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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by fin13, Apr 23, 2013.
It looks like it"s a done deal according to Ian Rapoport just waiting for KC.
For some reason I don't like this. Oh well.
man...not having to draft a LT would be awesome...
I'd like to have a flop in draft position tossed into that deal as well, KC has that #1 each rd rotation so even the 6th rd would matter to our draft board.
And Jd, if it means we won't trade up with the raiders, I'm fine with it.
Is this the same report from yesterday? There were conflicting reports. He said Dolphins were ready to make the deal, but Mort said talks broke down and the Dolphins hadn't spoke to them in weeks.
How about if we trade down to SF who is looking to move to 13 or 14.
Then that would make me happy. I still would like us to draft a tackle. We need someone ready to go if Martin can't hack it or Albert develops a bad back. Our record of veteran injury prone linemen is a little shaky.
preDraft smoke screen..ENGAGED!
My dream scenario is trade for Albert (for a 2nd) trade down and gain another 2nd back, draft Eifert with mid/late first, and get pass rush/corner in 2nd
That was my first thought as well.
You're essentially trading out of the 1st round if you move back with SF. They own the 31st pick. Even if they gave us that and the 33rd, it's not nearly worth it IMO. If it's me, I only move back if it's a hand full of spots back, like St. Louis.
Same one. Article has yesterday's date.
Never gonna happen. There's a real chance Cleveland takes Eifert.
Besides, if we trade a second, we still have plenty of picks.
In his defense, he's talking "dreams", and you're talking realities (well, real chances, anyway). In my experience, pessimistic though it has been, reality always seems to be a dream-crasher.
Let the man have his dreams!
Trade down and then draft Eifert.
Maybe I am missing something but you would think a physical examination would be a requirement for a deal to go through.Of course there is still time to do that before the draft but once it starts how can you make a draft day trade without one.Important draft decisions will be made based on that trade and those decisions will be ireversible once the draft is done and if Albert fails his physical.
I dont like the timing of this trade .You would think we would get more leverage once the draft got started.
You don't know Sick. If you did, you'd join me in crushing his dreams.
whats wrong with taking eifert at 12?
We already have 11 draft picks. We need to use them to move up, not move down.
I'd be fine with moving back a few picks to have more ammo to move up later (maybe even a couple times). No reason to move that far back though.
I see no reason not to stay put at 12. For once, this year, we can actually match value with need with the players who should be available at that spot.
If we trade down, the deal had better be damn good. A starting player, a 1st round pick this year, and a 1st next year. Otherwise I don't see the value in passing on the players who would be there at 12, especially since we have two 2nd round picks.
I'm on the barb wired fence myself but boy does this open up the draft for us. That is one hell of a silver lining.
Dang u my favorite poster.
Dustin Keller, maybe?
If you can move down to say, 16 with the Rams and pick up some picks, it would allow you to get a similarly ranked player and have more ammo to move up into the end of the 1st for another player that probably won't be very much worse than anyone there at 12. If that's the route, you then still have a hand full of picks in the heart of this draft in rounds 2 and 3.
Not sure how far wr could move back and still get eifert
The bang for your buck in this draft is in rounds 2/3 and you can't fundamentally do something that's not being done. Pick 31 is in the 1st round. You wouldn't tell me pick 33 is basically in the 1st round, would you? Essentially, if my grandmother had testicles shed be my grandfather.
People we have already discussed this to death. There is NO WAY this deal gets done before the draft. Alberts agent is going to be spreading all sorts of crap about how we are going to trade for Fat Albert, so SD will get interested, and then spread crap about how SD is pulling the trigger so we will get nervous, but neither GM can afford to make this happen before the draft.
Imagine if the deal doesn't get done and KC is faced with drafting a LT when they already have a great, young, cheap LT in Stephson, and a decent, overpriced one in Alberts. They can not afford to take another. They take Dion, the jags take Geno, Raiders take Sharrif and suddenly we are at 4 and all 3 tackles are still there. It is a long shot but it could happen. At that point both SD and Ireland would be able to trade up and get ONE of the 3. There are just too many things that could happen for us to pull the trade before the draft.
It will happen during the draft, or not at all. As for me I am pulling for the "not at all". Terron Armstead > Fat Albert
It's a bad trade IMO. That's way too far to move back.
You could say that 33 is essentially a 1st round pick as well. Regardless of what you 'essentially' call those picks though, I would not want to move from the 12th pick to the end of the 1st round just to get more picks when you're already flush with picks. You simply don't have enough roster spots.
Like I said, if you're moving down a reasonable amount of picks, and plan to use a combination of currently held picks and picks acquired via a trade back, you can then use those to move back into the end of the 1st round. Yes, the "best bang for your buck" is in the 2nd/3rd rounds, but the best talent and least amount of risk still resides in round 1.
I see no reason why the Rams would trade up to our spot.
They have extra picks from the RG3 trade and who knows who they want/like/need etc. They're WR group was bad even before Gibson and Amendola walked. There's a couple reasons right there.
I thought this was reported by one of those T.V. shows.
actually, I think NFL.com reported it first. not that it matters
My friend, San Fran is your man. They got 2 twos & 2 threes. Plus that 1st two is the second pick moda****a (mean that to sound like Californicaton meaning oh yeah).
Talk to me.
just because they agreed to terms, doesn't mean they are going to seal the deal. Once the 3 tackles are taken off the board Thursday night, then Miami triggers the deal.
I :Louisiana accent: guarantee :Louisiana accent: talent at 31. Not that that should make you feel better. But if the ransom is high enough :bama accent: you gon love me boy :bama accent:
Tavon Austin. If they think the Jets want him, they could want to get ahead of them. Reportedly they really like him and they have two picks in the 1st round.
Fair enough. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
If we can get the 2 twos & 2 there's from San Fran, come on. You're looking at:
1/31, 2/2, 2/10, 2/22, 2/29, 3/12, 3/15, 3/20, 3/31 (and rest is known).
Come on. We're bringing Madden back to the days of glory.
After the 4th you can trade all the last day picks to anyone interested for next year picks.
There's only so many spots and more importantly playing time to go around. The Dolphins already have a lot of young players that need playing time. I doubt they want to add 11 players, let alone 15. And history tells us you have a better chance of the player panning out in round 1 than rounds 2 and 3.