I do not know if Henne could ever "excel."

A "better" offensive system would improve his play as it will do a better job of masking his shortcommings. However I do not know if he will ever be the type of qb that excels.

 

I actually don't know what to think of Henne. he shows signs of being a good QB from time to time then poof... it is all gone like a fart in the wind. I really don't get the guy at all. Having said that, I can't help but think that the offense we run is not going to be very productive no matter who is running it.

 

Great post and I agree with you 100%!

 

Well, one of the things Sparano said when he benched Henne was the system was geared more towards Pennington.

Which tells Me a few things

A: We don't coach to the talent we have, we want the talent to play the way the coach wants.
B: Henning is set in his ways and does not make changes, therefore also falls on Sparano.
C: Henne should have never started than if your staff is not willing to make changes to fit his style.

Has Henne played bad in spurts? yes, has the staff helped him much? No

So my answer would be yes, but it also maybe to late to find out with the Dolphins.

 

What system do you believe Henne could excel in?

I think the only kind would be one that forces 8 into the box regularly, because that is the only way to get the defense in to man coverage regularly. The problem is there aren't many teams in the league that force 8 into the box anymore.

Its also hard not to be predictable when the QB stares exactly where he's going to throw the ball.

 

Please tell me what system this guy can play in.

Name me any offensive coordinator currently in the league and explain to me what that guy will do differently that will make Henne a better player.

I'm serious. I'm willing to listen. There are 31 other offensive coordinators in the league. Which one will make Henne a franchise QB?

 

Ever? lol

In college Henne completed 60% of his passes, for 9715 yards, 87TD's and 37 INT's for a 133QBR. That's "excelling".

However, no one knows if he'll ever "excel" in the NFL unless he's given the chance. You don't give a sniper a knife and ask him to kill a guy from 500 yards away. And you don't take a QB like Henne and ask him to be Chad Pennington.

 

that is college dude, plenty of players excel in college and do crap in the pros. I do not count college when talking about the pros when a player has experience in the pros.

All I have seen is Henne pretty much fail in this system. A system where Delhomme played well, who is not a Pennington and is a crappy quarterback. He has stretches of playing pretty decent, however I haven't seen a quarterback handcuffed by a system. I am seeing more of a quarterback who is handcuffed by his lack of pocket awareness, touch passes and long throws.

 

1) No mobility
2) No pocket presence
3) Can't read defenses
4) Locks on to receivers
5) Panics under pressure
6) Looks completely lost
7) Indecisive to say the least
8) Doesn't know which throws require zip and which require air

 

How'd he do against the Buckeyes? 0-4 But look at those stats. Wow

 

A system that plays to his strenghts. You know, like every other QB in NFL history has done if they were to succeed.

That last sentence is just parroting and wrong and I, for one, get really sick of hearing that crap. Besides Favre in a few of his "gunslinger" type modes, name me one QB that doesn't look to where they are throwing the ball? Henne goes through his progressions very well.

 

What system? What strengths? You'll have to be a little more specific.

Yes, I get sick of seeing Henne stare down receivers. Every week.

 

You'll never get an answer. Maybe his "big arm" that is incapable of completing a pass more than 20 yards downfield.

 

LMAO! Again with that? You're point? Where the Buckeyes the better team? Yep. Is that your point. Congrats, you made it. If there is something else, please fill us in. lol...

Here...I want to play this game.

Tom Brady is 1-6 against the Broncos in his career! He SUCKS!! HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

 

Amazing!

 

The offense is vanilla because Chad henne is too stupid to understand anything else. Chad henne is the one throttling the offense, not the other way around.

 

I was posting insignificant stats..................SOUND FAMILIAR.

 

NFL Scout: Strengths: Experienced starter…played excellent competition in the Big Ten…possesses a strong arm and seems to be adapt at throwing all the routes necessary to be an NFL QB…mentally tough QB…strong upper body, so he should be able to shrug off some oncoming pass rushers…was in a moderately complex offense at Michigan, so reading defenses and adapting to the NFL should be a more smooth transition for Chad Henne than many other 2008 QB prospects…


So, you're 100% wrong. ;)

 

Off the top of my head I would say the OC from the team that just beat us Linehan would be one.

