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Dan Campbell's future with Dolphins remains in limbo

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by jim1, Jan 10, 2016.

  1. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    But there was one awkward moment when Gase was asked about the status of his predecessor: former Miami interim head coach Dan Campbell. Gase turned his head towards owner Stephen Ross to answer the question, as though he wanted nothing to do with it at that moment.

    Would keeping Campbell around be an asset or a link to the past that Gase is trying to move away from? This is an important question Gase must determine as he begins to implement his program.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/miami-dolph...mpbells-future-with-dolphins-remains-in-limbo

    ----- Dan is in a tight spot- in some ways his bid for the permanent head coaching job was an all or nothing proposition. My guess is that Gase will want to start fresh, not risk a fractured locker room or have to worry about the players being loyal to Campbell, not Gase. If Campbell is retained he'd have a job, but would remain in the scene of his ultimate disappointment. But if he's fired, he's not an offensive play calling genius who will find a job as an offensive coordinator quickly or at all for that matter, my best guess at least. He'll become a coaching nomad looking for another assistant job coaching Tight Ends. Unless some other team makes him an assistant offensive coach, again unlikely. In some ways it's a no win situation, I feel bad for the guy. He flew too close to the sun, got burned, and now is free falling back to earth. No wonder the Dolphins said they'd give him a couple of days before they contact him again, he must be utterly devastated right now.
     
  2. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member

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    A lot of this depends upon Campbell himself, information we're - or at least I'm - not privy to. Generally, though, I'd say Campbell moving on would be best for all parties. Campbell, evidently won the hearts of the squad but to have that loyalty and then a demotion to a newer, younger guy, won't sit well with most. Just the nature of it.

    If Gase keeps him, and Campbell wants to stay, it's because Gase really, really wants him, and not some sympathetic or political move.
     
  3. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Which is why I think that Campbell will be let go.
     
  4. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I have no sympathy for Campbell. If he wants to be a HC he should spend time studying the X's and O's of the game, because that is what will give him another chance as a Head Coach. I'm not saying he needs to be a master, however if he spends his time studying -HOW- to be a better coach, he will get there.
     
  5. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    Campbell has a big reason to stay with the Miami Dolphins, he can take a shortcut to a higher position while building his resume and upgrading his X's & O's knowledge under Gase.

    Campbell's best chance of getting a promotion right now is with the Dolphins. They might make him an assistant HC or a Philbinesque non-playcalling offensive coordinator. If he moves to another team he will likely go back to TEs coach and will have to build up trust and respect from the ground up in the new organization... no team will take a chance on him at a higher position as of right now.
     
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  6. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    The team shouldn't have even told anyone that Campbell finished in second place, just makes the pain worse.
     
  7. firedan

    firedan Well-Known Member

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    No way Camp.bell stays.
    The new regime can't have the ghost of coach past there.
     
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  8. gilv13

    gilv13 Well-Known Member

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    Especially the fact, in reality, that he was never a serious candidate in the actual search.
     
  9. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    The thing is this- is Adam Gase a good leader of men? Will his coordinators wear those hats, and he's the resident offensive genius? Are we better with that or with Campbell, a Mike Tomlin type of leader who has coordinators to handle the technical aspects of football, the x's and o's?

    Who knows. I like the Gase hire, but as a leader he's an unproven commodity- no head coaching experience ever if I heard that right. Ross loved Sparano, he loved the immortal Cam Cameron, he loved (gulp) Joe Philbin. Adam Gase is by all accounts a sharp dude and a hard worker. Will he make a good head coach? Who knows.
     
  10. tirty8

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    This will be one of the first telling moments for Gase. It is no secret amongst coaches that you may only get one shot, and you may only get one year. I want a coach who brings in his one guys and wants to do it his way. I could not see why any coach would want the remains from a previous regime. We will find out soon enough if Gase is a yes-man or not.

    DC's mere presence is a recipe for a divided locker room. It is nothing against DC. He showed promise and will get a job elsewhere. For all parties involved, it is best for him to leave.

    Rizzi is the only coach I would consider keeping.
     
  11. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Since Gase is suppose to have total control over everything which happens outside and that includes the hiring of all the coaches. I can't imagine it would be wise for him to retain Campbell.
    This would only set up a situation where the players would be divided in their loyalty and this is never good for any team. The players showed how they felt about Campbell after the win over the Patriots when they starting chanting his name in the locker room.

    As much as I admire Campbell for stepping in and leading the team over the final 12 weeks. I think it is time for him to go elsewhere and serve under more experienced coaches. His time under Sparano and Philbin obviously didn't prepare him to be a permanent head coach in the NFL at this time.
     
  12. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    At first I was all for keeping Campbell, but I'm starting to lean the other way. I think the bolded is a possibility even if a remote one, and these types of things you do not want to risk at all, especially with a new HC who just came on the team.
     
  13. Deus ex dolphin

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    If it was a veteran coach, like Shanny or Coughlin, it would be relatively easy for Dan to accept working/learning under them. But to have to do that under a rookie head coach? Awkward. My guess is Ross is being loyal again and pushing to keep Dan around in some capacity, but that would come at the expense of Gase getting established with the players and gaining their respect.
     
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  14. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    The only way it could work is if Gase is convinced that DC will be a champion for Gase, and DC would have to be the one to initiate that conversation, and would obviously have to be committed to it mentally as well, but if he would carry the Gase banner, as it were, it would forestall any splitting of the locker room, the "if you're for me than you're for Gase" mentality could even create a tighter knit group.

    That conversation would have to take place behind closed doors, and it would be a bond of it's own between those 2 men, highly unlikely, but both men have the right attitude for it to even be possible, however unlikely.
     
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  15. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Given how bitterly disappointed Campbell was after not getting the job, yeah I'd have to say highly unlikely. But you never know. Campbell is going to have to get out of his funk and realize that if he doesn't end up as an assistant with Miami he might very well end up coaching college ball again.
     
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  16. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    Zactly, this is his best chance at the best job, and being an ex-football player, of the type he was, he does have the ability to come around quickly, no matter the situation, after tough losses, being traded, down big in games, he always gave everything he had, and always "bought into" whatever situation, so if he comes to the conclusion that "Gase is my ticket", then I believe it could happen.
     
  17. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Yeah, but I could see Campbell thinking before the decision was made and Gase chosen - I'm a leader of men, they love me and play hard for me. I'll get an offensive whiz like Gase and a solid defensive coordinator and guide the ship. lead the men. Gase is an offensive wizard and a Quarterback guru, is he a leader of men?
     
  18. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    Which is exactly why Gase might entertain the idea, "I have the plan, an my rottweiler OC/aHC will make sure the plan is carried out", it could be a very symbiotic relationship, but DC would have to come to that conclusion of course.

    Like I said, it's highly unlikely, but possible.
     
  19. MikeHoncho

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    My best guess based on recent history, is that Ross has no ****ing clue what he's doing, regardless of what his press releases and media statements will tell you.
     

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