Agreed. No more excuses.

 

If you think he's gotta go, you have to at least provide the name of the guy who you think can come in and do better. Otherwise you're just whining.

 

So you don't even know if there's someone out there who could do a better job? And you still want to cut Carpenter for what, spite?

 

Relax! It was a 53 yarder lol!

 

The Bengals kicker missed a 41 yard FG after not missing all season. Should the Bengals cut him too?

 

Not only that Miami doesn't have the room to take the salary cap hit from Carpenter. I believe he signed a 4 year $8 million deal. So you'd have to eat 2 years of signing bonus + cap to date.....plus find room for another kickers salary.

 

It confuses me how many people think there are just a bunch of FA kickers sitting on their couches who can walk in and start booming 50+ yard kicks every time.

 

go cut him in Madden if it makes you feel better

 

It was a 53 yard FG, not like he missed a 25 yard field goal or an extra point. If we want to work out kickers fine or replace him in the offseason fine. However it's ridiculous to think we should just cut him and sign someone off the street.

 

I would have punted.

 

I'm about to blow some minds here....

Does anyone think that if there were some magic kicker sitting at home who hits 50+ yard kicks with ease....that he would actually be sitting at home. If there was someone better....wouldn't he likely be kicking here or somewhere else aready?
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It confuses me how some people are going to try to use the "name someone else out there" turtle defense when carp needs to gtfo. I don't study FA kickers, but that doesn't mean he doesn't need to hit the road any less.

 

Do we need to replace him in the off-season if he doesn't improve and we can find someone better, yes. Do we need to cut him and bring in someone with lesser talent off the streets just to cut him? No. And what's the odds that street FA comes in and can make 45+ yard field goals more consistently? We're not talking about a guy hooking XPs and missing 20 or 30 yard FGs. We're talking about long FGs the kind that if you can make you're already on an NFL team. So yes, I'm pushing you to name someone out there who can do it better because I don't think you can. And if you can't, then you don't cut Carpenter. It's a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

 

The past two games his misses have come from beyond 50 yards I believe... I don't think cutting him would be a good idea.

 

Yeah, I've had enough of the guy. His consistent inconsistency beyond 40 yards is now pathetic. I don't trust the guy to make 35 yarders at this point. Who's out their who's better? Well, almost anyone considering Carp's numbers this season. Kickers are streaky. Year in and out they come and go. Time for this one to go.

 

1. Ryan Longwell
2. John Kasay
3. Josh Brown
4. Neil Rackers
5. Graham Gano
6. Olindo Mare
7. Dave Rayner
8. David Buehler
9. Danny Hrapmann
10. Garrett Lindholm

 

Why wouldn't you not trust him to make a 35 yarder when he hasn't demonstrated that he can't?

 

Carpenter should of been replaced in the preseason IMHO.

I get the money issue and I also get that we had bigger holes to fill. I will say this much though, I saw this coming from a long way off. When we can, we need to find a better kicker. Who knows he may turn things around in the mean time but from what I have seen, he isnt the clutch guy with icewater in his veins that he was billed as being.

 

I was being expressive. My point is, he's not reliable and I'm tired of the misses and the holes he's put this team in. He's obviously not that good anymore, for one reason or the next.

 

My first vote in the survivor thread
http://www.thephins.com/forums/showthread.php?70669-Dolphin-Survivor-2012&p=1795186#post1795186

Im only bringing this up because it was back in July. Carpenter has been a disappointment. Im not saying cut him instantly but to not acknowledge his shortcomings is equally wrong.

 

I'm on the fence with carpenter. It's not like he's missing chip shots.

For the sake of argument, though, Ryan Longwell is sitting at home eating Cheeto's at the moment.

He's a historically elite kicker, but his last season was mediocre. He also kicked in a dome.

Another guy, who I think never really got a chance, is Rhys Lloyd. He has a hell of a leg; up there with Janikowski. If I recall, Carolina actually carried two kickers and used Lloyd as a kickoff specialist, and he was automatic touchback 100% of the time. I'm confused on why they never let him try field goals. He has potential.

I'm just saying...but yeah, we should stick with Carpenter for now :yes:

 

Think the Packers are going to cut Crosby after today's game? :wink2:

 

Depends on whether he does it for the next 8 games like carp has already done.

 

I know he missed the 53 yarder but his neither of his kicks sliced this time. I guess they corrected whatever he was doing poorly the previous two games.

PS- UF has a hell of a kicker. Maybe we could try to draft him year if nothing else works out.

 

It would be worth looking into what kickers are available, but you don't cut Carp until you feel you have a guy that can be expected to do a better job. If he struggles through the next three games then you think about making a change just on the hope the new guy can do a better.

 

except he doesn't have a weak leg. He's kicking them plenty far enough. He's just hooking them.

 

True and I did adress that point in a later post. He did have a leg strength issue but he has seemed to of corrected it. There was a time before the rules change that he struggled to kick it through the back of the endzone on kickoffs

 

There was a time before the rule change that a lot of kickers had trouble kicking it through the back of the end zone.

 

Philbin should just go to the chart....anything over 45yd---------------NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pretty simple

 

LOL I get it, your gonna go down defending Carpenter till the bitter end. Have fun with that.

I was only pointing out that Carpenter has been a concern for me prior to this season. I hope he turns things around but as of right now he is not clutch.

 

Pretty sh*ty for someone making around $3 Million.

 

I'll defend him as long as people are leveling unfair criticism against him. So far you've said he lacks leg strength which is untrue and blamed him for not being able to kick the ball out of the end zone which wasn't something a lot of kickers could do anyway. If you want to say he's not clutch that's fine. I don't know that's wholly true as he's only missing 45+ yard field goals and those have a low percentage of success anyway, but I wont argue with it as I have no proof to the contrary. Your other 2 points are complete fallacy though.

 

With all due respect

I say he isnt clutch because of last years kicks and I might of acctually started noticing it two seasons ago but I would have to go back and look on that. He lets himself get ratteled and he struggles to get his mojo back once he is rattled. That is my observation of him. I bring up his legth strength because even though he has seemed to improve it I wonder if the reason he is struggling with his accuracy on these long FGs is because it takes every bit of his leg to get it there and he loses concentration on aiming his kicks.

 

Make the kicks