Henning is just to stale and predictable, and you heard it from players we played against over and over this year. They know the plays.

Again, I'm not saying Henne is an all-pro, but he does not get any help from Henning either.

I also think it maybe too late to find out if Henne can make it here, he will be run out of town like Ginn was (And yes, I wanted Ginn gone)

 

Yet that scouting report was completely off, so what's the difference?

Henne might not be stupid, but he isn't a great QB.

 

Actually you just proved how inexact scouting can be. I can't believe you just quoted something from a scout 4 yrs ago, who might be unemployed by now for good reason.

 

What routes or play calls did Scott Linehan run eysterday that we haven't run at some point in the last two years?

I would venture a guess that there aren't any.

Perhaps Linehan is more agressive in his play calls, but that wouldn't necessarily make Henne a better QB. In fact, being more agressive might simply lead to more errors and interceptions, which is probably a big reason why we aren't more agressive in the first place.

And Linehan didn't appear to be such a genius when a broken down culpepper was running his system last year.

 

It is amazing that people who watch the game still believe this crap.

I mean, even the Head Coach of the Miami Dolphins says Henne doesn't "stare down" his receiver.

I think when he first started he would, however, he goes through his progressions now. I think a lot of fans don't understand what they are looking at and instead will just parrot someone who they think does.

 

Of course. But YOU know...don't ya'? HHAHAAHAHAHAHAHH!!

 

Nice backtrack.

If I were you I'd probably do the same. However, I would never post such a thing in the first place.

 

Yes, the same coach that benched Henne for a QB with a busted shoulder.

 

Yesterday was why I like Linehan, it wasn't his offense, he changed it up because he had a QB with a bum finger.

And you answered your second question, a broken down Culpepper whom hasn't been good in years.

Look at the offense he runs with healthy QB's, takes his chances long, mixes up routes, moves Calvin Johnson around to get him open.

Look what he did here in 2005 with Gus Frerotte whom many compare with Henne.

We don't do any of that.

Again, I'm not saying Henne is an all-pro, but he gets no help from Henning either.

 

I KNOW that Henne's in over his head at this level and it sounds like thats the consensus, and not by just fans.

 

Wait a minute, your the stat king. The guy who doesn't realize that 10 2-3 yard out patterns a game will have a positive effect on completion %..............Wake up.

 

Nope...

 

You're not making any sense. And you obviously don't understand any of my posts...so why do you read them?

 

[mod] Stay on topic[/mod]

 

The same coach that just said Henne played well yesterday. The same coach who chose Henne as the starting QB for the Miami Dolphins this season.

Again, it's not like a starting QB has never been benched before. You have no idea, and neaither do I, as to why Sparano did what he did.

Once more... YOU, and those like you, THINK you know things that you couldn't possibly know. I clearly write that I DON'T KNOW what Henne is. Taht's the difference here.

 

[mod] Same goes for you [/mod]

 

I always assumed Henne was benched because of the financial crisis. Never actually had anything to do with his performance.

 

Agree with these. And it is a huge moronic move on the coaching staff's part to approach things this way. Like trying to fit a guy into another guys uniform even though they are totally different sizes, then blaming everyone else that the uniform doesn;t fit.

Just stupid.

Henning said during the year he had no intention of changing a thing whether henne or Pennington was in there.

Stupid.

And Sparano lacked the leadership, balls or sense to correct it.

So I'm fine with firing Sparano too at this point. Sad, as I liked him. Past tense.

 

I'll tell you what, come back opening day 2011 when Henne isn't the starting QB and then you'll have your answer.

 

lol...Good one.

But you're missing the point. Henne may have been playing poorly, however, his benching may have had more to do with getting him to focus than Sparano thinking he didn't have what it took to be a successful NFL QB.

 

Sure thing, Nostradamus!