Wherever you may be you probably just heard my face hit palm.

 

I like Crowder.

However, how well would you like the guy who cut you or took your money?

Also, how many offensive players do you think Crowder thinks is "good" or has "impressed him"? I'd guess other than long, not many. This entire offense sucked last year. However, that doesn't mean every player sucked.

 

why? Crowder did not say anything earth shatteringly new, Henne has something to prove to his teammates and the fans of the Dolphins, this is news?

 

Don't really see that as going off on Ireland. But to be honest, none of this really surprises me, and seems to follow along with everything we've heard from players or former players.

 

Here's the Q&A on Chad Henne.

Question: "Can Chad Henne get the job done" (Big Dog's words, asked him point blank)

"As of what I've seen so far? No. I played with him a couple years ... He really hasn't proven anything to me when I played with him and now being on this side, looking down on him as a fan, he's not impressing me, either. He has all the tangibles, I want to say, arm strength ... his feet work funny, but he can make some good throws, but the intangibles, the winning the game, wanting to have everything on his shoulders, like the Bradys and like the Mannings, and wanting to be down by five with a minute left on the 20-yard-line, let's see what happens, he doesn't have that in his heart yet, and I think it will be hard for him to win, but like I said the proof's in the pudding, so if he comes out this year and going crazy, I'll have my foot in my mouth, but, if I was a betting man, (laughing) I wouldn't bet on him going crazy."

 

He didn't really "go off" on Jeff Ireland. But, he did make it pretty clear they don't like each other. He openly compared their situation to that of Jason Taylor and Bill Parcells, and said JT is back because Parcells is gone...and he doesn't think he could be back with the Dolphins unless Ireland is gone.

 

Daily dosage of sour grapes..... Crowder is a puke. He runs his mouth about others after being cut.

 

I was disappointed when I read the article. He didn't go off at all.

 

He didn't say anything that even remotely sounds like sour grapes.

Well he did say he didn't like getting fined. '

 

He also said he saw Henne in the preseason game and I think that was what he was referring to when he said that as a fan he's not impressing him either. He suggested that maybe something could click in the new offense for him but said it's almost like an oxymoron to say he'll do better in a brand new offense, emphasizing that when the offense is brand new you basically do worse until everyone gets on board with it. That's probably part of why he said he if were a betting man he wouldn't bet on Henne doing well this year.

He was another person that noticed the defense look like it was slipping in that Falcons game, but he said he has confidence in Karlos and Yeremiah to get that tightened up and get everyone playing right.

He had some really glowing things to say about Jared Odrick. Said he has all the strength and speed you could want but his motor is what really impressed him the most while they were here together, amazing motor. Said he could come on the field and bring that "young, dumb happiness" and make a big impact as a rotational player.

 

He's such garbage, Dolphins are immediately better without him, imho

 

It's funny how some people will ignore the context or meaning of statements.

I bet if Crowder was asked if he thinks the ENTIRE offense could get it done this year he'd say no.

At least Crowder isn't spouting his opinion as fact... like some others around here.

Crowder isn't giving us rainbows and butterflies about Henne, he's saying that over the last two years Henne hasn't shown the "intangibles" of a Manning or Brady. However, intangibles can be taken from a person or learned by a person. I think Henning took Henne's from him last season. It's fairly obvious. Just look at Henne in 2009 or college compared to 2010. He looks like a different QB altogether.

 

If it were so obvious, why would Crowder say that he doesn't think he can get the job done this year?

 

Crowder if a funny, pretty intelligent guy. Hope he gets a good job in broadcasting cause I would definitely listen to him. Not a great LB, but I won't say he ever mailed it in, so I can't have any dislike for him.

 

Hope Crowder saved money from selling jerseys in college, he's gunna need the liquidity.

 

That's his opinion. However, and again unlike some around here, he doesn't claim his opinion as fact as is shown by the words I bolded. Crowder doesn't believe Henne will get much better, however, he also says that there is always the chance that he will when he said "the proof is in the pudding", "so far", etc.

In other words, Crowder has an opinion and he makes sure that everyone realizes that it's just his opinion and not fact.

 

Exactly. Whether someone says something good or bad, if Henne doesnt have the mental toughness to shut that out and go out and perform, then he wont be starting for very long. Players on defense last year played well enough for us to go far, our offense and qb and o coord let them down. They saw how many times the work by the defense went for not as an int set the d up with backs against the wall.

Now Channing an emotional leader is cut for what? and Henne is getting all this backing from everyone including Ireland. So to him as a human being, he says they give me the shaft because I didnt do this or that yet I made other plays gave my heart and sould and yet I am cut and he is kept and named a starter without competition as if the defense was the issue and specifically Crowder. No conspiracy theories or ulterior motives, but could be some resentment, mixed with true feelings. Not saying Channing really loves Chad.

Either way to me it doesnt matter, how chad plays is up to chad.

 

Ive always been fine with Channing...I thought he was underrated...especially in run D.

