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Creating a keeper league

Discussion in 'Fantasy Football' started by Desides, Aug 13, 2010.

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  1. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Five slots left, assuming Aqua/Travis is going to sign up like he promised. :shifty:
     
  2. RickyBobby

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    Im interested but can u pleas einform me on what a keeper leaugue is??
     
  3. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    A keeper league is exactly what it sounds like. Rather than being a one-time, one year affair, in a keeper league you keep playing in the same league year after year, and can designate a certain amount of players from last year's roster to keep for next year's roster, usually at the cost of a draft pick based on what round the player was originally drafted in. For example, if you drafted Ray Rice in the 10th round in his rookie year, and you decided to keep him, then the next year you'd lose your 9th round pick. If you keep him again, then the year after that you'd lose your 8th round pick, then your 7th, and on and on. (Some leagues don't charge draft picks for keepers, but this league will, to maintain competitive balance and add an element of strategy to the keeper selections.)

    Basically, a keeper league is halfway between a regular fantasy league that expires at the end of the season, and a dynasty league where you keep the same roster from year to year like the real NFL.

    Since this league is just starting, no one has any keepers, so just for this year it'll be a normal 12 team PPR league. Next August the league will re-open with (hopefully!) the same 12 participants from this year, and they'll be able to designate up to either 3 or 4 players (unsure yet) to bring back for their 2011 roster.

    So if you want to join up, great! But keep in mind you're making a commitment to participate seriously beyond just 2010. :hi5: Of course, you could always turn your team over to someone if you don't want to come back, but hopefully that won't be the case. :up:
     
  4. 2k5

    2k5 I miss Ted Ginn Jr.

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    I'm doing some rankings. When it has the projected 2010 score and the 2009 score is that computed with our league scoring system?

    Also, do you guys not want to do IDP's?
     
  5. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Looks that way, though a couple of players have different 2009 point totals than my Excel calculations come up with. For example, they give Aaron Rodgers 402.96 points in 2009, but I have him at 396.96 in 2009. However, they have Peyton Manning at 344.70 points in 2009, and I have that as well. Likewise, they have Chris Johnson at 392.90 in 2009, while I have him at 390.9. But Adrian Peterson and Maurice Jones-Drew seem right on.

    Could be a bug, could just be a discrepancy between what NFL.com lists on the players' stats pages and what they entered in their fantasy football backend, who knows. The difference isn't very big, so you can go ahead and take their 2009 totals and projected 2010 totals as being based on the league rules.

    Just for comparison's sake, my Excel formula for RBs is [(rush yards / 10) + (rush TDs * 6) + (receptions) + (rec yards / 10) + (rec TDs * 6) - (fumbles lost * 2)]. For QBs, it's [(pass yards / 25) + (pass TDs * 6) - (INTs * 2) + (rush yards / 10) + (rush TDs * 6) - (fumbles lost * 2)]. I'm guessing the discrepancies with Rodgers and Johnson are due to the turnovers not being calculated correctly, either on my end or NFL.com's end.

    I'm not a big fan of IDPs, just because defensive statistics (like tackles) are so subjective as to who gets credited for what. Too random for fantasy football, IMO. But that's just one owner's opinion. I'll enable IDPs if a majority wants it that way.
     
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  6. 2k5

    2k5 I miss Ted Ginn Jr.

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    Thanks. It doesn't really make a difference to me, we could exclude tackles from the scoring though and just do like sacks and turnovers if we wanted.
     
  7. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    That's pretty much the point of DSTs, though. :lol:
     
  8. 2k5

    2k5 I miss Ted Ginn Jr.

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    Found someone from another forum, he's signed up.
     
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  9. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering who the new owner was. Figured it was RickyC.

    Any details on your friend?
     
  10. 2k5

    2k5 I miss Ted Ginn Jr.

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    Not really, just that he has a good reputation on the other forum (nfldc)
     
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  11. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Works for me. Glad to have him.
     
  12. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    I'm pretty sure one of my buddies will join. Good guy, will be very active. Only problem is he's a Giants fan.:lol:
     
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  13. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    Still got slots?
     
  14. 2k5

    2k5 I miss Ted Ginn Jr.

