Channing Crowder says we are Fair Weather Fans....

"Muck wrote:

You have a right to boo the team as a whole. But the targeting of specific players with chants, etc. by the home crowd just makes me lose faith in society.

The fact that it happened, when it happened, so synchronously at our stadium yesterday makes me truly give up on our fanbase as a whole.

I know we have a lot of great fans around the world. Many of which frequent this here site. But yesterday was landmark for me personally. Yesterday was the first time I felt like the a large percentage of fans who attend games at our stadium don't deserve to root for a winner.

Those who participated in this, they are the DEFINITION of fair-weather fans, with the added element of classlessness and sheer stupidity.

Opinions naturally differ on many things. But for the life of me I cannot comprehend how people don't 'get' this.

AMEN.

Crowder was right.

The evidence is clear. it is irrefutable. Our Fans at large SUCK. They have sucked for years, it just took a little more adversity to full reveal.

Not running the show. True. But they are the ones executing, or should I say lack of executing the plays. Booing is a fans right.....like it or not. Is it right.....I don't think so, but it is their right to express there displeasure.

Maybe the fans should just not go to the games next year. Then we could have some more of the Wanny days when there were more opposing teams fans then ours and the cameras didn't pan more then half way up because the freaking stadium was empty. Then maybe Crowder could take a pay cut because revenue is down. But hey at least everyone would be cheering him for the beast he isnt

"Muck wrote:

You have a right to boo the team as a whole. But the targeting of specific players with chants, etc. by the home crowd just makes me lose faith in society.

The fact that it happened, when it happened, so synchronously at our stadium yesterday makes me truly give up on our fanbase as a whole.

I know we have a lot of great fans around the world. Many of which frequent this here site. But yesterday was landmark for me personally. Yesterday was the first time I felt like the a large percentage of fans who attend games at our stadium don't deserve to root for a winner.

Those who participated in this, they are the DEFINITION of fair-weather fans, with the added element of classlessness and sheer stupidity.

Opinions naturally differ on many things. But for the life of me I cannot comprehend how people don't 'get' this.

I want to agree with you in more than principle, but I can't. I can't because I wasn't there this weekend to see the Dolphins lose their 7th home game this season and third in a row to the likes of the Bills, Browns, and Lions. I didn't have to pay money to see them this year, or expend the time and effort to do anything but pony up for a couple of beers and burgers at the bar. I think what they did was classless, but I honestly can't say if I wouldn't have done the same if I was in their shoes, because it's cheap and easy for me to type words on a message board. They're the ones that go through the hassle and investment and get nothing for it in return.

"ToddsPhins wrote:

I agree with Crowder. How is it right to boo the players when they're not the ones running the show. If you want to boo the 53 man team, then find another team to root for rather than showing a display of classlessness. This team plays hard and deserves better support from its fans. It's easy to root for your team when things are going great, but it's the tough times that show what fans are made of.... and it's the tough times when teams need its fans support the most.

Not running the show. True. But they are the ones executing, or should I say lack of executing the plays. Booing is a fans right.....like it or not. Is it right.....I don't think so, but it is their right to express there displeasure.

Maybe the fans should just not go to the games next year. Then we could have some more of the Wanny days when there were more opposing teams fans then ours and the cameras didn't pan more then half way up because the freaking stadium was empty. Then maybe Crowder could take a pay cut because revenue is down. But hey at least everyone would be cheering him for the beast he isnt

"ToddsPhins wrote:

I agree with Crowder. How is it right to boo the players when they're not the ones running the show. If you want to boo the 53 man team, then find another team to root for rather than showing a display of classlessness. This team plays hard and deserves better support from its fans. It's easy to root for your team when things are going great, but it's the tough times that show what fans are made of.... and it's the tough times when teams need its fans support the most.

It's the same fan base that cheered orgasmically for Joey Porter when he was a DPOY candidate ..and then a year later was booing him and calling him a bum, sometimes to his face in public.

