Not sure. I still know the Offense isnt scoring as much as it should be. Using Daniel Thomas on those short runs instead of QB sneaks, Clay who can pound it or Miller was a mistake imo. That again is on Sherman.

 

Probably not, no.

 

Was a really nice win,but still too early to tell if the staff made strides. There were still questionable calls that were made also. And ,lets not be blind to the fact that we AGAIN had a lead fade away. Bengals have a good team but this seems to be our M.O. for the last few weeks. Must be corrected before I`m sold.

 

Granted there was a big push from Cinci's Dline, but I hate when I see Thomas hesitate on those short runs. IMO, when he does that he has 0 chance of getting the yard. His only chance is to run as fast and as hard as he can and try to slide between linemen, even if there is no hole. Once he hesitates, that little hole that may have been there is totally closed now.

 

no. wake bailed them out. heads would have rolled if we lost.

 

Wow...there he is.

 

lol...did ya miss me!

 

No heads would have rolled if they had lost. At least not in management or the coaching staff. Keep the drama on the side.

 

defense made big plays but they were atrocious on 3rd down. we are better at stopping 3rd and one then we are at 3rd and 10+. its infuriating.

offense couldnt stay on the field. some bs calls are to blame for some.

 

I have a hard time believing that over the long haul Sherman can resist the temptation to stick his hand in the candy jar.

 

The NFL is a crazy game, the ebb and flows are unexplainable sometimes.I can't answer your question accurate schematically speaking, too many variables, I do feel like what were seeing is a game of inches and emotions showing itself.

 

No heads would have rolled.

 

I don't think so, the defense was never the problem, they won a game which any defense this talented can do from time to time. Our offense is still bad, I'm not sure we win last night without the Safety, I think it would have ended in a tie.

 

With respect to the ground game, it seemed like the coaching staff had to have their faces rubbed in their own mess before they realized they shouldn't go in the house. That doesn't give me great hope that they're going to quickly anticipate and rectify the myriad other issues that can and will come up during an NFL season.

 

I like that they did some things differently, that they tried the extra lineman and that they ran the ball more. The D did not play lights out and Wake did not carry the D. Overall team effort win. An attitude of not quitting until they won. Great effort, good play (great by some).

 

There are a few things that give me pause, but it should be mentioned that the way Miami NEEDS to be playing and the way Joe Philbin WANTS them to play are two totally different things right now. That is why you have seen the hesitation towards being a run oriented team. Joe wants the team to be able to pass, get chunk yards, and run the zone runs. What this team needs to be right now is a grind it out team that minimizes mistakes and has a ball control passing game. Typical WCO stuff, though Joe wants the shot gun, spread em out, throw it down the field style that we saw in Green Bay.

This is what gives me pause. Using Will Yeatman as a tight end last night worked out very well. Dion Sims has been overmatched in pass pro and in run blocking all year. Why not try this sooner instead of when you have to because your tight end is hurt? It is almost like they do something, struggle with it, and instead of making changes to see what will work, they wait till they absolutely have to do something and then realize, "Hey, this worked."

 

This is my biggest criticism with the coaching staff right now. They stubbornly do things they way they want them to be done instead of adjusting to what they can actually do with the pieces at hand. Then you hear them complain about execution. Of course execution is lacking - you're pounding peg where it won't go.

 

We definitely missed a chance when Lamar Miller fumbled, and we sort of laid an egg after Cam Wake's strip early, which resulted in a missed FG. However, we did have a 93-yard drive, we ran for 142 yards in the first half, and had an answer when the Bengals took the lead 20-17 on a magnificent Tannehill-led drive. I think the fumble and the fact that we returned an INT 97-yards sandwiched in between two monstrous drives that ate up the whole third quarter and got the offense out of rhythm need to be accounted for last night.

But for the most part, Tannehill stayed on his feet, and he didn't turn the ball over. He wasn't at his sharpest, but he was money at certain times in the game. Obviously, the last drive in regulation and the play to Wallace in OT that drew the PI penalty, but he also hit Wallace between the hashes that gave Wallace a chance to run after the catch. And Lamar Miller looks pretty good. For a Thursday game, on short prep, I'll take that output from the offense (minue the Miller fumble) if the defense is going to put up 10+ points.

Really, I thought that was Sherman's best 60-minute game-call in a while. I really liked our offensive plan for the first half in New England, but that only lasted a half. While there are always a couple head-scratchers, I thought this was a game to build off of going into the Bucs game the Monday after next.

 

That Sherman sure is inconsistent. I don't think they did turn the corner. I'm sure the coaching staff heard it all this week. They had to get
the run game going.

 

Last night that lockeroom overcame its coaching to eke out a win, imo.

