. It was his accuracy and decision making (as seen in the clip) that were a question.

    When he is at the top of the Raiders logo, he has time to stop and throw the ball.
     
  34. ToddPhin

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    Daht's what she said






























    ......forty child support payments ago
     
  35. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    The chance of a big return on this play is minimal imo - if you get it close enough to the receiver, they will have a chance at the ball and can either tackle or at least slow the defender and likely draw a blocker. Putting a little air on it also allows the rest of your team to get into position to make a defensive play if needed.

    Instead, you are just surrendering the ball at midfield. You may as well surrender the FG right then too.
     
  36. MikeHoncho

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    Henne vs. Sanchez


    *cue HBO Sports theme*

    Henne 12/20 90 yards 1 int
    Sanchez 7/11 51 0 0
     
  37. MikeHoncho

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    Henne ran for the 1st down. It was 4 yards to convert. Barely made it back to the LOS; but a penalty for illegal hands to the face converts.

    Money.
     

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