The same fan base that gets 13 years of play from JT, and then when he refuses to retire and plays one year with the Jets, they turn on him unmercifully.

When I go to a Seahawk game I LOVE shouting for the Seahawks back ups. That is so much fun.

Seriously, what's the difference between doing this to Henne as he prepared for the final drive and Dan Carpenter as he lines up for a game-winning FG?

Shows you how asinine and counter-productive our behavior was yesterday.

"brandon27 wrote:

Thats just it. Sure its ok to boo in disapproval, but when you start chants calling people out personally, its pathetic. If that's what Crowder is talking about, I support him 110%. I dont give a damn how hard those losers in the stands had to work to pay for their damn ticket, its a disgrace. Its not like these guys on this team are going out there and getting their asses handed to them on purpose.

Exactly.

Imagine what it's like for these people's families at the game. What if this were your brother, father, son, etc.? Would you give a damn then? The target yesterday....his wife lives and dies with every play. And she's been seen weeping while fans 'express their displeasure'.

I understand the fanbase is frustrated. Hell, we're ALL frustrated. But that doesn't make it right for you to be a ******** about it.

EDIT: 'you' meaning in general.

"emocomputerjock wrote:

I want to agree with you in more than principle, but I can't. I can't because I wasn't there this weekend to see the Dolphins lose their 7th home game this season and third in a row to the likes of the Bills, Browns, and Lions. I didn't have to pay money to see them this year, or expend the time and effort to do anything but pony up for a couple of beers and burgers at the bar. I think what they did was classless, but I honestly can't say if I wouldn't have done the same if I was in their shoes, because it's cheap and easy for me to type words on a message board. They're the ones that go through the hassle and investment and get nothing for it in return.

You don't have to go to the games to have a strong opinion on this.

Just common sense and a touch of morality.

I didn´t go to the game and would never of boo´d Henne before the game....

But I sure did let out some swear words watching his two INTs on TV.

This is "sammy sucks" all over again.

I was at the stadium that day and almost got into a fist fight with fellow dolphin fans. Really? We attack OUR players now?

and I get dirty looks when I get on the opposition sometimes.

A small tip...insults, chants, nastiness, and unpleasant behavior...direct it at the guys on the other team. But no, we sure have zeal and energy to hate on our own. It's our move.

"Garryowen wrote:

Funny how in sports, we're less than a good person when we act like we'd act to getting any other sub standard product.

If this is the way you express dissatisfaction with goods/services in real life, I can't imagine you get a lot of cooperation from the other side. In fact, I think your chances of being assaulted are significantly higher

IMO, some people feel like they're immune in sports. Like things they would never say or do in real life are perfectly acceptable in the stands at a sporting event.

**Apologies if I'm misreading your post**

Who gives a damn what a loud-mouthed, mediocre, overpaid never-will-be LB thinks? Don't want to be boo'ed? Win a freaking home game and earn your damn game checks.

It's tough when Channing Crowder is basically right. Miami fans right now, unfortunately, cannot hold a torch to Green Bay, Dallas or Pittsburgh fans.

They too would be in a frenzy in our situation, but they wouldn't boo specific players (specific interceptions? absolutely).

"pocoloco wrote:

It's tough when Channing Crowder is basically right. Miami fans right now, unfortunately, cannot hold a torch to Green Bay, Dallas or Pittsburgh fans.

They too would be in a frenzy in our situation, but they wouldn't boo specific players (specific interceptions? absolutely).

Bullcrap. I have heard Dallas fans boo specific players. Particularly Romo.

"Muck wrote:

You have a right to boo the team as a whole. But the targeting of specific players with chants, etc. by the home crowd just makes me lose faith in society.

The fact that it happened, when it happened, so synchronously at our stadium yesterday makes me truly give up on our fanbase as a whole.

