It seems to me that Henning and Co. seem to really like the Henne rollout in tough situations. Prime example last game was the comeback by Camarillo on the 4th and 6 on the last drive.
Hey, if it works, why stop it? Well, for one, it limits the size of the field and the throwing window Henne has to work with. It is also becoming pretty predictable. And trust me, there will be some D coordinator out there with a plan to stop it. I just hope that Henne (and I think he is) is savvy enough to make the right decision....like throw away the ball.
I like the play, but I am a little concerned. I understand the unbalanced line on that side for protection, but I am more concerned about an INT. It seems as though it is almost exclusively used in situations where Miami is in dire need of making the 1st down.
I do not know if it will continue to work, but I was wondering if there is anyone here that might have some of the same concerns. Maybe someone could break it down by X's and O's and if it is a play that can be exposed?
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No worries with Henne on the move..he's special when he does it., and it will become a weapon in this offense..
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I can't say that I know what his completion percentage is when rolling out; but it seems to be a strength of his.
In fact, I'm to the point where I just expect that he's going to find an open receiver when he's on the move. -
The quick out, the deep out, perimeter stuff is outstanding...
I keep racking my brain trying to think about who in history has the trajectory of a henne pass?....its really unique. -
He needs to work on his touch a bit but that should come in time I would think
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Henning also called that play on the last drive of the game against the Jets(second game) if i recall.
Maybe they should use it more on earlier downs instead of when everyone knows it's coming.There always seems to be a DE right in Henne's passing lane every time it's called too.Deception works wonders if they can work on that a bit more in practice. -
Most here seem to think its a positive for Henne but I see it as a crutch to cover a weakness. I'm in the Boomer/ck corner and want him to become more athletically agile so he can stay in the pocket and become the QB I think we all feel he can be.:wink2:
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I've read/heard (and witnessed) that he's very accurate when on the run. So those rollout passes are higher percentage.
Also, there's an obvious correlation on when is best to call the play. It works best when there's going to be pressure up the middle or from the opposite side. I believe that this has been the case for many, if not most, of the situations when the play was called (this may even be an audible that Henne calls once he sees how the defense is going to play). Then, it becomes a very good call against that kind of defense, not only for play-calling, but it's also a play that Henne and company execute very well. -
I've never been a hug fan of those plays because they do essentially cut the field in half.
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Like most on here, it has to be used judiciously for it to be effective. Even then, there is a better than average chance that the play will be successful. I don't think that using the rollout has any bearing on Hennes' athletic development at all. It just has to be used as a tool, depending on the situation at hand. So far, the times they've used it, it's been pretty effective...Henning has a way of overusing things that work well though, so that has to be taken into account as to the success of the play in general...
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No doubt he seems to do well when on the move, but in the situations where it is a called play, I wonder how many receivers are "eligible" when it is a called play? One? Two?
It also seems to me that the side of the field of the rollout is full of traffic at times. I just hope that Miami (and Henne) is prudent when considering that play. -
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Miami has taken the "try to stop it" mentality, esp. with the Wildcat. This particular play might just be Henning saying just that: Try to stop it. I just wonder if there are any keys on the defensive side of the ball that better helps them recognize that play, and if there is anything to stop it.
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Lets just say that iam sure Chad was not Jake Long's workout partner in college..Its gonna take a few years to reshape his physique....
If he wants to be one of the best, his *** should be in that gym every day in the offseason, and not just for leadership reasons, the cat needs to move some weight..
He's gotta a very flexible release, very loose delivery, so iam sure he's cognisant of this, and has probabaly used it as an excuse for not working out seriously all his life....
I dont wanna make him brady quinn, but i do wanna get him on good routine, get rid of that pot belly, strenthen his hips and trunk, hammy's and legs, and work out his upper body, designing a routine that will build his core strenth up there, while keeping his excellent range of motion and flexabiltity....
He's got all the talent....time for the robot to train his body like one...fully focused....
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Why should we be concerned? Henne is a better thrower rolling out.
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Teams have already guessed right in previous games, blitzing to that side and disrupting the play. Lately Henning has been guessing right and it's worked most times they've run it.
As we saw in the Panthers game, if Henne gets a decent bit of blocking on that side, he can deal with a free rusher late. And the receivers will break off their routes and give him a target. If that throw to Bess would have been on the money, #15 is still running to the endzone.
We roll right multiple times each game. But no doubt we go to it in crunch time. 4th-and-6 against the Jets with the game on the line. 3rd-and-12 against the Panthers with the game on the line. 4th-and-6 against the Pats with the game on the line. Every time it worked. And every time it got 10+ yards. -
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I guess it could be worse. Culpepper was criticized for only being able to use half the field all the time! Some of his criticism targeted how he just couldn't use the whole field when reading defenses.
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I think Tampa managed to sniff it out on Henne's pick.
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Even if it does get covered Henne should just tuck it in and run. He will be able to recognize what the defense is giving him. He won't force that I don't think because that flood right roll out play would be something they practice continuously. We already have seen Henne flick the ball out of bounds...if it's not there you live to fight another day. Henne's got options and he is extremely proficient in it...it's his go to play (like stockton and malone's pick and roll) that can't let you down. -
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Well, let them recognize the rollout and come up to cover it, the Panthers did exactly that and Bess made a route adjustment and came up with a huge first down catch.
But the real gold with that situation is for the opposite side Wr to run a fly route, Henne has the arm to connect on a long pass by throwing all the way across the field and deep -
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Last drive - Henne rolled right on 3rd and long, Jags OLB dropped back to cover the sideline. Henne then ran for it, slid down short of the fisrt down marker but stayed in bounds to let the clock run. Basically Henne knows exactly what to do.Frumundah Finnatic likes this.