I also have no problem with what Channing said about Henne. Look...being honest has been Channing's MO from the beginning. He may have mouthed off...but he didnt make stuff up. Henne has not shown the desire to have the ball in his hands when its on the line....Im a Henne believer an even I have criticized him for that. I want a QB who is willing to say gimme the F'n ball and lets go win a damned game. I posted an old Marino video off of you tube...where they discussed exactly that. And...dont give me the rah...rah...some players arent like that argument. Tom Brady isnt a rah rah type of guy....but hes a cold blooded defense killer. Anyone doubt Brady doesnt want the ball in his hands when its on the line.....thats the attitude Henne needs to have....and believe me...if Crowder is saying that....other players are thinking it as well. Henne has to prove to them he wants to lead this team.....they wont believe in him until he does that.

 

I agree. Henne needs to go out and sling the ball with confidence and forget every pass he's thrown as soon as it leaves his hand and concentrate on the next one and forgot about the fans, coaches, and media. Just play foothball. Even Crowder said he's got the tangibles...he's just been so mind ****ed the last two seasons that he's lost confidence.

 

Found this video....I think its good....Time to Rise Up....

[video=youtube_share;gMJpR0WJhfc]http://youtu.be/gMJpR0WJhfc[/video]

I just wish the guy would rub some damned dirt in his hands......and become the QB this team needs to go all the way.

 

But you know what....thats an excuse. And...in the end...if he doesnt have an NFL career...he can not bemoan Dan Henning. Yes..I agree...last season Henning was horrible. But Henne doesnt have that excuse any more. Now its his. Sparano is giving him the ball. PROVE IT. Prove Crowder is wrong.

 

That play where Marshall sissied it....and an Int resulted......

Henne should have gotten right in his face....Marino would have. And you know what....Marshall would have respected Henne more for it.

 

".......I gave you the ball and you choked!" "I read blitz" "BullSh*t you got scared" "I read blitz" "Winners want the ball when the games on the line" -From replacements

I think the biggest thing from henne is tentitiveness, he dances too much and locks on. He needs to settle, step up and fire, be decisive and want it. I think he can, I think he is starting to but it has to show, no more well he can, it has to stop being can and become does.

 

-I saw that play differently, Beast made the proper read, Chung was jumping the route, so he broke it off, Henne however was throwing to that spot no matter what, now the Ravens game...that is Marshall's fault.

I guess this means TP's "why is the Henne discussion.." is a bit obsolete now?

Interestingly enough, the last time a player who just retired, Tiki Barber, ripped his old team's Qb, Eli Manning, they won the SB.

 

[video=youtube;tstkmqSxbMM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tstkmqSxbMM[/video]

Chad Henne has it in him.....watch how he reacts in this game against Florida. Wheres THAT fire....?

 

If you listen to the interview it's nowhere near as bad as the clips and headlines will make it sound. He thinks the same thing we do. Henne hasn't gotten it done, YET.

Can't blame him for not liking Ireland. The man is a weasel.

 

Seems the crowd for the most part doesn't seem to have a problem with Crowder's assessment of Henne.

Wait until Pro Football Talk gets hold of the interview though.

And you know they will.

I expect the crowd to turn after that. :)

 

Funny how you completely made up your own context for the comments! The context is pretty clear based on the full transcript provided by CK.

 

I totally disagree with the part in bold! There are a lot of smart individuals on this site, and yes, I include you but to keep throwing jabs at him is wrong imo

 

I can see the headlines now.

"Former Dolphins linebacker RIPS Henne"

Panties will be bunched.

 

No offense, but this is garbage. Tom Brady is 0-3 in his last 3 playoff games, with losses to the Giants, Jets, and Ravens. He failed to up more than 14 points all 3 times. He wasn't killing sh!t, he was getting his *** handed to him by good defenses with solid running games and average-ish QB's. The same kind of teams that Ireland's trying to build in Miami.

I've always liked Crowder, but more as a personality than a player and he's saying the obvious: Chad Henne has yet to prove anything in the NFL. No kidding. But if you listen to some of our resident experts they'd have you to believe that Henne is a proven failure.

 

Good, I'm glad he was fined, he talked better than he played. Regarding the second quote, I could replace heene with his name "''Crowder has not impressed him in the two years hes been playing, and wouldn't bet on him becoming better''

I'm not sorry to see him gone.

 

Yeah, Tom Brady sucks. I mean he was only 14-2 in the playoffs prior to the last three seasons.

And one of his last 3 playoff losses was still in the Super Bowl.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/game_query.cgi?qb=BradTo00&yr=post

Wake me when Chad Henne starts one playoff game, let alone goes 14-2 in his first 16.

 

Here you go

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...r-says-it-will-be-hard-for-chad-henne-to-win/

 

Yup, I knew that would be coming. Florio's got a thing for Crowder. He actually doesn't like him at all but when Channing says something, chances are Florio's going to post it. And I knew that. That's why I noted with amusement that it's one thing for all of us to calmly digest what Crowder said and there seemed to be a lot of so what, Henne has to go out there and shut his critics up type of sentiment. But soon as Florio gets ahold of it and it becomes a national thing, there's a circling of the wagons effect and now I expect the tone of reaction to change for people to be spitting fire at Crowder for saying these things.

That's all I was saying.