I know we have a lot of great fans around the world. Many of which frequent this here site. But yesterday was landmark for me personally. Yesterday was the first time I felt like the a large percentage of fans who attend games at our stadium don't deserve to root for a winner.

Those who participated in this, they are the DEFINITION of fair-weather fans, with the added element of classlessness and sheer stupidity.

Opinions naturally differ on many things. But for the life of me I cannot comprehend how people don't 'get' this.

I shouldn't give you guys any more ammunition, but what the heck.

I was at a game back in the mid 90's. Boomer Esiason was the Jets QB and the fanbase was getting tired off his inconsistent play (his arm was pretty shot by then). Midway through the game, Esiason got sacked and he was clearly hurt as he just lay on the turf. The stadium burst into a loud, prolonged cheer. I was mortified. I almost got into a fight with the idiots behind me that were cheering with everyone else. I could not believe that they were cheering because Esiason was hurt and had to come out of the game. It sickened me.

Something happens when you gather tens of thousands of people together at a sporting event. They have a propensity to turn into idiots.

When was the last time we had fair weather? It's been monsoon season since the 90s!

"PhinishLine wrote:

When was the last time we had fair weather? It's been monsoon season since the 90s!

Well, most forget we actually won a playoff game in 2000---I was there---and made the playoffs 4 years in a row, 98-2001. Things began to go downhill when we got Saban and it's been pretty much an unmitigated disaster ever since with the exception of 2008. If Fins fans were truly fair-weather, they wouldn't have anyone at any of the games other than fans of the opposing team.

BTW, we are a developed animal...we don;t only hate our bad players...we hate our good ones too.

On more than a few occasions, I have heard Dolphin fans screaming crap at Sean Smith before games.

"Section126 wrote:

This is "sammy sucks" all over again.

I was at the stadium that day and almost got into a fist fight with fellow dolphin fans. Really? We attack OUR players now?

and I get dirty looks when I get on the opposition sometimes.

A small tip...insults, chants, nastiness, and unpleasant behavior...direct it at the guys on the other team. But no, we sure have zeal and energy to hate on our own. It's our move.

I almost forgot about that.

I think I was 11 or 12 years old then. And it killed me to hear it.

I don't partake, but going after your own is on another level than giving it to an opposing player.

When it gets down to it, these are young men. They're PEOPLE. Too often we lose sight of that.

"Muck wrote:

I almost forgot about that.

I think I was 11 or 12 years old then. And it killed me to hear it.

I don't partake, but going after your own is on another level than giving it to an opposing player.

When it gets down to it, these are young men. They're PEOPLE. Too often we lose sight of that.

And in this case they're people that have given a pretty strong effort for most of the season. You can say a lot of things about this team, but they've played hard even when they've been out of contention.

fandom has changed over the years. i know when i was a kid it was more about going to the game and having the experience. now there are alot of fans that feel they "deserve a win" because they paid money. i have never understood that kind of thinking. you root for a win but nowhere on your ticket does it say you will get one.

"adamprez2003 wrote:

fandom has changed over the years. i know when i was a kid it was more about going to the game and having the experience. now there are alot of fans that feel they "deserve a win" because they paid money. i have never understood that kind of thinking. you root for a win but nowhere on your ticket does it say you will get one.

As long as you get 60 minutes of effort you get what you paid for.

Oh so its because of how the fans chanted that made them decide to throw a 2 yard out pass with 19 secs left and no timeouts.

Thanks for that clarification, Channing, you overpaid asshat.

These Dolphins need to realize that Dolphins fans EXPECT more. We are accustomed to WINNING, even if we haven't done it in 30+ years. We do not ACCEPT mediocrity, and unfortunately this team isn't even mediocre.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

I wonder how many people here who diss on Crowder would defend Ricky who has said pretty much the same thing.

Even at Ricky's worst when he walked away from the team he was more of a player than Crowder could dream of. Ricky' words carry more weight because of how he has played. Crowder is all gum flapping and yapping which is typical of the program he came out of.