 

I will say using an extra O-Lineman worked well at 1st. That was a plus. Also Egnew. He was used as a Fullback. That was a good call. Egnog is slowly getting reps and to think he was a scrub not that long ago. Couldnt block apparently. Well cudos to the kid. He's gone away, trained hard, worked on his blocking and he's showing up. Im liking that alot.

 

They did a good job offensively for the most part. But Mike Sherman just cannot keep his demons at bay for an entire game. We had a 3rd and 1 late and he throws out of the shotgun. Later still, we have 3rd and a foot and we can't be bothered for a QB sneak.

While those are just two plays, they were critical plays that came with the game on the line. Isn't that a big part of what players are judged on? How they perform in the clutch.

When the bullets are flying, you find out what a guy is made of. Sherman still hasn't shown me that he can be counted on to take the proper approach.

I want to see them not be victimized by the opposition's halftime adjustments. Happens to often, I want to see rectification over an extended period.

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As for Egnew, that kid has come a long way. Consider all the criticism he got last year. Not only was he a hopelessly lost cause, you had former players declaring he didn't have an NFL body. He was too soft. The worst in a long line of TE failures out of Missouri.

Now Egnew's making his bones as a 6-5 fullback. Think about that for a second. That's a guy that's worked his *** off. And he's really become a Charles Clay type from a versatility standpoint.

All told, I think that says a lot about the kind of coach Dan Campbell is. Neither of those guys were inspiring confidence after last season. Now they are both core members of the offense. So while Dion Sims is struggling to get on the field, it's conceivable we see a nice leap in Year 2.

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Yeah before we heap praise on the offense, they scored 13 points. And only scored one field goal off how many turnovers? That has got to change if you want to keep winning. With a 17-10 lead they go: 3 passes, 1 run to the outside. Punt. 17-17: 3 passes, 1 run to the outside. Punt. Even though running inside was working wonders. And weren't both of those outside run with Daniel Thomas, the weaker of our 2 RB's? It nearly killed them again.

They could fire Mike Sherman for all I care, part of me wants them to. Ravens fired Cam Cameron during last season and then went on to the Super Bowl.

Blowing all these leads is actually saying to me that the team has enough talent to at least go to the playoffs, but the coaching is not what it should be. Its an issue that plagued the 2002 & 2003 Dolphins. They had the talent (except at QB) to at least go to the Super Bowl. Couldn't even make the playoffs because they choked away a tie for the #1 seed to missing the playoffs completely in just 2-3 weeks (2002 losing to last place Minn & blowing a lead against NE with like 3 minutes left) and then losing to a terrible team (Houston) in 2003 which killed them in the end. And you can blame coaching for those two disasters.

 

Well said Muck and nicely put. To think the kid wasnt even suited up in his 1st yr. Bust did the rounds on here. He could be our Keller next season. Don't want to expect too much from him but he's made alot of the haters silent. Getting these reps at FB and TE could be a blessing down the road.

 

Interesting

 

not sure any corner was turned, but as a fan I really, really hope so.

 

I still believe this staff views success on a longer view than just this year and I think that shows itself as not making drastic personnel changes at the first sign of trouble.

I think McKinnie, for example, was a move to placate the owner, but overall I don't think this staff is fond of band-aids. Time will tell if they are right or wrong, but if I'm right about their approach, then its refreshing considering we've been in panic mode since Shula's last year.

 

We aren't the only ones with NFL players and NFL coaches. Everything isn't going to work and every once in a while it's useful to give credit to the opponent.

 

I would say no but Lamar Miller did multiple times.... D Thomas not so much.

 

I don't like how we seem to have no answer for adjustments teams make at halftime. Not a good sign for the coaching staff. I mean we aren't the first team to get schooled by New England but Buffalo and Cincy came out in the 2nd half and outplayed us, if Dalton didn't turn the ball over like a rookie we would have been schooled again in the 2nd half. This is usually a pretty strong indicator that the coaching staff isn't that good. We seem to gameplan well but we turn the ball over a lot which is another bad indicator for a coaching staff....anyway if we make the playoffs then Philibin is a genius...if not he's probably a goner along with the front office.

 

Are you talking literally? Like Lamar Miller was able to run to the outside and turn the corner?

 

I think we lose without the safety. Look at the play. You have Rashad JOnes 20 arguing with the safety about the play. He brushes him off and blitzes along with Grimes. They realize something is wrong and Grimes breaks out of the blitz and covers no one leaving 82 wide open. Big time missed assisgment there. The play starts at the 3:08 mark.

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I didn't see anything last night that made me think the coaching staff.... especially the OC has turned any corner.
They got outcoached again in a second half and made zero adjustments to counteract.

Those shortcomings were overcome and we won the game on a couple of special plays by very talented defensive players.

 

on here ? lol.....good joke, every dolphins player must make every play at his position or he sucks....this is how a lot of people look at the dolphins, when you review the first few pages of the game thread the other night....wow....if i had something to say in here...some of them would be gone for good.