Probably shouldn't have sent that last one.

 

I get his point. There's some coaches out there, I've been around them, that take it way too far when it comes to talking to, and "motivating" their players. Some of these coaches at the lower levels, and younger ages really need to realize that the vast majority of the kids in their program aren't going to see the professional levels of the sport, and they're supposed to be having fun. There's a proper way to discipline, and correct techniques, and make kids aware they've made a mistake.

That being said, of course, there's alot of great coaches at the lower levels that do it the right way. Set the right examples, and still put out good football players, but most importantly good people.

I'm not sure I agree with McCains statement however in comparing it to domestic violence.

 

I see YOUR point, deej, but it is definitely open for interpretation.

Had he said it so eloquently....

 

Dolphins offseason.

Makes you wanna put a gun in your own mouth faster than the regular season does.

 

Yeah, he was doing that right until that last tweet where he said that verbal abuse is worse than domestic violence, and that right there is a comparison. That was out of line and basically just wiped out his whole argument that came before. Usually domestic violence comes with heavy verbal abuse as well, they go pretty much hand in hand, so he should not have even thought about saying what he said, comes across pretty ignorant, IMO.

 

Having played football in all my teen years i fully understand what he means.. Those coaches and college coaches are absolutely brutal and you have to be born with thick skin to handle it.

In a sad thing to admit for me personally, having grown up with parents/grandparents that would say every nasty thing you can possibly say to a kid and the physical abuse that came with it as well, kind of had me prepared for the things cosches used to say, rarely about me but when you see a teammate get grilled on you feel for him.

Which is why I feel what Peterson did is much worse than what Rice did. Theyre all very bad but a kid is a kid, theyre innocent. What Rice did was after being attacked and possibly both were drunk. Not saying it wasnt bad, nor excusing it, just saying in my opinion child abuse is worse.

 

It is the verbal abuse that keeps you there.

Getting hit did not make it so my mother was beaten for years. It was the words he used that made her stay.

IMO, verbal abuse is just as bad and is more damaging overall.

 

To say that it is just as bad is one thing, but saying that "domestic violence doesn't even come close to verbal abuse" is wrong, IMO, and quite frankly, disrespectful to victims of domestic violence. It's as if he is saying they aren't suffering as much as people who are only abused verbally, which is not true at all, IMO.

 

I respectfully disagree with your assertion.

Still, I will gladly say that both of them really suck and neither should happen to anyone.

 

Agree to disagree then...

 

Imo these are football players, not judges or lawmakers. They're opinions and public statements should be treated as such. I happen to agree that verbally abusing kids is worse than any abuse an adult can take bc adults have the ability to leave or at least defend themselves. But either way let's not go putting the opines of a football player on a pedestal, those that do do it mainly so they can attack said players opine imo.

 

Agreed.

I don't think any of us would take, say a Gronkowski-type's opinion on anything of substance, seriously. So why create a hubbub around this statement by McCain?

At the end of the day, these are merely opinions... from entertainers.

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Twitter is useful for trivia. If you want to make heartfelt statements about controversial public issues perhaps writing a full length essay is a better way to go about it.

 

Why can't he just STFU? Twitter is ridiculous.

 

On no planet...

In no way....

...is a coach belittling players (especially at the pro level), even remotely, like domestic abuse.

Its not in the same ballpark, zip code, township, state or country.

His last tweet, Dolphin or not, is and always will be incredibly stupid.

 

The comparison is completely subjective. From his perspective, given what his friend went through, it's a very relevant opinion. His mistake is making the broad generalization. I can say, from m own perspective, after living in a home with both verbal and domestic abuse, that one isn't clearly worse than another (in my house), but I would never make the generalization and assume for others. Many of the people who make such a huge disparity between the two don't know what they are talking about.

 

So he ends his explanation of not making a comparison by making a comparison. Hm.

No further questions.


My two cents via iPhone.

 

I wonder if if he has any idea how many women are killed or seriously injured every year due to domestic violence.

While I can agree with him that some coaches go too far in regards to verbal abuse of players. Comparing verbal abuse by a coach to domestic abuse and stating that the verbal abuse is worse was rather idiotic on his part.

 

Assuming it's even verbal abuse at that.

 

DJ,

I am not questioning his views on verbal abuse. He has every right to express his opinion on what he has seen and even experienced in regards to this serious issue.

Yet while he may not have meant to demean domestic violence. That is exactly what he did in his last tweet.

 

You know I always respect your opinion, even when we might not agree on an issue being discussed.

Perhaps it was not his intention to demean domestic violence, but it sure appears by that last tweet that was what he did. At this time I can only go by what he tweeted. Hopefully in the future he will reconsider his last tweet and clarify exactly what his intentions were when he posted that particular tweet.

 

As someone who grew up with a verbally abusive father, I certainly understand him expressing his views on this issue.

I have zero tolerance for verbally abusive behavior.

Yet my nearly 30 years in law enforcement showed me the fatal effects of domestic abuse on far too many individuals.

Both are serious issues and my only problem with him expressing his views on verbal abuse was when he seems to diminish the impact of being physically hit during an act of domestic violence.

I can certainly forgive him for his mistaken view in this situation. I just hope he does understand that there is NEVER a justified reason for domestic abuse. It is very easy to avoid hitting by merely walking away.

 

The bottom line here is that Chris McCain is speaking out against abuse. He didn't articulate his point very well, and used a bad example of players/coaches to compare to abuse victims, but his point is understood and its one I think everyone would agree with.

Chris McCain: good intentions, bad delivery.