Copyright/Fair Use Question

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GridIronKing34GridIronKing34forum_veteranOP
Jul 23, 2010, 12:09 PM

This fall I am interested in doing a documentary about fantasy football and it's uproar/impact on today's society. I would like to use small clips of top players (not the primary point of interest of said documentary) from NFL footage. However while I believe this is fair use because:

A) I am not using the footage as it was originally valued and am transforming it.

B) The footage is not the primary point of interest/topic.

Does anyone know if I am on the right track here? I do realize that the NFL is very stingy with copyright material so of course I have to attribute them. I just don't think that dealing with the NFL will be easy because they will have no sympathy for my school documentary project.

unluckylucianounluckylucianoNew Member
Jul 23, 2010, 12:26 PM

why don't you ask your adviser or professor?

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GridIronKing34GridIronKing34forum_veteran
Jul 23, 2010, 12:30 PM

"unluckyluciano wrote:

why don't you ask your adviser or professor?

School isn't in session yet... I am just "ahead of the game" so to speak.

MikeHonchoMikeHonchosubscriber
Jul 23, 2010, 12:32 PM

Cite or put in "footage curtesy of" watermarks in there?

Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.

unluckylucianounluckylucianoNew Member
Jul 23, 2010, 12:34 PM

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

School isn't in session yet... I am just "ahead of the game" so to speak.

hmmmmmmmmmmm I don't know of any professors that all book it home during the summer lol. I'm sure there has to be one at random you can ask .

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GridIronKing34GridIronKing34forum_veteran
Jul 23, 2010, 12:48 PM

"unluckyluciano wrote:

hmmmmmmmmmmm I don't know of any professors that all book it home during the summer lol. I'm sure there has to be one at random you can ask .

I thought I'd try here too... It's not something I have to know right away... :lol:

AbideN703AbideN703New Member
Jul 23, 2010, 01:40 PM

You aren't profiting off of it and I doubt anyone outside of your school would see it. It seems alright to me but as you said, I'd check with someone who has a definite answer.

jdang307jdang307subscriber
Jul 23, 2010, 04:14 PM

Four factor fair use test. If you want it to be fair use, maximize the factors.

1-the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
2-the nature of the copyrighted work;
3-the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
4-the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

1 helps you here. Plus, since dissemination of facts or info helps the public, it helps when the stuff is not fictional. Documentary for school helps.
2 is probably the most significant. The more transformative the better. In your case, I think it is very transformative.
3 is obvious. Shorter the better, and the less significant to your work even better.
4 Your small usage probably will not diminish the NFL's market at all. You're not even selling anything. Nobody looking for the NFL is going to mistake you as a replacement.

None of the above is legal advice. You're on your own. But like I said, maximize the factors in your favor. This is such a fact based analysis nobody has the answer until it goes into court and is decided. But you're on the right track.

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