Cutler/Plummer Article
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anlgpNew MemberOPhttp://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/11510371
So what's to like? This: He was 40-18 as a starter. All the guy did was win.
He took the Broncos to the playoffs in 2003. He did it again in 2004. He had them in the 2005 AFC Championship Game. Yet he was gone two seasons later, shuffled off to Tampa Bay to make way for Cutler, the second coming of John Elway. Only, he's not. Cutler isn't even the second coming of Jake Plummer, and, no, I don't care that he throws a fastball like Randy Johnson or that his right arm can launch space shuttles.
I want someone who can win, and Jay Cutler is 17-20 as a starter, failing to reach the playoffs in his NFL career... Plummer knew how to win; Cutler knows how to throw a pretty pass. I know which I'd rather have.
Found it by looking at this article: http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagles/Crowell_visits_Bills_about_return.html which debates a "Donovan McNabb for Jay Cutler" theory... which is a whole other debate in itself.
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Desidesforum_veteranI hate articles like these that place winning and losing solely on one player's shoulders. It's like the "all Vince Young does is win" argument again.
Last I checked, Denver's defense was one of the worst in the league while their offense was one of the best.
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anlgpNew Member"Desides wrote:
I hate articles like these that place winning and losing solely on one player's shoulders. It's like the "all Vince Young does is win" argument again.
Last I checked, Denver's defense was one of the worst in the league while their offense was one of the best.
I understand where you're coming from but think of it this way.
It's that many times that when it came down to it Plummer was able to pull the trigger and get wins when he had to do it.
What about Cutler?
Pilots get paid lots of money not only to fly planes but to execute a safe landing if it is necessary. Cutler should not only get paid money to be a QB but to be able to take the games upon his shoulders if the D doesn't step up and do their jobs.
I agree he could use more help out there in Denver but he should be able to win more for being a "franchise QB".
"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl
Desidesforum_veteran"anlgp wrote:
It's that many times that when it came down to it Plummer was able to pull the trigger and get wins when he had to do it.
What about Cutler?
Plummer was never clutch, top flight, elite or any other sort of high-praise adjective we apply to certain players. He was merely okay most of the time, frustrating at others. Cutler originally took over the starting job because Plummer kept making mistakes at the worst time. He was costing his team games, not winning them.
Again: Denver's offense with Cutler was the #2 best offense in the NFL last season. This was with a rookie receiver on one side, a fourth round pick on the other, and a stable of running backs who kept getting season-ending injuries every week.
Denver's problem is its defense, not its offense, and not Jay Cutler, whatever you think of him.
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Rocky RaccoonmoderatorWhatever. Jay Cutler is a very good quarterback IMO. Don't blame their crappy defense on him. That's the main reason he's 17-20.
Roman529New MemberI've watched every "heir apparent to John Elway" come through Denver and Jake Plummer was far better than Cutler or Griese. I just think Plummer realized there was a lot more to life than football after his best friend Pat Tillman chose the Army over football, and paid the ultimate price. Cutler throws one bad pass and then he either sulks or he gets mad and then compounds his mistakes even more. Cutler is like Jeff George.....fantastic arm but he doesn't have the mental toughness to be a winner.
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