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Contract Restructures

Discussion in '2012 GM League Forum' started by GridIronKing34, Feb 10, 2012.

  1. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Just so you guys are aware... IF a player that was originally on your roster restructures his contract in the NFL, you can change his base salary to the new one if you have proof of the change (reliable link). For example, the Steelers recently restructured the contracts of Lawrence Timmons and LaMarr Woodley. Timmons' base salary has dropped from 2.625M to 700K and Woodley's base salary has dropped from 3.4M to 700K. Because Woodley is still on the Steelers roster in the GM League, Boik can change his salary to 700K. However because Boik traded Timmons to the Seahawks earlier this week, Timmons' salary cannot be changed.

    You can post any restructures that you find on your own team here and I will approve the change if it is reliable... so keep an eye out on your respective team's news in the NFL. We've always had this rule (since I can remember) but I just thought to bring it to your attention after seeing the Steelers two restructures.
     
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  2. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Never knew about this but its pretty cool that I just picked up another 2.7M in cap space.
     
  3. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Booooooo.
     
  4. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    So if the Eagles re-sign DeSean Jackson for a deal worth 5m a year tomorrow, I don't have to franchise him?
     
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    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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  6. Skeet84

    Skeet84 New Member

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    Boooooooooooooooooooooooo
     
  7. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    no because officially he is not on the Eagles roster when our league froze rosters, because his contract with the team expired whereas Timmons and Woodley count because they had a contract with the team.
     
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  8. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Gotcha, but still, I think it's dumb, if the rosters are frozen, the rosters are frozen.....Does that mean if Victor Cruz gets a gigantic deal the Giants would have to UP their cap # ?
     
  9. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. And if your going to change the salary for the team, why not if their traded? Makes no sense.
     
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  10. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    FTR Not being a dick, I was just bringing up legit talking points.....I know you do a **** ton Mat, so I am not trying to stir the pot.
     
  11. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    You dick!
     
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  12. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    :omg:
     
  13. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    it wouldn't be the GM League without someone trying to lawyer all the rules.

    It doesn't work when traded, because the player has his salary restructed by his original team so if he is moved before that we assume the team that gets him already knows the risks involved and wouldn't restructure the deal.
     
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  14. Fin-Omenal

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    This rule sucks ***. There, Ill be the d--k. The Buttercream gang already hates me. :cry:
     
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  15. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    right but my other point about a player getting a raise is still valid.
     
  16. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't matter what the trader thought or knows. Simple fact is if I look at Lawrence Timmons salary its not what it is in this league. If your going to change the salary, change them all. If your going to freeze the rosters. Freeze them. Restructuring their deals are moves made by the real life franchise after rosters frozen. It should not effect the salaries in here IMO.
     
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  17. Fin-Omenal

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    This reminds me of when a stipulation took CB Chris Gamble away from me...injustice injustice injustice.
     
  18. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

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    What do you mean BE? Like ...as in...you stopped at some point?
     
  19. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

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    I.Hate.This.
     
  20. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Holy whambance batman. Stop complaining. It carries the same benefit for everyone. If Eli manning restructures his deal the NYG gain cap space. If you traded Eli well then your SOL. If Timmons were listed at 700k at the time the league started he may not have been dealt. I'm out of 1.9M in cap space. Sure i got Okung but maybe i would have dealt someone else. Sucks for me.
     
  21. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    Though I guess on the whole I stand to lose about a million in cap room on this (before cuts), it seems valid enough. The trade issue, people factor in salary in their trades and I sure as **** know that's true. If someone's deal drops by more than 2MM or whatever, essentially the person who did the trading gets ****ed out of that value - and possibly wouldn't have even traded them in the first place. Rosters and FA status were frozen, yes, but as far as I can see, salaries were not. And that's what's changing.
     
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  22. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    At least Ike's new deal helps you a ton.

    Also, **** you for saying what I sorta did more eloquently. :lol:
     
  23. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The only valid point was the point sick made about contract raises as well IMO. If victor Cruz gets a raise well then does his GML salary get raised
     
  24. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    Hell, throwing out ideas maybe a work around is to trade back, or ask about a mutual trade reneg. I dunno, just tossing out ideas.
     
  25. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Wait Ike Taylor got a new deal also? I know woodley and timmons restructured...
     
  26. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    I'd say yes, but who will willingly cop to it? Or the lesser known moves go under the radar?
     
  27. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    Yeah, just happened
     
  28. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    It's been like this since I can remember (before I ran it at Finheaven). If it was one of your own players who did the restructure, you wouldn't be complaining... It's not like this is going to benefit me... my big salary guy is in his contract year.

    You all can STFU and deal with it as far as I'm concerned.
     
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  29. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Thank goodness I have a competant point man for contract negotiations. He just needs to do a better job updating his boss lol.

    The downside is that in the real NFL Pitt has probably freed up enough money now to sign Soliai from Miami as their new NT. by my count this is over 9M in cap they've freed up.
     
  30. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Not really. That was based on your own negligence.
     
  31. SICK

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    I have no problem with the trades and all that ****. But my only thing is if someone gets a raise (which might not even happen)....does the same thing hold water?
     
  32. Fin-Omenal

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    A similar "pass" was given to a rookie GM the following year. Water under the bridge as far as im concerned, but let's not pretend the buddy system doesnt apply in this league. If it bothered me that much I would just not get in it, i enjoy the political part of this league....makes me giggle.
     
  33. Nappy Roots

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    It has to. Has to go both ways.
     
  34. SICK

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    Makes you whine like a girl too. Suprised you still arent bringing up the Peppers/Franchise tag thing from like 4 years ago.......

    oh wait, post #15 of the official trade thread:

    :shifty:
     
  35. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    As an outsider here, if I recall correctly, in previous years there has been a drop dead date implicit in the cap numbers that you post. Hence my opening up a can of worms if you don't institute a date this year. I mean someone could rework their deal in April and you could have it affect the cap number here. Maybe this year you posted the cap numbers a little earlier than normal (I dont know). But if that's the case, extend the drop dead date to the start of free agency?? Just trying to help :wink2:
     
  36. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    I know you aren't.

    I understand the dislike for the rule by some... but let's be honest here... if this benefited the people complaining TODAY, they would not be saying anything.
     
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  37. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    No it doesn't. He didn't restructure his contract with his original team. You traded for a player where you knew his salary. I don't care if you don't like it because you would change your tune if it benefited you. That's the truth...
     
  38. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    Let's not beat around the bushes, you're an outsider everywhere. :lol:
     
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  39. Fin-Omenal

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    If you cant laugh at stuff like this, you should stick to a JTT thread....im a free spirit and enjoy making fun of situations. Will it cost me votes? No question, nut im a winner in my own heart and thats what matters.
     
  40. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    I think he meant if a guy gets a new deal and his base salary goes up this year.
     
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