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    Should be 3/4 left. :up:
     
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  15. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Four left, plenty of room. :up:
     
  16. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    How much? When is the draft?
     
  17. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    You mean, what's the cost? It's a free league, no entry fee. The draft is Sunday, September 5 at 10 PM EST, two weeks from today.
     
  18. Butters

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    I am gonna sign up right now.
     
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  19. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Filling up fast. Hurrah. :hi5:

    Looks like NFL.com is having some server trouble at the moment, since I can't access the league, and others are complaining in the NFL.com forums about the same thing. Guess today is a busy draft day.
     
  20. SICK

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    ugh! The draft is so far :( i cant wait! gunna be a fun league.
     
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  21. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Okay, if you guys are having problems with seeing the league, log out of NFL.com and then log back in. Should fix the issue.

    Yes, yes it is. :hi5:

    The reason for having the draft on the 5th is to be as close to the start of the regular season as possible while still being convenient for everyone. That way you minimize the risk of drafting a guy who winds up getting hurt in the preseason, and everyone can attend the live draft. I'd really like to hold the draft on the day before the Thursday opener, but it's tough to get everyone to attend a draft in the middle of the week.
     
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  22. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    oh no, its a perfect time. Just far away.....
     
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  23. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    Do you need my e-mail addy?

    Also, didn't know I was going to get to play against Sick in this. Should make it extra fun. You're going down buddy.
     
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  24. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Nope. Just create an NFL.com account if you don't have one and follow the sign-up link in the OP. Enter the league ID and password and you're gold.
     
  25. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    Sweet. I'll do that later tonight.
     
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  26. Mainge

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    Anymore spots open D? I'd be interested.

    EDIT: I see you had some open spots so I went ahead and joined. Hope you don't mind.
     
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  27. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    One slot left. :hi5:
     
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  28. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Our 12th and final owner has joined. Thanks for the interest, guys.

    Let's make this a great league. :hi5:
     
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  29. 2k5

    2k5 I miss Ted Ginn Jr.

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    Woot!
     
  30. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    When will we know draft order? Please don't say 30 minutes prior to draft.
     
  31. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    It's currently set to randomize the order, and yes, that happens 30 minutes before draft time.

    As the commissioner, I can create a customized draft order, but since the league is just starting I feel like going with a random draft order to kick things off is the fairest way to go. Future drafts will have a custom order: the six teams that don't make the playoffs will be assigned slots 1-6 by random lottery, and the six teams that do make the playoffs will be ranked 7-12 by playoff performance, win-loss record, and then a coin flip (which you'll have to just trust the results of :lol:).

    If people feel strongly enough about it, I can use the random lottery to assign slots 1-12 before the draft. I don't see a difference between using a site to randomly generate a draft order versus letting NFL.com randomly generate the order in terms of fairness.

    Edit: Also, not everyone in the league posts on the forum, so for questions and suggestions like this, it's best to use the league message board just to make sure everyone sees it.
     
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  32. 2k5

    2k5 I miss Ted Ginn Jr.

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    Yeah, you could just put all the names in on random.org and then set the results as the order so people can plan for their draft slot.

    Also, what time is the draft central time?
     
  33. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    That was the plan. Alright, I guess it won't hurt anything. I'll post the draft order in the league message board soon.

    9 PM Central.
     
  34. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    this is going to be my "top" league this year....meaning the one i care about the most :lol:

    pretty excited for it!
     
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  35. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    That's a shame. Cause you're not gonna win. :no:
     
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  36. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    I love this. are you basing this on my draft picks that we havent made yet? and even if i DID make picks....are you basing this "**** talk" on statistics that are yet to be made?

    but ill roll with it......i may not win. but i will beat you :tongue2:
     
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  37. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Gentlemen.

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  38. SICK

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    so does it stay this order everytime? or does it go

    round 1
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    round 2
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    ??
     
  39. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    It's a snake draft. The first round goes 1 through 12. The second round goes 12 through 1. The third round goes 1 through 12. And on and on until the draft is over.

    Basically, if you pick at 1 and 12, you get to make back to back picks. But it's balanced out by the fact that you have to wait the longest to get your turn. Pretty standard for fantasy drafts.
     
  40. SICK

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    ok cool. so i pick 8th, then 4th. not bad. cant wait!
     
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