Despite offseason progress this organization continues to shoot itself in the foot

The things is, the renovations were supposed to happen as far as they were concerned. They got blindsided. There hope was to make over the team, the look and the stadium all in one year. Its ambitious, but not necessarily wrong.

 

Despite offseason progress this organization continues to shoot itself in the f

Just compartmentalize. Sucks having this stuff be an issue, but need to try and separate it from the football side. This isn't necessarily a Ross and Dee issue only, it affects a lot of people in South Florida. Hopefully it gets resolved soon, so we don't have a cloud over the franchise for a number of years n

 

Despite offseason progress this organization continues to shoot itself in the f

How would it make a difference? Should they not have tried?

Spree? They are at the salary floor. They didn't really spend beyond what they're required to.

 

Ross seems like a good owner but he does have a tin ear sometimes.

 

The vision of rebranding down to the stadium was absolutely the right idea imo, but I think Rush has a point, stress the word think, because I'm still trying to figure sh$& out, but to react in such a doom and gloom way doesn't seem healthy for the culture and relationship between fan and team, however, I'm not sure if the tactics are'nt on purpose to achieve some sort of leverage.

I cannot blame them though for having their vision cut short..the renovations really would of helped the culture rebuilding.

 

at the end of the day, the product on the field is the one that counts, so you are

exaggerate a little​

 

You're overreacting.

They didn't count anything. By your logic, no one should make any major move unless its guaranteed to work.

They were bold, they were ambitious. Just because something doesn't work, doesn't mean the people behind the attempt were inept or it was wrong to try.

One guy they thought they had in their corner, betrayed what they thought, that's the kink in the line and short of holding his loved ones hostage there's really no other way to fix that.

 

Timeout. Why does everyone think these are new threats by the NFL or Ross just made up these renovations hisself? We have had threads and article going back to 2009 on these major renovations. Goodell didn't just start talking about this in 2012. This has been coming for some time. This is just where the rubber is starting to meet the road.

 

Lets not overreact to the talk about the phins future being bleak. Its part of the process, they're playing hardball. You should know exactly why Dee said those things.

 

this exactly. It's been discussed for quite some time.

 

Could we of not handled the rejection a bit better in order to protect the team from a disheartened fanbase.?, or is the reaction that we all have seen, thought out?

 

On this very board people have posted extensively about proposed or discussed stadium renovations for years. The NFL itself spoke about the Dolphins hosting a Super Bowl in Miami. After the 2006 game it was talked about. We haven't hosted one since then and aren't about to now. If we don't get Super Bowl L, that will make a full decade of being shut out from the game. We had two in a four/five year period before XLI and three in 11 years counting it.

 

In Dallas they spent 1.2 billion on a new stadium because Jones knows that unless he makes the game experience special, sooner or later the attendance will go down cause Hidef tv and sound is a big competitor, just stay home with friends and watch all 3 games.
This is important for the team and the stadium experience is as important as the quality of the team, Ross already has made a significant investment in the team.

 

The NFL is pretty restrictive in whom they allow purchase a team. Either way, Ross should and will sell to whomever the NFL approves and is offering the most money.

 

bingo!!!

And that venue has lured in other big time events that would of not been held there if it wasn't built..

 

will this hurt the "team" this season?

 

I think the reaction you're seeing is more of them responding to being what they believe is a betrayal. I think they were blindsided by the events that just unfolded.

 

Nah. There's plenty of time for the FO smooth over their reaction with the fans between now and the start of the season. Once reports come of training camp of Wallace catching bombs and Jordan blowing up plays, we won't even be thinking about this.


Except for DJ, that is.

 

Hopefully not. All it takes is a few rumors though, and next thing you know Armando is asking Joe Philbin if it is a distraction.

 

I don't think the fans are the ones to worry about. Its the media. They likely will want to press this as a story.

 

shutup Richard..

 

Which only becomes a problem once the fans buy into it.

And they can do plenty of PR between now and then to fix this, plus, like I said, it will only take hold with the fans if there's nothing else to focus on.

 

I think Ross needs to make a statement no?

 

PFT taking the lead no doubt. This just feels like Florio's avenue.

 

why not?

 

I think its a little bit of all 3. Again, Ross has spent plenty of money to ensure this vote went to the people. I'm sure quite a bit found its way to Weatherford's election coffers...wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

Basically Ross spent millions of dollars on a race car, after he signs on the dotted line, he finds out the car doesn't have an engine, transmission, steering wheel, brakes, gas pedal, gas tank or wheels. We are witnessing his reaction to that.

Again, I think the local government should have just given him every tax break possible instead of handing over money, but this is the way our government works....people are able to buy and sell votes.

 

What good could come of it Luck?, serious question?

 

what good would it do to take a public issue public?

 

It could create more publicity if they try again. Only this time, the media will keep reminding people of what happened and how "good" the deal was for the public, etc.

 

So basically to spark debate between the people of south Florida and this politician, with the angle being he just stole money and economic development away from your city?

What about the theory that the NFL was just bluffin really, tried to help the owner get some partial funds, and now that it didnt work, once the new venues are rewarded ( which was gonna happen anyway) were right back in the rotation?

 

Right now, sure. There's going to be a lot of time between now and then, however.

Step 1 is create the controversy. Step 2 will be damage control where they reframe the events of what happened as Weatherford going back on his word and denying the people a voice, blah, blah, blah.

Ask yourself who has the better chance and resources to spin this: Ross or Weatherford?