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Deflate-gate - Patriots

Discussion in 'AFC East Rivals' started by Galant, Jan 19, 2015.

  1. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member

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    According to Bob Kravtiz and covered in this story, the NFL will be investigating whether the Patriots used partially deflated footballs in order to ensure an easier grip on the ball in the rain. Apparently could possibly result in lost draft picks or a fine. "The source told Kravitz that officials took a ball out of play at one point and weighed it. "



    [FONT=Arial, sans-serif]League source tells me nfl is investigating possibility the pats deflated footballs. [/FONT]http://now.wthr.com/1Egj7sr [FONT=Arial, sans-serif]

    [/FONT]No idea who Kravitz is but if this is true then forget fine and picks, disqualify the cheaters.
     
  2. Maple Phin

    Maple Phin New Member

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    I swear it's always something with that team.
     
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  3. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=- Club Member

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    Are you ****ing kidding me?
     
  4. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic 30 years and counting Club Member

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    am I missing something. If they deflate the balls to get a grip advantage, then doesn't Luck and the Colts gain the same advantage using the same footballs?
     
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  5. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    those plays were illegal and deceptive.


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  6. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    lol

     
  7. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Each team uses their own balls.
     
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  8. Maple Phin

    Maple Phin New Member

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    http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/5_2013_Ball.pdf

    I don't know if the ball attendant keeps them on him or not, but there's plenty of chances for the Cheatriots to deflate the ball if they're allowed to supply so many for themselves.
     
  9. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/5_2013_Ball.pdf



    either way, the refs touch the ball on every play.
     
  10. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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  11. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    im guessing the speculation came from the exchange of footballs between the kickoff ball and regulsr ball?
     
  12. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    I'm thinking its just because someone is peanut butter and jealous.
     
  13. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    over there
    This is funny. It's never the Patriots fault for being caught and labeled a cheater.
    It's always a conspiracy from everyone else to make them look bad. Just ask a Pats fan. :whistling:
     
  14. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    I guess none of these things give the Pats an advantage and they keep doing them because... because...
     
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  15. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    each team has 36 balls during each game. the balls are kept in a large bin that has a cover on it . 12 of the balls arre marked with a "K" and sealed in boxes. They are used for the kicking game. The balls are available to be checked before the game by one of the ref's. They don't check them all technically for obvious reasons but can if they desire to. The ball thing is so routine that most of the time one of the kicking balls is checked by the ref with a pressure guage. They are supposed to have 13 psi of air. But 95% of the time the ball has been in a box sealed with a special sticker. This is why most of the time we see the kicker pushing and prodding the ball before he kicks off -----he just got it and it was kust taken out of the box from the factory. There is only one factory in the world and it is in Ohio. They make about 700,000 balls a year and employ about 130 people.

    There was a ball(1) that the patriots center complained was soft. The ref had placed the ball in play after receiving it from the ball boy. The ref called for a replacement ball, had the Pats rehuddle and replaced the ball. The ball was weighed as a standard procedure. Weighing the ball does not tell how much air pressure is in it.

    Not sure why this is a thing at all
     
  16. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral Staff Member

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    Tom always lets someone touch his balls...
     
  17. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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  18. MikeHoncho

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    The big assumption here is that the patriots organization operates under the same rules that govern three 31 other franchises.
     
  19. MikeHoncho

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    For fun. Obviously.
     
  20. McLovin

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  21. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member

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    Whatever the result, there's apparently enough in this situation to warrant an NFL investigation. Will be interesting to see what sparked all this off. Could be that maybe it was discovered a referee, or group of refs, got lax on monitoring the footballs. The rules on paper mean nothing if they aren't rigorously maintained and enforced.
     
  22. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    It was initiated after Jackson picked Brady off and he came to the sideline and had the equipment manager take a look at it who then has Pagano and the GM look at it.....GM then called a league official who then had the ref pull the ball at the start of the 3rd qtr.....

    Whether they did it or not, can Pats fans stop calling EEI or trying to convince me that because it was cold out (it wasn't it was 47) and WINDY....that was the reason for the deflation.....do you understand how ****ing dumb that sounds?
     
  23. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member

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    2011 - Brady states that he likes deflated footballs, which happens after Gronk spikes them.

    LINK

    Armando with the find.
     
  24. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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  25. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    yea i saw that. "he lifted her out with one hand" ~Mass Statie.


    I've also seen less bloated men dredged out of rivers.
     
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  26. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    You ever see his wife? she isn't as we say "body of a model".....imagine them banging? Holy **** I wanna watch it....
     
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  27. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    like two beach balls bouncing off each other.


    ****, i hope this doesn't get back to him, he almost ripped Ted Johnson apart for calling her ugly.
     
  28. MikeHoncho

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    Way to derail the thread guy.

    /unzips
     
  29. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    yes
     
  30. McLovin

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    now it's being said that in an interview, Aaron Rodgers over inflates his football because he likes them tight.

    this was aired during the Packers-Patriots game back in November.

    apparently the Vikings and Panthers got caught "warming their balls" :shifty: a few weeks ago as well, which is illegal.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/minnesota-v...of-game-ball-incident-during-panthers-vikings

    it's getting laughable now.
     
  31. King Felix

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    I CanT FeeL MY FacE
    *unzips*
     
  32. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Notice this NEVER happens to other teams but the Patriots all the time. With other teams it may be "They lined up illegally, they hold, they throw illegal blocks" but with NE its always something serious.

    Sorry but smoke....meet fire.
     
  33. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    lol, it happend with Vikings Vs Carolina and Aaron Rodgers just admitted that he over inflates them and the refs take the air out.
     
  34. Not So Fast

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    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    BUSTED!

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  36. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member

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    This really saddens and annoys me. This is utter crap. The Pats were good enough to win without this, now the league has to decide whether to let cheaters win or kick them out. Fines are utterly irrelevant here. Even draft picks are irrelevant. If cheating can get you to a Superbowl with just a slap on the wrist then who wouldn't try it?

    There's only one fair recourse here, IMO, and that's disqualification. I know it won't happen, and that's what saddens me, but it should. I genuinely believe that would be the right course of action. It would suck for any and all players and coaches who had nothing to do with it but that's on the heads of the guilty. Bottom line is that the Patriots cheated, they tilted the table, made the playing field uneven, and since there's no way to know what effect was had, exactly, or how things might have turned out, their win has to be ruled invalid. Colts vs. Seahawks is the only way that this should work out.
     
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  37. MikeHoncho

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    Gooddell doesn't have the balls

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  38. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    He does.

    They've just been deflated.
     
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  39. MikeHoncho

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    [video=youtube;1ytCEuuW2_A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A[/video]

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